※ 引述《Mies (The winner is)》之銘言： : 反正怎麼說都是別人不對，永遠也不是Penny的問題，當球迷也不是這樣吧？ : 就算要比死忠的球迷，有人會比我來的著迷嗎？ 我很懷疑 Yea, you are right. But upon what you've said, I strongly doube it you have read Penny's words at all or watched his game. : 儘管如此，我還是要說說Penny，畢竟他帶著我們的期待啊。 : 有人說我拿Pippen摔椅子的例子不好，因為那不是霸氣，因為那是負面的云云 : 我想可能是真的不恰當，那我改拿Jordan當例子吧： : 他會檢討自己的缺點，下次交鋒時全力以赴擊敗他，在他心中，他要擊敗所有人。 : 他從不怪東怪西，包括裁判。即使裁判會誤判，也盡全力使裁判的判決不受影響ꄊ You sure you are Jordan fan? Jordan got all the advantage a refereee can give to him. So in any ONE game, he is always the one who got the right side of refs. Of course there will be some "doubtful calls", but in ONE game, he knows he will win the refs because of his reputation. : 現在的NBA我在很多人身上都看到這個勝利因子，每一隊的主力球員大都有ꄊ The "winning factor" you are saying here, I think is kinda equal to "trash talk" ability. Someboday says before, Mike is only behind Miller on this category-- trash talk category. The "honorable" Mike you respect is a trash talk queen!! I like Mike as well, but I know he trash talk his opponent a lot as one of his weapon, he is not that honorable as you said. : 這是一股驅動力，鞭策自己努力朝向成功的方向，但是，Penny沒有。 : 不要再談腳傷、教練不給機會了，我不曉得現在的鬥志和Nick Anderson有什麼分別。 : 這麼露骨的說很毒，沒錯，也很狠，不過很貼近事實，也因為我不想說他的技巧退步了。 : 當初我很失望明明就沒人對他犯規，他還老大不爽坐在地上不肯起來... : 明明就勝負關頭，還不積極防守，緊迫盯人... : 明明可以激勵隊友鼓舞士氣時，卻沒提示隊友，反而搖頭嘆息... : 有這樣的老大嗎？ Shaq說的很對，他還沒準備好。Shaq離開魔術，Penny打擊不小 : 但他沒從逆境中站出，成為真正的老大，儘管他曾把球隊再次帶上高峰， : 不過沒有維持很久，因為他的缺點慢慢暴露出來，除了背對單打外， : 正面單打與積極的包夾、交換防守應該是他最需勤練的項目... : 接著魔術呆板的單打戰術也為人識破，他可以引導教練團的，他選擇排斥教練 : 如果是該換教練的時候，他也意興闌珊準備求去... : 自己受傷、教練無能、沒有第二副手，雖偶有佳作，但他的消沈讓自己開始在NBA裡邊緣化 : 以上是我看到的Penny，雖然我不知道大家看到什麼。因為我先是Jordan的球迷， : 後來是Penny，所以我會以Jordan的標準看待他，這是超級巨星的標準。 : 從Jordan比較他人，我學到：埋怨消極，沒有努力實踐自己的信條，不會贏。 All you are saying seems like to say the current Penny, not old Penny. And ridiculously you said Penny started to lose after O'neal left because he only got one weapon? I can only shake my head, this means you didn't watch Penny's game at all. I can tell you now, in games Penny has played before 2000, the winning percentage is above 70%. This is amazing, it's much higher than O'neal, even higher than Jordan. And this number pretty much tell you how wrong you are. One more thing, I do agree Penny is not aggressive as he should be. But I think he is ready anytime in his prime. That's why he is the Mr. Playoff. Because he play his best when the team needs him the most, but the premise is, only if his teammates are happy and the coach is happy. Thats also the reason why in 1997 playoffs, he tried to pass a lot in the first 2 games, but after down by 0-2, and coach said he should shoot first, pass second, and he exploded for high scoring the next 3 games, doesn't even need to warm up. Because, he is ready for that position, anywhere, anytime. --

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