作者EZ78 (EZ78)
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标题[外絮] Sam Vecenie的选秀报告--Keaton Wagler
时间Mon Jun 22 20:35:29 2026
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今天轮到咱们伊利诺的Keaton Wagler
Overview
Height: 6 ft. 5 in.
Weight: 188 lbs.
Wingspan: 6 ft. 6 1/4 in.
Standing reach: 8 ft. 4 in.
Birthday: Feb. 3, 2007
Age: 19.4
Hometown: Shawnee, Kan.
总览
身高:6尺5寸
体重:188磅
臂展:6尺6.25寸
站立摸高:8尺4寸
生日:2007/2/3
年龄:19.4岁
家乡:Shawnee, KS
Analysis分析
I fall in love with players such as Wagler. Players who can dribble, pass,
shoot and process the game quickly are tough to pass up for me. Wagler is a
terrific bet to play both on and off the ball in an era when the NBA demands
those skills from its perimeter players. He drills over 38 percent of his
pull-up 3s and catch-and-shoot 3s, making him a serious floor-spacing threat.
His vision is superb and his handle is tight and slithery despite playing
upright. He’s an elite decision-maker with an excellent feel for the game.
This is the kind of player who thrives in today’s NBA, and he’s already
played in an NBA-style scheme with NBA-level spacing at Illinois.
我爱Wagler这种球员。可以运球、传球、投篮且可以快速解读比赛的球员对我来说很难错
过。Wagler是一个极佳的赌注,因为他能够打持球也能打无球,而这正是现代NBA对外围球
员最重视的能力。他持球三分与无球命中率都超过38%,这使他使他成为一个空间威胁。他
的视野非常出色且虽然运球重心较高但依然紧密且灵活。他是一名顶级决策者且有出色的
比赛感觉。这正是当今NBA最容易成功的球员类型,且他在Illinois就已经身处NBA等级的
空间环境并打着NBA风格的球。
There aren’t many scenarios in which Wagler crashes out of the league and
fails, because it’s hard to do so when you can shoot, pass and handle at
this level. But to reach his All-Star upside, Wagler needs to get stronger. He
’s totally fearless on his drives and seems to have great basketball
character. But he needs to get more physical to maintain the advantages he
creates in ball screens and become a consistent on-ball threat. He’ll also
need strength to defend more consistently than what he showed at Illinois
this year. It’s going to take some time.
Wagler几乎不存在太多失败并迅速离开联盟的情境,因为当你可以用这种水准可投可传还
可运的时候要彻底失败相当困难。但如果他要达到全明星等级,Wagler必须变得更壮。他
切入的时候无所畏惧且看起来拥有很好的篮球特质。但他必须加强对抗性来保持他在挡拆
中取得的优势并成为更加稳定的持球威胁。同时,他也需要力量来让他的防守比在大学时
更加稳定。这需要一些时间。
This is the biggest surprise one-and-done draft pick in the entire time I’ve
been scouting. Wagler was elite this season at Illinois despite his lack of
pedigree. He also led the No. 1 offense in the country. This is a potential
All-Star guard if things break right with his physical development. But even
if he’s always a bit too skinny, I still think teams should bet on him.
他可能是我整个球探生涯中最令人意外的一位One and Done新秀。Wagler在几乎没有大学
前背景的情况下,在Illinois打出了菁英的表现。而且他还是全国排名第一进攻体系的领
导者。如果他的身体发展能够朝理想方向成长,那麽他具备成为全明星後卫的潜力。但即
使他太过削瘦,我仍然认为球队应该要愿意押注在他身上。
Strengths 优势
-Great size for an NBA combo guard who can play both on and off the ball. Came
in at 6 feet 5 with a 6-foot-6.25 wingspan at the combine. Will have no
problem swapping between playing on and off ball at that size and should
provide flexible positional defensive play depending on what works best for
the team that selects him.
