作者Maeno (老墨)
看板NBA
标题Re: [讨论] 96年黄金梯次重新选一次
时间Sat Jun 3 20:48:02 2006
ESPN insider也有一个mock draft的专栏,
就是用现在各球员的成就,
排出一个事後诸葛版的选秀顺位:
1. Philadelphia Allen Iverson Kobe Bryant
In one of the great draft moves in history, the Lakers traded Vlade
Divac to Charlotte for Bryant, who the Hornets had just selected with the
No. 13 pick. Normally one would say L.A. overpaid by giving up Divac for
a mid-first-rounder, but not in this case. Meanwhile, the Sixers passed
up the chance to keep Kobe in his hometown.
2. Toronto Marcus Camby 迳 Allen Iverson
Beats out Bryant in MVPs, scoring titles and jersey sales but lags
well behind in the things that win games. Iverson's 41.8 percent shooting
can't match Kobe's 45.2 percent, and Kobe's advantage in True Shooting
Percentage is even greater.
3. Vancouver(Memphis) Shareef Abdur-Rahim迳Ray Allen
The Bucks traded Stephon Marbury to get the "lesser" player in Allen,
but I doubt they're upset about the trade. He's been a reliable All-Star-
caliber performer but amazingly was only the third-best shooting guard
in his class.
4. Milwaukee Stephon Marbury迳Jermaine O'Neal
O'Neal's best seasons are slightly better than Allen's, but he's had
far fewer of them because he was stuck on the pine in Portland for so
long. Still, it's rare for the best big man in a draft class to be
selected with the 17th overall pick, so kudos to the Blazers for that.
5. Minnesota Ray Allen迳Stephon Marbury
Players No. 5 through 9 on this list may surprise you, because they run
counter to how the players are perceived today. In general, it's best to
understand the rankings not by asking "Who is better right now?" but
rather
"Who has been better to have since 1996?" For instance, Steve
Nash was undeniably better than Marbury last season. But for the first
five years of his career, Nash was a secondary player while Marbury was a
star. So would you rather draft Marbury and get 18 and 8 right away or
take Nash and wait six years for him to become an All-Star? Marbury
outrated Nash in his first five seasons, and in four of them the
difference was enormous. His career PER still comfortably tops Nash, and
he's been more durable, too.
6. Boston Antoine Walker迳Shareef Abdur-Rahim
This may surprise you even more than the Marbury rating, but Abdur-
Rahim produced immediately (18.7 ppg as a rookie), stayed at a high
level (career averages of 19.8 ppg and 8.1 rpg) and, until last year,
never got hurt. As a result, he has a higher career PER than all but the
top three players on the 1996 list and ranks fourth from his class in
minutes played. 'Reef takes a lot of unfair abuse for not making the
playoffs, but he wasn't the one choosing his teammates.
7. L.A. Clippers Lorenzen Wright迳Steve Nash
His past three seasons are better than anything that Marbury and
Abdur-Rahim have done, but his overall contribution still falls short
compared to theirs. If I were Minnesota and had today's salary cap rules
on my side (so that Marbury couldn't have forced his way out so easily),
I still would have preferred the immediate juice from Marbury to the long
lag time with Nash
8. New Jersey Kerry Kittles Peja Stojakovic
From 1996 to 2001, a few smart teams realized they could draft
international players in the first round and get huge talents at
discount prices. Stojakovic, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Dirk Nowitzki, Andrei
Kirilenko, Manu Ginobili, Primoz Brezec, Hedo Turkoglu, Marko Jaric,
Pau Gasol and Vladimir Radmanovic were all obtained this way, but the
trend suddenly careened off the tracks with the selection of Nikoloz
Tskitishvili in 2002.
9. Dallas Samaki Walker Ben Wallace
Big Ben went undrafted, but that was clearly an oversight. The three-
time defensive player of the year could arguably rank higher – and
probably would but for his miserable offensive output. Nonetheless, it's
safe to say Dallas would have preferred Wallace at No. 9 to its actual
pick – Samaki Walker.
10. Indiana Erick Dampier Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Yet another All-Star-caliber player from the 1996 draft and the third
star big man to be snubbed in the lottery. Ilgauskas went 20th overall
to the Cavs in '96 and he wasn't even their favorite pick – Cleveland
had taken Vitaly Potapenko at No. 12.
