作者decorum (Brave New World)
看板historia
標題Re: [疑問] 孫文理論的可行性?
時間Thu May 14 23:30:59 2009
拿沙漠化的問題批評老孫的大移民計畫,是有點不太公平,
因為當時的知識水準還不能及此。但是,老孫的西藏鐵路
計畫,就真的很爆笑了。美國的一個中國史專家 Alan Baumler
曾經說:Sun's plan for railway development was quite frankly nuts.
http://www.froginawell.net/china/2006/07/tibet-by-rail/
It has been in the news of late that China has built a rail line to Tibet. It
cost $3.2 billion, and the train cars have to be pressurized, but you can now
get to Tibet cheaper than you could before. The official reason for this is
to encourage economic development in the backward area of Tibet. The unspoken
purpose is of course is to encourage Han migration and tie Tibet more closely
to China. Might also help in case of war with India.
I have not seen it mentioned, but another reason to build it is because Sun
Yat-sen wanted to build a railway to Tibet. Everyone who visits Nanjing
learns that Sun wanted to build a bridge across the Yangzi, but that Mao did
it. Carrying out the great tasks of the revolution is always something
Chinese governments like to do.
After the 1911 revolution, when Yuan Shikai was made President Sun was made
Minister of Railways. Yuan was chosen over Sun because Yuan was seen as a
practical politician while Sun was a dreamer. Sun’s plan for railway
development was quite frankly nuts, as the map below, from his collected
works, shows.
In China proper he called for a network of railways that has not been built
to this day. The map of Tibet is even more fantastic. I particularly like the
route that goes along the border with India along, apparently, the spine of
the Himalayas. This, like his net of rails in Mongolia, was intended to tie
these border areas more closely to China. The era around 1911 was the age of
the Rights Recovery Movement, when in addition to Chinese governments trying
to hold on to every bit of sovereignty they could, non-state actors and
individual citizens were supposed to do the same. All the spur lines running
into Nepal seem to be laying claim to endangered territory. Most of these
lines seem economically insane, but as they are more political than economic
plans in the first place that is fine. The modern Tibet line is pretty much
the same thing. I have no idea how much economic growth in will generate, but
I’m sure it will be short of 3.2 billion. Still, Tibet is tied to the
motherland, and the fact that it is economically crazy almost makes it better.
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1F:推 chenglap:真的要吐糟的話: 孫文說中國人口太少. 05/14 23:31
2F:推 paradoxmani:所以老毛認真回應 努力生產中國人(驚) 05/14 23:32
3F:→ chenglap:其實孫中山早就預計到會被共產黨奪權, 設下黑暗兵法. 05/14 23:34
4F:→ chenglap:跟他認真, 你就輸了... 05/14 23:35
5F:推 aaa8841:所以kmt架空他 不然黨就會毀了XD 05/14 23:55
6F:→ AnthonyL:所以有神要快拜~XD 05/15 00:15
7F:→ constantin:之前看到孫文提的鐵路網,直覺認為他應該是單純地把 05/15 00:42
8F:→ constantin:地圖上的許多點用線連起來 反而不像正常的路網XD 05/15 00:43