※ 引述《daniel0424 (有人想交朋友嗎?)》之銘言： : 這篇講的也很好，雖然我也推了之前有篇說台灣人在BAR敬酒變打架，然後說台灣人 : 也歧視東南亞人，那篇也很中肯，很明顯的這兩篇是兩個完全不同面向的角度，寫的 : 都很中肯。 : 不過就如推文講的，我也想知道你的國外是哪??是歐洲嗎???如果是歐洲的話.. : 哪就有值得討論的了，我前幾個月剛去歐洲自助一個月，我只能說，歐洲人真的很不親切 : ，我絕得真的有優越感的應該是歐洲人吧，超級不親切，我去了英國、法國、西班牙， : 反而在講英語的倫敦還比較好一點，越往歐陸越屌，在西班牙還碰到服務員直接拿玻璃杯 : 給我叫我自己拿去桌上，去玩歐洲雖好玩，但也生平體會到了被歧視的感覺。 Really. I cannot judge based on very limited information. However, I thought, it depended on how much you wanted to pay. If you went to those top-quality resturant, you would not get that. About the 'help yourself'.... Recently, I have seen a foreigner asking a receipt from a Taiwanese resturant's servant, and the servant gave him a blank receipt and asked him to fill it in by himself.... To be honest, I wished I had not stood there. It was not just a problem of service quality... In Europe, they might reject to give you any receipt; not least ask you to help yourself for this... Anyway... : 因為之後我想去美國留學，很不喜歡去到那邊又要忍受這種不要說歧視， : 至少不被重視感覺，所以問了幾個去過美國，和曾在那邊呆了10幾年的人，美國人是不是 : 會很驕傲不親切，凡而給我的答案都是美國人比較熱情親切，歐洲人比較屌， : 而且親身經歷在英國的青年旅館碰到的美國人真的是比較熱情跟親切。 Yes, the differences are there, absolutely, just like the European films and American movies. European can be 'quieter' and more conservative for everything. This doesn't mean they are not kind. To understand them or to get yourself understood does take efforts. However, those American you met were more like you, who was also a traveller. If you go to America and meet some Britons, it might be still the same situation. : 這是我的體驗啦，我猜每個人的經驗都不一樣，不過我承認外國人一定內心有優越感， ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You can only admit what you are thinking. You can always guess but how can you admit what those others are thinking?? particularly those implicit expressions? : 只是心態問題和會不會表現出來罷了，像日本人看其他亞洲國家不會有優越感嗎，超高 : 的吧，可是去日本玩，妳會發現天啊，怎麼服務態度可以這麼好，但誰知道心理在想甚 : 麼勒~~~ That is a sort of culture. Japanese do everything like that. --

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