以持球无球兼备的NBA双能卫来说很好的身材。联合试训测出身高6尺5寸臂展6尺6.25寸。
以这样的尺寸来说,他在持球与无球角色之间切换不会有任何问题,也能根据选中他的球
队需求,在防守端提供位置上的潜在弹性。
-Very coordinated, balanced athlete. Not very explosive, but maintains his
balance at odd angles while also doing a good job of playing off two feet and
changing speeds. Despite not being strong through his body yet, he can
maintain his balance through contact and get into tight areas of the court.
Very shifty and slithery in the paint. This is a huge part of why he had
success after shifting to point guard for Illinois.
他是一名协调性极佳且平衡感出色的运动员。他爆发力不算太好,但能在各种奇怪的角度
下保持平衡同时还擅长用变速及双脚打球。即使身体不算强壮,他仍然能在碰撞保持平衡
并挤入狭窄的空间。他在禁区内的移动十分灵巧且滑顺。这也是为甚麽他在Illinois转打
控卫取得成功的很大因素。
-Tremendous feel for the game. Sure-footed. Makes good decisions, times his
cuts and relocations off the ball well. Makes decisions very quickly. Rarely
seems to hold onto the ball too long when he sees an advantage available. Has
an innate understanding of where the advantage is on the court and can
execute off that. The ultimate selfless player. He’s all about what makes
the most sense for the team to maintain an advantage.
对比赛感觉极为出色。脚步稳健。优良的决策能力,无球空切与重新跑位的时机非常好。
做决策的速度很快。当他发现优势时很少会黏球太久。他似乎天生就知道球场上的优势在
哪然後能够立刻执行。他是个终极无私的球员。他关心的永远是怎麽让团队保持优势。
-There aren’t many skill-based aspects where he’s deficient right now. He's
a terrific ballhandler, a good shooter, an improving finisher on the interior
and an excellent passer. That combination of skills is hard to find for
someone this young, and the fact that he combines them all is what makes him
so hard to guard.
现阶段,他没太多技术面上的缺陷。他是个出色的运球者、好的射手、进步中的内线终结
者及优秀的传球者。对一名如此年轻的球员来说,这些技巧的组合很少见,而这也造就他
为何很难防守。
-Wagler’s skill starts with the threat of his jumper. He uses it better than
any player in the draft class, and maybe better than anyone in the last few
draft classes as a ballhandler. He’s a big-time shooter both off the catch
and in pull-up situations, which allows him to change speeds and get
defenders off-balance. He was one of the few players in the country to make
at least 38 percent of his 3s both in pull-up situations and off the catch,
along with Darius Acuff Jr. Has great touch, and made 80 percent of his free
throws this year, too.
Wagler的技能首先是他跳投的威胁性。他运用得比本届所有球员都还要好,甚至作为持球
者比过去几届的新秀都还要好。他无论接球还是持球投篮都是高水准的射手,这帮助他可
以变速并让防守者失去平衡。他与Darius Acuff Jr.是全国少数无论持球还是接球三分命
中率都至少38%以上的球员之一。他手感出色,他今年的罚球命中率也高达80%。
-Two important skills make him an incredibly high-level shooter. It starts
with his base. Because Wagler constantly plays off two feet, he’s always
looking to catch and fire from 3. If it’s a pull-up, he’s also great at
setting his feet underneath him and getting on balance. Wagler also has a
very quick release. His shooting pocket is low, but he gets the shot off very
quickly and has deep range. As a catch-and-shoot player this year, Wagler
drilled 40.8 percent of his 3s and is always ready to fire. He’s also very
sharp off the offensive glass as a relocator, always seeming to find space to
get an open shot for himself.
