※ 引述《WillWaiting (Creep)》之銘言： : ※ [本文轉錄自 Baseball 看板] : 作者: WillWaiting (Creep) 站內: Baseball : 標題: 陳鏞基 水手Top20 : 時間: Mon Dec 18 01:30:02 2006 : 4. Young-Chi Chen, 2B, B (I like him more than other people but where : does he fit on the roster?) : http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2006/12/17/10418/783 : 這個作者很喜歡陳鏞基 : 給他好前面的排名 不過他也提到了陳鏞基的窘境 他未來的位置在哪? 下面的留言有人幹譙Bavasi交易來Vidro幹嘛 堵住陳鏞基的位置幹嘛 I'm fairly certain it's listed as Yung-Chi Chen. That's the most frustrating thing about the Vidro deal to me, even though I'm not an M's fan. I feel as if Chen could put up similar numbers to Vidro next year ... at a much lesser cost while keeping them Snelling/Fruto. Eh. Just don't understand Bavasi's move sometimes. by toonsterwu on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:29:25 AM CST 不知道是不是ptt板友 然後下面RollingWave問了有關陳鏞基評價的事 說BA排第九 而有些網站認為他防守很差把他排15~20 想問為什麼陳鏞基排這麼高 到第四 然後 toonsterwu又回答了 說他覺得他防守其實還算平均水準 不算太差 (那我想他應該是美國人 有去看小聯盟比賽吧) Why does Chen's rating level get so mixed? You list him pretty high, BA listed him at 9, but a lot of the Mariner blog think he's at best a 15-20 guy or worse? The debate on his defense attribute seems mixed, is he good/bad/horrid ? he looked fine to me in international plays. but some have said his 2B is atrocious? by RollingWave on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 07:47:42 PM CST My feeling is that Chen's D is average at 2nd. I don't think he's nearly as bad as some suggest, but he's definitely not good, to say the least. by toonsterwu on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 04:33:54 PM CST 然後又有人(Jerry)譙說 怎麼把陳鏞基跟Rowland-Smith, Minaker and Rohrbaugh 這幾個排名排這麼高 他不覺得這幾個有潛力可以成為Role player 除非作者覺得水手的農場很破爛 不然怎麼把這幾個排這麼前面 (陳鏞基是跟你有仇嗎?) 他認為有些人應該可以排的比那些人更前面 作者回應是說 那些美國的高中生他還可以有辦法弄到資料或錄影 但是外國的選手沒辦法這樣 而且外國選手的能力常常是誇大不實的 Jerry就說了 嗯 很好 保守的觀察總比靠一小段資訊判斷好 Nice work John, Interesting list. I like the high rankings for Butler and Varvaro. Varvaro in particular could move fast in 2007. I was a little suprised by how high you ranked guys like Chen, Rowland-Smith, Minaker and Rohrbaugh. My impression of each of these guys was that they had low ceilings, and weren't likely to be much more than role players or situational relievers. Do you think that these guys are more than that? Or is this just a weak system? Most of the people who follow the M's system closely are excited about some of the guys at the lowest levels of the system. Greg Halman - a CFer in the NW league this year - is generating a lot of interest among the M's prospect mavens, but not nearly as much attention in non-team-specific rankings. He is a toolsy player with a lot of upside, but he missed time this year with a broken hand. Other guys that people like are Alex Liddi, Gerardo Avila, and Carlos Peguero. The M's also signed two high-profile international players, SS Carlos Triunfel (D.R.) and OF Mario Martinez (Venezuela), that will be playing in the US next year at age 17. Do you have any opinions about these guys, or is it just too early to get a good idea of how they rate against more experienced players? IMO, I will take a toolsy 17-year-old SS with big upside over Robert Rohrbaugh anyday. by Jerry on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 04:20:20 PM CST players Those 17 year old guys like Triunfel are impossible to grade at this point...I have to see at least some short-season data. If they had even some scouting reports or video out of high school in north american I could put them in, but the guys from other countries are so often overhyped that I tend tend to play conservative on them. by John Sickels on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 04:27:10 PM CST Yeah That makes sense. Better to be conservative than speculate with little information. by Jerry on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 04:37:51 PM CST --

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