作者sophiajoan (sophiajoan)
看板Pharmacy
標題Re: [問題] Class IV antiarrthymic drug 機轉
時間Sat Jul 28 00:52:53 2012
這本書的用詞會讓人產生混淆
就我的理解, 參考braunward 9th ch35
像Na/K/Ca 這一類voltage gated ion channel皆以三種形式存在
(有些藥理的書也會提到 e.g. Katzung)
(voltage gated意指channel 打開受cell membrane potential 影響
cell membrane depolarization時才打開)
1. open/activated state (cell membrane depolarization才打開
這本書上寫成:open, depolarized channels)
2. closed/inactivated state (Ca channel 在打開後, 就會直接進入
closed/inativated state, 這個state 無法再度被活化)
3. closed/resting state(cell membrane repolarization後, Ca
channel 才會從closed inativated state進入close resting
state 此狀態下的channel 才可以再度被活化)
就因為Verapamil and ditiazem 只會抑制open/activated calcium cnannel
所以才叫use-dependent,而且不讓open/ativated calcium channel 回到
close/resting state
(原文寫prevent repolarization,應該就是不讓calcium channel回到closed/resting
state, 而不是指prevent cell menbrane repolarization)
因為verapamil/diltaizem主要的作用就是抑制Ca流入細胞, 整體而言是會"加速"
cell membrane repoalrization, 但因為抑制calcium channel回到
close/resting state, 對下一個actional potential cycle而言, 可
以活化的calcium channel變少了, 因此會增加effective refractory period,
亦即傳導速度變慢)
※ 引述《hpw01 (hpw)》之銘言:
: 在Lippincotts Illustrated Reviews Pharmacology第十七章提到
: 關於第四類抗心律不整藥物Verapamil and diltiazem的機轉:
: Actions: Calcium enters cells by voltage-sensitive channels and by
: receptor-operated channels that are controlled by the binding of agonists,
: such as catecholamines, to membrane receptors. Calcium-channel blockers, such
: as verapamil and diltiazem, are more effective against the voltage-sensitive
: channels, causing a decrease in the slow inward current that triggers cardiac
: contraction.以上可以讀懂
: Verapamil and diltiazem bind only to open, depolarized channels,
: thus preventing repolarization until the drug dissociates from the channel.
: 這邊開始不懂了
: 為什麼只接在打開跟去極化的通道會防止通道的再極化?
: These drugs are therefore use-dependent; that is, they block most effectively
: when the heart is beating rapidly, because in a normally paced heart, the
: calcium channels have time to repolarize and the bound drug dissociates from
: the channel before the next conduction pulse.
: 不太理解甚麼叫做鈣離子通道的再極化
: 書上講動作電位有一個圖將Action potential of a Purkinje fiber分成
: 0 1 2 3 4 五個phase
: 其中phase3再極化時作用的不是主要是鉀離子嗎?跟鈣離子有甚麼關係呢?
: 最後一段(前面的問題解決了應該就懂了,打上來幫助理解)
: By decreasing the inward current carried by calcium,
: verapamil and diltiazem slow conduction and
: prolong the effective refractory period in tissues that are dependent on
: calcium currents, such as the AV node. These drugs are therefore effective in
: treating arrhythmias that must traverse calcium-dependent cardiac tissues.
: 書上還提到Verapamil and diltiazem治療心房性心律不整比心室性心律不整有效
: 請問是為什麼呢?
最後一個問題, 我的理解是verapamil and diltiazem主要作用於SA node and AV node,
心房性心律不整, 一定要經過AV node 傳到心室, 才會造成心搏過快
因此只要抑制AV node整體速度就會降下來,
反觀心室性心律不整並不需要AV node就可以跳,
因此你抑制SA node or AV node,對心室性心律不整沒有幫助.
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1F:→ sophiajoan:可以活化的calcium"channel"少減.PO文有誤不知如何編輯 07/28 01:33
2F:→ sophiajoan: 減少 07/28 01:34
3F:推 hpw01:謝謝詳細的回答^^ 07/30 16:33
4F:推 hpw01:還請問:這意味著心室的傳導不像心房一樣仰賴鈣離子通道是嗎? 07/30 16:35
5F:→ stvene:在文章前按大寫E 07/30 17:33
※ 編輯: sophiajoan 來自: 114.34.109.233 (07/30 20:45)
6F:→ sophiajoan:不是! 是reentry circuit or tachycarida不需要AV node 07/30 20:46
7F:推 hpw01:OK 理解了 謝謝您^^ 08/06 12:41