11. Golden State Todd Fuller Antoine Walker
It's unusual for a three-time All-Star to only be the 11th-best player
from a draft class. But then again, it's rare for a single draft to
produce 11 All-Stars, and Walker is pretty clearly the worst of the 11.
12. Cleveland Vitaly Potapenko Marcus Camby
On a per-minute basis, Walker can't light a candle to Camby.
Unfortunately, Camby's availability has been an issue. Since the Raptors
selected him with the second overall pick, Cotton Camby has barely played
half as many minutes as Walker thanks to a stunning variety of injuries.
13. Charlotte(New Orleans) Kobe Bryant Kerry Kittles
The eighth overall pick, Kittles would have justified that selection in
almost any other draft. He beat out several other quality players –
including Erick Dampier, Malik Rose, Jerome Williams and Derek Fisher –
to grab the final lottery spot in this exercise.
总结一下,
ESPN 编辑群们是以过去十年来的表现来评论,
而不是最近三年,
所以Steve Nash就只排到了No.7
而默默付出, 本梯的铁人Abdur-Rahim并没被忘记,
至於个人则要小小替AI叫个屈,
费城在以他为中心, 快速走出重建期, 挤身东区列强并问鼎过总冠军後,
在无数次的被击倒-重新爬起後,
在奔驰的Phila#3球衣几乎已成城市icon之後,
似乎也不能说AI亏欠费城什麽了,
这也让我想到一代中锋Patrick Ewing球衣在Madison Square Garden退休那天,
我看到令人五味杂陈的两句话:
"没有哪个球员亏欠一个城市, 像Ewing亏欠纽约这麽多, "
---以他为中心重建这麽久, 身旁名帅副手来来去去, 始终与冠军无缘...
"但也没有哪一个城市亏欠一个球员, 能像纽约亏欠Ewing这麽多"
---刻薄的媒体, 毫不包容的嘘声, 从未间断的批评, 讽刺地在他受伤时演出
老八传奇...
Btw,
黄金96真的越看越有the great 84 class的味道,
里面提到最好的射手之一: Ray Allen,
"但令人讶异的是,
他只是这个选秀会上第三好的得分後卫"
提到刚打进Final的Antoine Walker,
"一个三届全明星, 只排到No.11是有点怪异,
但你看过有哪一梯出产了11个全明星?"
二十啷当的我们,
孺慕地抓到84的尾巴, 目睹96一路走来, 现在又看到03的爆长,
很幸运!
不是吗?!
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1F:推 cle26:我一直觉得我很幸运 能够看到jordan打球 XD 06/03 20:51
2F:推 Iversonchi:好文推 ^^ 06/03 20:55
3F:推 bonka18:推好文~~ 06/03 20:56
4F:推 whowherehow:push 06/03 21:05
5F:→ wurenben:如果nba的gm都那麽有先见之明,manu也不会落到58顺位 06/03 21:05
6F:推 fenglingling:推...超幸运的吧...... 我爱AI 06/03 21:07
7F:推 motoman:Ewing当初被一通电话得知送到西雅图後 在市区逛了5小时 06/03 21:18
8F:→ motoman:还舍不得走 06/03 21:19
9F:推 RainyDays:我一直觉得我很幸运 可以看到AI打球 06/03 21:19
10F:推 rahim1211:好文推...还记得SAR是好球员的人 不多 06/03 21:27
11F:→ rahim1211:有幸看过MJ和AI单挑的人更是无比幸福吧 06/03 21:28
12F:推 Price:推这篇~ 06/03 21:30
13F:推 TonyBlair:如果AI长得像A.Walker,还有人会喜欢他吗? 06/03 21:42
14F:推 AliceJapan:推楼上 好中肯 06/03 21:58
15F:推 CGary:可惜纽约的GM一直都挺脑残的...再加上Ewing遇上了老乔... 06/03 22:07
16F:推 Sephiroth:推...最後一段的确是 06/03 22:10
17F:推 sirleon:很有感触的文章 06/03 23:23
18F:推 taichi53719:最後几句话好有感觉阿^^ 06/04 00:27
19F:推 yester:推最後的btw 06/04 00:27
20F:推 u2gogowin:推推~~ 06/04 01:02
21F:推 studylance:推 最後几句真的很有感觉! 06/04 02:05
22F:推 changyiyao: 推 抓84尾 目睹96 再看03暴走 06/04 12:26
23F:嘘 rogerchou:最後几句太过矫情了吧.... 失败 06/04 14:53