他有两项关键能力造就他是如此出色的射手。首先是他的底座。因为Wagler稳定的用运用
双脚打球,他永远都在寻找接球三分的机会。如果是持球三分,他也在将双脚调整到理想
位置及保持平衡的这件事上做得很优秀。虽然他的出手位置偏低,但他可以快速且从长距
离出手。本季作为接球射手,他的三分命中率达到40.8%,而且几乎随时都准备好出手。他
在球队抢到进攻篮板时的重新跑位也相当精炼,看起来永远都能替自己找到空档。
-Wagler also turned into a monster pull-up shooter. Because he is constantly
on balance, he’s a threat to score from all three levels. Out top, he can
dribble into pull-up jumpers both going to his left and to his right. His
quick release and excellent balance come into play here, on top of his
ability to get defenders off-balance to separate with his handle. His
favorite move is the simultaneous jab right, crossover left step-back and he
gets defenders with it at least once per game.
Wagler也变成了怪物级的持球射手。因为他永远都保持平衡,他在哪里都是得分威胁。在
弧顶,他能够往左或往右运球後直接急停跳投。他的快速出手及出色的平衡在这里发挥了
影响力,再加上让防守者失去平衡的运球能力,使他很难防守。他最喜欢的招牌动作是朝
右边Jab Step接下来向左变向运球後撤,然後他场均可能都可以用这招骗到防守者一次。
-Because of that threat from inside of 30 feet, defenders have to play up on
his shot, which allows him to get into the teeth of the defense with a crafty
handle. Plays at a very awkward cadence that’s hard to defend. He’s
herky-jerky with his handle, constantly changing speeds with inside-out
dribbles and hesitations. He uses the hesitation dribble so well. Seems to
hang onto it until the last possible split second before either driving or
firing from 3. Can use those hang dribbles to get into high-level crossovers.
Because of his pull-up shooting, defenders often bite on those hesitation
dribbles. Also loves to go behind the back on his drives because of how
quickly he can shift and stop on a dime.
由於他在接近30尺范围内都具备投射威胁,防守者不得不提前上前压迫,这也让他可以用
他狡诘的运球切到防守的深处。他的节奏非常特别让他难以被防守。运球风格带有强烈的
顿挫感,持续用Inside-Out运球及悬浮球来不断变速。他使用悬浮球的技术炉火纯青。他
总是把球停留到最後一瞬间才决定要切入还是直接投三分。他可以运用这些运球在接到一
些高级的变相运球。由於他的急停投篮威胁极大,防守者往往会对这些悬浮球做出反应。
此外,他在切入时也喜欢背後运球,因为他可以快速地停下来。
-Superb in ball screens. Plays at a great tempo and pace. Comes off his
screens from his bigs tightly to gain an advantage, then is excellent at
maintaining that advantage despite his lack of strength. Can keep offensive
players on his hip and force the big to help up on him in drop coverage. Also
consistently makes good decisions when teams blitz him and generally shows
that he knows how to put the ball where it needs to go. He is excellent at
rejecting ball screens and timing up when bigs and ballhandlers are vacating
the lane to create an open driving angle.
他拥有顶级挡拆。他有出色的节奏控制。利用队友掩护时,他会非常贴近掩护者来取得优
势,之後即使力量不足,也能持续维持优势。他可以让防守球员卡在他的屁股後面并逼迫
Drop的长人得上提来访守他。他也能持续在对他的夹击中做出好的决策并把球送到该去的
位置。他也擅长使用拒绝掩护并抓准长人离开禁区露出路径的时机创造突破角度。
-Great at finding seams and creases as a driver to get to the rim. Has no fear
as a driver. Willing to absorb contact. Also drives in straight lines to get
to the rim as opposed to taking rounded angles or avoiding contact. Always
seems to get to the basket. Averaged over three shots at the rim this season
in half-court settings, per Synergy, after taking over as the team’s lead
ballhandler.
