※ 引述《WillWaiting (Creep)》之铭言： : ※ [本文转录自 Baseball 看板] : 作者: WillWaiting (Creep) 站内: Baseball : 标题: 陈镛基 水手Top20 : 时间: Mon Dec 18 01:30:02 2006 : 4. Young-Chi Chen, 2B, B (I like him more than other people but where : does he fit on the roster?) : http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2006/12/17/10418/783 : 这个作者很喜欢陈镛基 : 给他好前面的排名 不过他也提到了陈镛基的窘境 他未来的位置在哪? 下面的留言有人干谯Bavasi交易来Vidro干嘛 堵住陈镛基的位置干嘛 I'm fairly certain it's listed as Yung-Chi Chen. That's the most frustrating thing about the Vidro deal to me, even though I'm not an M's fan. I feel as if Chen could put up similar numbers to Vidro next year ... at a much lesser cost while keeping them Snelling/Fruto. Eh. Just don't understand Bavasi's move sometimes. by toonsterwu on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 11:29:25 AM CST 不知道是不是ptt板友 然後下面RollingWave问了有关陈镛基评价的事 说BA排第九 而有些网站认为他防守很差把他排15~20 想问为什麽陈镛基排这麽高 到第四 然後 toonsterwu又回答了 说他觉得他防守其实还算平均水准 不算太差 (那我想他应该是美国人 有去看小联盟比赛吧) Why does Chen's rating level get so mixed? You list him pretty high, BA listed him at 9, but a lot of the Mariner blog think he's at best a 15-20 guy or worse? The debate on his defense attribute seems mixed, is he good/bad/horrid ? he looked fine to me in international plays. but some have said his 2B is atrocious? by RollingWave on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 07:47:42 PM CST My feeling is that Chen's D is average at 2nd. I don't think he's nearly as bad as some suggest, but he's definitely not good, to say the least. by toonsterwu on Mon Dec 18, 2006 at 04:33:54 PM CST 然後又有人(Jerry)谯说 怎麽把陈镛基跟Rowland-Smith, Minaker and Rohrbaugh 这几个排名排这麽高 他不觉得这几个有潜力可以成为Role player 除非作者觉得水手的农场很破烂 不然怎麽把这几个排这麽前面 (陈镛基是跟你有仇吗?) 他认为有些人应该可以排的比那些人更前面 作者回应是说 那些美国的高中生他还可以有办法弄到资料或录影 但是外国的选手没办法这样 而且外国选手的能力常常是夸大不实的 Jerry就说了 嗯 很好 保守的观察总比靠一小段资讯判断好 Nice work John, Interesting list. I like the high rankings for Butler and Varvaro. Varvaro in particular could move fast in 2007. I was a little suprised by how high you ranked guys like Chen, Rowland-Smith, Minaker and Rohrbaugh. My impression of each of these guys was that they had low ceilings, and weren't likely to be much more than role players or situational relievers. Do you think that these guys are more than that? Or is this just a weak system? Most of the people who follow the M's system closely are excited about some of the guys at the lowest levels of the system. Greg Halman - a CFer in the NW league this year - is generating a lot of interest among the M's prospect mavens, but not nearly as much attention in non-team-specific rankings. He is a toolsy player with a lot of upside, but he missed time this year with a broken hand. Other guys that people like are Alex Liddi, Gerardo Avila, and Carlos Peguero. The M's also signed two high-profile international players, SS Carlos Triunfel (D.R.) and OF Mario Martinez (Venezuela), that will be playing in the US next year at age 17. Do you have any opinions about these guys, or is it just too early to get a good idea of how they rate against more experienced players? IMO, I will take a toolsy 17-year-old SS with big upside over Robert Rohrbaugh anyday. by Jerry on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 04:20:20 PM CST players Those 17 year old guys like Triunfel are impossible to grade at this point...I have to see at least some short-season data. If they had even some scouting reports or video out of high school in north american I could put them in, but the guys from other countries are so often overhyped that I tend tend to play conservative on them. by John Sickels on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 04:27:10 PM CST Yeah That makes sense. Better to be conservative than speculate with little information. by Jerry on Sun Dec 17, 2006 at 04:37:51 PM CST --

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