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※ [本文轉錄自 BroodWar 信箱] 作者: outofdejavu (Isolation) 看板: Eng-Class 標題: Re: [文法] 此句後方只能用不定詞嗎? 時間: Thu Jan 1 23:26:38 2009 ※ 引述《JimiHendrix (Blue Wild Angel)》之銘言: : He is the first man who landed on the moon. : 有位老師說有最高級,只能改成: He is the first man to land on the moon. "只能" => 太武斷 : 不能寫成 He is the first man landing on the moon. 同樣武斷 以下是我在別的板貼過的 ------------------------------------ : : 2. She was the first woman ____ the Boston Marathon in a wheelchair. : : a. that races b.to race c.racing d.that to race : : 答案是b the first to Vr.的句型 : : 可是若選c 變成形容詞子句的句型 是否可以? who raced 改成主動racing : : c答案是否合理? : 我覺得c的文法沒錯,這題出的有點...鳥 有同感。 c 也可以。 以下是英語出版品裡的句子 - I was the first person doing camel rides, .... - I was the first person going from Alaska before Congress to tell them that the business of depletion was imminent. - It just so happened that Mr. Corette was the first man going East as I recall it. - The instructor gave the signal to start the ascent, and he was the first man going up. - She was the first woman coming overland to settle in Oregon and she bore the first child of white blood. 不再贅列了。 ------------------------------------ 以下是節錄 Cambridge Grammar of English section 471h Both finite and non-finite clauses may follow superlatives. The non-finite clauses have a similar function to relative clauses. That's one of the best films I've ever seen. She's the youngest swimmer to qualify for the Olympics. They were the fittest team finishing the course. ------------------------------------ : 但問了別位老師,他認為兩者改法都可,不定詞效果反而較差,句子一長就容易讓 : 讀者認為to land on the moon是表"為了踏上月球"這個目的。 這....有些無言了............ ------------------------------------ Practical English Usage, 3rd ed. by Michael Swan section 284.3 Superlatives can be followed* by an infinitve structure. The meaning is similar to an identifying relative clause. He is the oldest athlete ever to win an Olympic gold medal. ( = ... who has ever won ...) This structure is also common with first, second, third etc, next, last, and only. Who was the first person to climb Everest without oxygen? The next to arrive was Mrs Patterson. She's the only to have won three Nobel prizes. This structure is only possible when the noun with the superlatives has a subject relationship with the infinitive. Is this the first time that you have stayed here? (Not ... the first time for you to stay here. [句子被劃刪除線] Time is not the subject of stay.) * 並沒有說 can only be followed... ------------------------------------ : 麻煩大家為我解惑,謝謝 : p.s.這兩位在留學補習界都算蠻有名的老師,讓我不知道該相信誰。 更讓我無言....... --



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1F:推 JimiHendrix:精闢的解說~~另外They were the (fittst)是fittest嗎 01/02 00:31
2F:→ outofdejavu:抱歉,沒有注意到 01/02 00:33
3F:→ JimiHendrix:不會啦 outofdejavu大這篇文章讓我受益良多 01/02 00:44
4F:推 huggie:推一個 01/02 00:53
5F:推 huggie:but i'm still thinking the story is not this simple 01/02 00:56
6F:推 huggie:landing on the moon 的比例太懸殊 假設兩種都是正確的 01/02 00:59
7F:→ huggie:實際的使用率, 習慣用法卻差很多.. 01/02 00:59
8F:→ huggie:同樣的 qualify 那個例子也是..to qualify 比較常見 01/02 01:01
9F:→ huggie:google "youngest swimmer to qualify" 01/02 01:01
10F:→ huggie:Google "youngest swimmer qualifying" no hits 01/02 01:02
11F:→ huggie:如果grammar是把人使用語言的規則寫出來..then..it fails 01/02 01:03
12F:→ huggie:to explain the significant difference in usage. 01/02 01:03
以下是近代英語出版品的記錄 《Brotherhoods of Color: Black Railroad Workers and the Struggle for Equality》 But by 1953, black firemen on the Georgia railroad were reporting that the " Negro Fireman problem ... is better than it has ever been in the history of it," with blacks receiving the same training as whites and with the first black qualifying for a diesel job. 《Acts of the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginiain》 The retirement allowance shall be paid to the first person qualifying in the order of precedence set out in this subsection. 《The Writerly Life: Selected Non-fiction》 If his condition is strictly followed, the only literatue qualifying for the Nobel Prize would have been Self Help by Samuel Smiles, ... 《Container Transport Security Across Modes》 No administration is currently using the latest version ASYCUDA- World, which would be the only version qualifying for being called "e-customs software platform", ... 《Yellow: Race in America Beyond Black and White》 The only group qualifying for the unenviable honor is Asian Americans. 還有很多...
13F:推 dunchee:"..無言.." -> 同感。不定詞(or 裡頭的to)的意思/用法不是 01/02 02:26
14F:→ dunchee:只有用來表示目的的.... 01/02 02:26
※ 編輯: outofdejavu 來自: 220.134.53.250 (01/02 03:05) ※ 編輯: outofdejavu 來自: 220.134.53.250 (01/02 03:12) --



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15F:推 machine139:操,這老師根本不懂文法。 01/03 05:00







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