作为切入者,他很擅长找到前往篮筐的缝隙。他做为切入者相当无惧。愿意吸收碰撞。而
且他通常采取直线突破,而非绕大圈或刻意闪避身体接触。看起来永远都能找到方法接近
篮框。根据Synergy数据,自从接任球队的主持球後,他在半场进攻中平均每场能完成超过
3次篮下出手。
-Was an effective finisher at the rim given how many of his shots were
self-created. Made 56 percent of his attempts at the rim in half-court
settings after Dec. 1. Does a great job manipulating the ball in the air and
adjusting around rim protectors. Very much a below-the-rim finisher, but
finds his way into tight creases and maneuvers around to create shots at the
basket with tremendous footwork. Seems to have strong ankles and terrific
balance to get himself into awkward positions, maintain his coordination and
then go up to finish.
考量到他的出手大部分都是自己创造的,他做为篮下终结者很有影响力。他在12/1之後,
半场进攻的情况下篮下命中率56%。他很擅长在半空中操纵球的位置然後调整避开护框者。
虽然他是个地板型的篮下终结者,但他总能凭藉优异脚步在狭小空间中找到终结机会。他
看起来有强壮的脚踝及出色的平衡来让他在奇怪的姿势下维持协调性然後完成出手。
-Wagler’s also an excellent passer. Averaged five assists in conference play
this year because he consistently can draw defenders on the interior and then
make high-level kickout reads to his teammates. Played in an excellent
five-out style at Illinois and consistently sprayed the ball out quickly with
decisiveness. Has great vision to find teammates in the dunker spot or out
beyond the 3-point line.
Wagler也是个出色的传球守。在本季的联盟比赛中,因为他能如此稳定的吸引内线防守者
然後作出高水准的向外传球,他场均5助攻。在Illinois打着优秀的五外打法并能总是快速
且果断地把球传出去。他有优秀的事也让他可以找到在Dunker Spot或是三分线的队友。
-Consistently takes what the defense gives him. If they put two players on the
ball, he attacks with a quick pass over the top to the short roller or
pick-and-pop big. If a team is in drop, he’s excellent at maintaining his
advantage and finding players in the corner, on the wing or throwing a lob.
他总是能处理防守给他的选项。如果你包夹他,他会块传给短挡拆的顺下者或是外拆的长
人。如果对手采取沉退,他能维持突破优势并找到底角及侧翼的队友或直接空抛。
-Rarely turns the ball over for how much he handles it. Averaged only 2.1
turnovers per game in conference play as a point guard and posted a 2.5-to-1
assist-to-turnover ratio as a freshman. A sharp decision-maker who you can
rely upon to do the right thing.
以他的持球量来说,他很少失误。他在联盟赛做为控卫时场均仅2.1次失误并以新鲜人的身
分维持2.5:1的助攻失误比。是一名精明且可靠会做正确事情的决策者。
-Off the ball, he’s smart in his movements. Cuts with effort and quickness.
Relocates into open areas beyond the 3-point line off of offensive rebounds.
Seems to have a great understanding of how to put himself into dangerous
positions. He was an excellent offensive rebounder early in the season.
Averaged nearly two per game over the full year, but was at nearly three per
game over his first eight games of the season when he played off the ball and
could regularly attack the glass.
无球端,他移动的很聪明。他会积极且迅速的空切。进攻篮板後也懂得重新跑位到三分线
外空档。似乎非常清楚如何把自己放在最具威胁性的位置。他开季时也是出色的进攻篮板
手。他整年场均接近2次进攻篮板,且在开季的前8场打更多无球角色可以更常冲抢时时场
均接近3个进攻篮板。
-Defensively, Wagler has some work to do, but at least he plays hard on that
end and generally has a sense of where he needs to be. Rotates around the
play well. Doesn’t get out of position. Generally closes out well and on
balance. Needs to work on his disruptiveness, for sure, as he gets stronger,
but he’s starting from a decent place.
防守端仍有进步空间,但至少他的比赛态度很好,而且通常知道自己应该站在哪里。轮转
意识很好。不太失位。大部分时间的closeout都做得稳定且保持平衡。在他变得更强壮後
必须让他更能在防守中制造回合,但他的起点很好。
Areas for improvement 要进步的点
-Wagler’s physical frame has a lot of room for improvement. This is by far
the biggest question as he enters the NBA. He got stronger throughout the
course of the year and over last summer under Illinois’ strength and
conditioning staff, widely considered one of the best in college basketball.
