作者BroodWar (怒火燎原)
标题[转录]Re: [文法] 此句後方只能用不定词吗?
时间Sat Jan 3 03:01:13 2009
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作者: outofdejavu (Isolation) 看板: Eng-Class
标题: Re: [文法] 此句後方只能用不定词吗?
时间: Thu Jan 1 23:26:38 2009
※ 引述《JimiHendrix (Blue Wild Angel)》之铭言:
: He is the first man who landed on the moon.
: 有位老师说有最高级,只能改成: He is the first man to land on the moon.
"只能" => 太武断
: 不能写成 He is the first man landing on the moon.
同样武断
以下是我在别的板贴过的
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: : 2. She was the first woman ____ the Boston Marathon in a wheelchair.
: : a. that races b.to race c.racing d.that to race
: : 答案是b the first to Vr.的句型
: : 可是若选c 变成形容词子句的句型 是否可以? who raced 改成主动racing
: : c答案是否合理?
: 我觉得c的文法没错,这题出的有点...鸟
有同感。
c 也可以。
以下是英语出版品里的句子
- I was the first person doing camel rides, ....
- I was the first person going from Alaska before Congress to tell them
that the business of depletion was imminent.
- It just so happened that Mr. Corette was the first man going East as
I recall it.
- The instructor gave the signal to start the ascent, and he was the first
man going up.
- She was the first woman coming overland to settle in Oregon and she bore
the first child of white blood.
不再赘列了。
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以下是节录 Cambridge Grammar of English
section 471h
Both finite and non-finite clauses may follow superlatives.
The non-finite clauses have a similar function to relative
clauses.
That's one of
the best films
I've ever seen.
She's
the youngest swimmer
to qualify for the Olympics.
They were
the fittest team
finishing the course.
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: 但问了别位老师,他认为两者改法都可,不定词效果反而较差,句子一长就容易让
: 读者认为to land on the moon是表"为了踏上月球"这个目的。
这....有些无言了............
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Practical English Usage, 3rd ed. by Michael Swan
section 284.3
Superlatives can be followed* by an infinitve structure.
The meaning is similar to an identifying relative clause.
He is
the oldest athlete ever
to win an Olympic gold medal.
( = ... who has ever won ...)
This structure is also common with
first, second, third etc,
next, last, and
only.
Who was
the first person to climb Everest without oxygen?
The next to arrive was Mrs Patterson.
She's
the only to have won three Nobel prizes.
This structure is only possible when the noun with the superlatives
has a subject relationship with the infinitive.
Is this the first time that you have stayed here?
(Not
... the first time for you to stay here. [句子被划删除线]
Time is not the subject of
stay.)
* 并没有说 can only be followed...
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: 麻烦大家为我解惑,谢谢
: p.s.这两位在留学补习界都算蛮有名的老师,让我不知道该相信谁。
更让我无言.......
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1F:推 JimiHendrix:精辟的解说~~另外They were the (fittst)是fittest吗 01/02 00:31
2F:→ outofdejavu:抱歉,没有注意到 01/02 00:33
3F:→ JimiHendrix:不会啦 outofdejavu大这篇文章让我受益良多 01/02 00:44
4F:推 huggie:推一个 01/02 00:53
5F:推 huggie:but i'm still thinking the story is not this simple 01/02 00:56
6F:推 huggie:landing on the moon 的比例太悬殊 假设两种都是正确的 01/02 00:59
7F:→ huggie:实际的使用率, 习惯用法却差很多.. 01/02 00:59
8F:→ huggie:同样的 qualify 那个例子也是..to qualify 比较常见 01/02 01:01
9F:→ huggie:google "youngest swimmer to qualify" 01/02 01:01
10F:→ huggie:Google "youngest swimmer qualifying" no hits 01/02 01:02
11F:→ huggie:如果grammar是把人使用语言的规则写出来..then..it fails 01/02 01:03
12F:→ huggie:to explain the significant difference in usage. 01/02 01:03
以下是近代英语出版品的记录
《Brotherhoods of Color: Black Railroad Workers and the Struggle for Equality》
But by 1953, black firemen on the Georgia railroad were reporting that the "
Negro Fireman problem ... is better than it has ever been in the history of
it," with blacks receiving the same training as whites and with
the first
black
qualifying for a diesel job.
《Acts of the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginiain》
The retirement allowance shall be paid to
the first person
qualifying in the
order of precedence set out in this subsection.
《The Writerly Life: Selected Non-fiction》
If his condition is strictly followed,
the only literatue
qualifying for the
Nobel Prize would have been Self Help by Samuel Smiles, ...
《Container Transport Security Across Modes》
No administration is currently using the latest version ASYCUDA- World, which
would be
the only version
qualifying for being called "e-customs software
platform", ...
《Yellow: Race in America Beyond Black and White》
The only group
qualifying for the unenviable honor is Asian Americans.
还有很多...
13F:推 dunchee:"..无言.." -> 同感。不定词(or 里头的to)的意思/用法不是 01/02 02:26
14F:→ dunchee:只有用来表示目的的.... 01/02 02:26
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※ 编辑: outofdejavu 来自: 220.134.53.250 (01/02 03:12)
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15F:推 machine139:操,这老师根本不懂文法。 01/03 05:00