作者heavensdoor (be good)
看板Eng-Class
标题Re: [请益] 比较级文法
时间Thu Dec 1 10:18:14 2011
※ 引述《calchong (小宝~)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《Takepan (Pan)》之铭言:
: : 目前正自学比较级这个阶段,不过有一个问题请益
: : (1) My brother is taller than I.
: : (2) My brother is taller than me.
: : 第一句,记得学校老师是说後面要跟前面的主格是相对应的
: : 第二句,我是问一位外国人,他说me才是对的
: : 我被搞混淆了,救我救我(挥双手)
: : 可以说明吗????感谢
: It's as simple as this:
: throw "he" into the sentence. if it sounds correct, use "I".
: throw "him" into the sentence. if it sounds correct, use "me".
: Thus,
: since "My brother is taller than him" sounds more natural
: than "My brother is taller than he"
: --> "My brother is taller than me" is correct...
: this boils down to subject/object reference if you wanted to
: dig deep, but this simple rule would help a lot esp in
: intermediate learners...
: my 2 cents
从过去个人所学来看,这个句子应该用 "I"。
这个句子是减化後的结果,原本是
My brother is taller than I am tall. 因为意思重复,省略後面的am tall
从词性来看的话,手边的OALD把形容词比较级里面的than视为连接词
连接的东西看起来应该是两个句子:
He loves me more than you do.
所以两个名词都是主词。
但是有趣的在後面,
OALD接着又列出than也可以当介系词。
例句是 : I am taller than her.
而且没有说明这是非正式的口语用法。
这很令人困惑啊,然後上网查
在Oxford Dictionaries官网上面,than的项目下
关於than後面用主格或受格,有特别说明的一段文字,复制如下
Usage
Traditional grammar holds that personal pronouns following than should be
in the subjective rather than the objective case:
he is smaller than she; rather than he is smaller than her.
This is based on an analysis of than by which than is a conjunction
and the personal pronoun (‘she’) is standing in for a full clause:
he is smaller than she is.
However , it is arguable that than in this context is not a conjunction
but a preposition, similar grammatically to words like with,
between, or for. In this
case the personal pronoun is objective:
he is smaller than her; is standard in just the same way as,
for example, I work with her; is standard (not I work with she; ).
Whatever the grammatical analysis, the evidence confirms that
sentences like he is smaller than she; are uncommon in modern English
and only ever found in formal contexts.
Uses such as he is smaller than her, on the other hand,
are almost universally accepted.
For more explanation see personal pronoun (usage) and between.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/than
这个说法看起来也不无道理,
不过个人认为,追根究柢than後面应该还是简化後的子句,理论上用主格比较合理。
但是因为在句意与位置上,than在这里都很类似介系词,所以大家就当介系词用了,
於是後面就接受格。
不知各位前辈看法如何?
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1F:推 dearwith:这里than後面为简化子句(如你所说) 所以用主格较合理 12/01 11:33