But he still needs to get even more physically ready to play in the NBA. Came
in at 188 pounds at the combine.
Wagler 的身体条件仍有很大的进步空间。这也是他至今进入NBA最大的疑问。在全美大学
被普遍认为是最佳的Illinois(去年Kasparas Jakucionis及Will Riley也都增重很多)体能
训练团队的帮助下,他整年及去年夏天确实增重了不少。但即使如此,他仍需要进一步提
升身体素质,才能做好对NBA比赛的准备。他联合试训仅有188磅的体重。
-Not explosive as a leaper or with his first step. Has a concerning
intersection of athleticism and frame that might get him pushed around too
much in the NBA early. Doesn’t explode upward effectively. Had zero dunks
this year, which is an anomaly for a player this big at the lead guard
position. Illinois played at a slow, deliberate pace that forced him into
more half-court possessions and didn’t allow for many run-out 3s, but Wagler
doesn’t have a ton of pop to his game. Much more of a crafty player who gets
by with change of pace and shiftiness.
他的第一步爆发力与垂直弹跳能力都不算突出。他的运动能力与身体条件之间存在一个令
人担忧的交集,那就是他在NBA前期会被力量压制。他的垂直爆发力不强。以该位置如此大
只的球员来说,他整季没有半次灌篮,这相当罕见。Illinois的进攻节奏较慢且偏向半场
进攻,让他较少获得快攻灌篮或跟进三分的机会,但即便如此,Wagler的技能中仍然缺乏
爆发力。他更像是依靠节奏变换及灵活度的技术流球员。
-In that vein, it’s worth noting how good Illinois’ offensive scheme was
compared to others in the country. The Illini did a tremendous job of finding
open space by playing consistently five-out with the Ivisic brothers both
capable of knocking down shots from the perimeter at the five. No team was
better offensively this year at hitting the low-hanging fruit in terms of
attacking advantageous matchups with more guard-to-guard screening actions,
allowing Wagler to find mismatches in ways that other college players don’t.
Wagler is certainly not just a creation of the offensive scheme, but some
scouts question whether Wagler was elevated by the scheme more comparatively
to other prospects.
很重要的一点是要知道Illinois本季的进攻体系相比於全国的其他学校有多优秀。Illi靠
着找来能够投三分的五号Ivisic兄弟档可以持续打五外并有着相当开阔的空间。本季没有
任何球队比Illinois更擅长利用简单优势。像是後卫与後卫之间的掩护能让Wagler找到其
他大学球员所没有的错位机会。Wagler当然不仅只是靠着进攻战术布置才能制造出手的球
员,但一些球探质疑(以及我XD)相较於其他新秀,他是否比一般球员更受益於体系加成?
-When he faced strong, athletic players on the perimeter, they generally could
recover back in front of him. He will need to get stronger to maintain his
advantages in ball screens in the NBA. Even with this, he still found ways to
be productive and effective by making quick decisions. But teams will test
him early on and force him to either shoot consistent pull-up midrange
jumpers or to maintain that advantage on the screen by keeping players on his
hip.
当他面对强壮且运动能力出色的外线防守者时,对手通常能够重新回到他的面前。他需要
变的更强壮才能在NBA维持他挡拆的优势。即使如此,本季他仍然透过快速决策维持高效率
。但NBA球队会在他生涯早期考验他并迫使他得稳定命中中距离持球跳投或是在挡拆後持续
把防守者卡在身後维持优势。
-The midrange game was not a part of Illinois’ offense or Wagler’s
repertoire this year. I worry about his ability to counter defenses. He took
about half a shot per game from the midrange and made just 33 percent of
them, per Synergy. His low shooting pocket in these areas seemed to cause
issues, as these shots were more contested than others. Can he consistently
find this shot if he needs it? Or can he develop a floater? He took about one
of those per game and made only 34.3 percent of them. Might need to add a bit
of core strength to maintain his balance on these shots to better access his
natural touch.
中距离几乎不是Illinois或是Wagler进攻的一部分。我对他未来如何反制防守仍有一些疑
虑。根据Synergy数据,他场均只会出手0.5次中距离且仅有33%的命中率。他的低出手点有
可能是问题之一,因为他比其他人更容易在中距离受到干扰。他可以在需要的时候稳定投
进这些球吗?他可以发展出一手抛投吗?本季他场均约出手一次抛投,命中率仅34.3%。他可
能必须加强核心力量才能在这类投篮中维持平衡,进一步发挥他原本不错的手感。
-Defensively, Wagler will need to get stronger and more disruptive. This is
his biggest weakness right now. He does not make many high-impact plays on
the defensive end. He’s typically in the right spots. But he only averaged
about 0.9 steals and 0.4 blocks per game. In general, Brad Underwood’s
scheme on defense tends to depress blocks and steals, but you could see that
Wagler didn’t hinder what the opposition wanted to do out there, either.
防守端,Wagler需要变得更强壮,也需要更具破坏性。这是他目前最大的弱点。他在防守
上很少做出高影响力的Play。他通常都在正确的位置。但他场均仅有0.9抄截与0.4火锅。
整体来说,Brad Underwood的战术布置本来就会压低火锅与抄截,但从比赛内容来看,
Wagler也确实没有太多干扰对手进攻的能力。
-Against players with strength or a lower center of gravity, he sometimes got
powered through his chest when he was in front of his man in one-on-one
coverages. He couldn’t quite stop his man from getting penetration and would
often have to cede ground, allowing a paint touch. Can he hold his line in
the NBA, especially early?
当面对力量较强或重心较低的球员时,即使已经站在正确位置,他仍然经常被对手直接撞
开。他无法有效阻止对手突破第一道防线并得让开位置进而让对手得到禁区触球。他能在
NBA护住自己的站位吗?尤其是生涯前期。
-There is a chance he’s a negative defender in the way that Tyrese Haliburton
is, even though his feel for the game is terrific, just because he can’t
quite hold his ground on that end. Much like with his other weaknesses, it’s
imperative that Wagler gets stronger.
有一种可能性是,他最终会成为类似Tyrese Haliburton那样的负面防守者。即便他对比赛
的感觉出色,但就是没办法在防守端站住位置。就像前面提到的许多缺点一样,Wagler变
壮非常的重要。
身家背景 跳过
心得:
投射出色 运球优良 菁英视野 无球努力且聪明的全能无爆发力豆芽菜
几乎所有问题都围绕在他的体能与对抗性
进NCAA前仅是3星高中生 连离他近在咫尺的Kansas大学都看不上他 伊利诺是唯一一所给他
奖学金的Power 4学校 大学也在伊利诺舒适的环境彻底打出来大爆发
字里行间可以感受到Vecenie看起来非常喜欢他
(话说这几年Brad Underwood名声累积的挺好的 底层教练出身辗转到Illinois 然後今年居
然已经可以招募到五星高中生Quentin Coleman了 想当年他刚上任还要努力说服Ayo来陪他
重建)
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1F:推 vince4687 : EZ78:可是我觉得……反正就没很喜欢……这届这几个 06/22 20:39
2F:→ vince4687 : 就缺陷很多…… 06/22 20:39
阿就 贯穿一切问题的豆芽菜 :(
3F:推 kyokofan : 感谢大大翻译。40.8的4不见了变成0.8 XD 06/22 20:40
4F:推 islandant : 希望我犊能选到 但应该掉不下来… 06/22 20:43
※ 编辑: EZ78 (118.165.122.237 台湾), 06/22/2026 20:43:50
5F:→ freetempo : 什麽都好但不灌篮 影片看起来切入甩不太掉对手 06/22 20:45
6F:→ tyrone0923 : 就爆发力不足阿,不过Vecenie对他的进攻评价真高 06/22 20:53
7F:推 FAYeeeeeeee : 运球重心高 灌不了篮 切入破坏力有很大的疑虑 06/22 20:57
8F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 没对抗没爆发 重心还高 06/22 20:58
9F:推 liefuchen : 重心哪会太高 运球重心高还能靠节奏过人吗 06/22 20:59
10F:→ EZ78 : 你们继续聊 我先赶Flemings QQ 06/22 20:59
11F:推 FAYeeeeeeee : 类似Luka 但Luka超耐撞 06/22 21:02
12F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 高重心+外线 方便改节奏晃人 06/22 21:03
13F:推 liefuchen : 他的过人确实是Luka那种节奏+外线的组合 但对抗性 06/22 21:06
14F:→ liefuchen : 让他单打侧翼球员非常劣势 06/22 21:06
15F:推 FAYeeeeeeee : 要往内走 卡住人过半个身体一路扛人进去 06/22 21:06
16F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 他太瘦了 很难想像他用这种方式切入 疑虑在这 06/22 21:07
17F:推 amdvega : 爆发力差又瘦但很能罚 篮下终结也没什麽问题 看好 06/22 21:08
18F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 一进来大概是四大控打最烂的 要慢慢等 06/22 21:09
19F:→ EZ78 : 他打球就 抵抗身体对抗这方面有SGA的味道 06/22 21:09
20F:→ EZ78 : 但他也没有SGA的爆发力跟中距离 06/22 21:09
21F:推 liefuchen : 一部分的原因在於他中距离手段太少 扛半身如果只 06/22 21:10
22F:→ liefuchen : 有篮下跟三分两个选择 那对手用侧翼跟着你就好 篮 06/22 21:10
23F:→ liefuchen : 下护框站死死反正你起跳跟加速都不够强 06/22 21:10
24F:→ liefuchen : 这点算是他进联盟迫切需要练出来的东西吧 06/22 21:10
25F:→ EZ78 : 他是很特别的球员 很多人的味道都沾到一点 但都很穷 06/22 21:10
26F:→ liefuchen : 基本上球队没有5外本钱的话 Wagler新秀年会非常惨 06/22 21:10
27F:→ EZ78 : 然後又有贯穿全部的对抗性及体能问题 06/22 21:11
28F:推 FAYeeeeeeee : 他这种切入的疑虑 爵士George也有 06/22 21:11
29F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 到今年第三年才算是克服 06/22 21:11
30F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 前几年要慢慢磨 06/22 21:12
31F:→ liefuchen : 然後我觉得Vecenie过於高估他的无球 至从Boswell回 06/22 21:12
32F:→ liefuchen : 归後 Wagler回到2号位比赛影响力下滑很多 他的无球 06/22 21:12
33F:→ liefuchen : 只有纵向投射 这点是我觉得选择他最大的风险 06/22 21:12
34F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 同意 06/22 21:14
35F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 爵士预期在4-8的时候我最不希望球队选的就是他 06/22 21:15
36F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 大致原因就是Life说的那些 06/22 21:15
37F:推 islandant : SGA还有臂展优势 只有节奏像 06/22 21:16
38F:推 FAYeeeeeeee : Acuff至少无球也很有料 还好一点点 06/22 21:19
39F:推 liefuchen : 去快艇 篮网其实都是不错的选择 国王的话估计很惨 06/22 21:20
40F:推 JWrld4L : 感觉他是五大控最难养的== 06/22 21:24
41F:→ vince4687 : 球商跟技术最成熟的 投射也顶级 挂肉而已 难养在哪= 06/22 21:49
42F:推 Derricklin21: 这几个乐透控球最不看好的还是Acuff 不懂为什麽爆 06/22 22:21
43F:→ Derricklin21: 吹 06/22 22:21