※ 引述《Mies (The winner is)》之铭言： : 反正怎麽说都是别人不对，永远也不是Penny的问题，当球迷也不是这样吧？ : 就算要比死忠的球迷，有人会比我来的着迷吗？ 我很怀疑 Yea, you are right. But upon what you've said, I strongly doube it you have read Penny's words at all or watched his game. : 尽管如此，我还是要说说Penny，毕竟他带着我们的期待啊。 : 有人说我拿Pippen摔椅子的例子不好，因为那不是霸气，因为那是负面的云云 : 我想可能是真的不恰当，那我改拿Jordan当例子吧： : 他会检讨自己的缺点，下次交锋时全力以赴击败他，在他心中，他要击败所有人。 : 他从不怪东怪西，包括裁判。即使裁判会误判，也尽全力使裁判的判决不受影响ꄊ You sure you are Jordan fan? Jordan got all the advantage a refereee can give to him. So in any ONE game, he is always the one who got the right side of refs. Of course there will be some "doubtful calls", but in ONE game, he knows he will win the refs because of his reputation. : 现在的NBA我在很多人身上都看到这个胜利因子，每一队的主力球员大都有ꄊ The "winning factor" you are saying here, I think is kinda equal to "trash talk" ability. Someboday says before, Mike is only behind Miller on this category-- trash talk category. The "honorable" Mike you respect is a trash talk queen!! I like Mike as well, but I know he trash talk his opponent a lot as one of his weapon, he is not that honorable as you said. : 这是一股驱动力，鞭策自己努力朝向成功的方向，但是，Penny没有。 : 不要再谈脚伤、教练不给机会了，我不晓得现在的斗志和Nick Anderson有什麽分别。 : 这麽露骨的说很毒，没错，也很狠，不过很贴近事实，也因为我不想说他的技巧退步了。 : 当初我很失望明明就没人对他犯规，他还老大不爽坐在地上不肯起来... : 明明就胜负关头，还不积极防守，紧迫盯人... : 明明可以激励队友鼓舞士气时，却没提示队友，反而摇头叹息... : 有这样的老大吗？ Shaq说的很对，他还没准备好。Shaq离开魔术，Penny打击不小 : 但他没从逆境中站出，成为真正的老大，尽管他曾把球队再次带上高峰， : 不过没有维持很久，因为他的缺点慢慢暴露出来，除了背对单打外， : 正面单打与积极的包夹、交换防守应该是他最需勤练的项目... : 接着魔术呆板的单打战术也为人识破，他可以引导教练团的，他选择排斥教练 : 如果是该换教练的时候，他也意兴阑珊准备求去... : 自己受伤、教练无能、没有第二副手，虽偶有佳作，但他的消沈让自己开始在NBA里边缘化 : 以上是我看到的Penny，虽然我不知道大家看到什麽。因为我先是Jordan的球迷， : 後来是Penny，所以我会以Jordan的标准看待他，这是超级巨星的标准。 : 从Jordan比较他人，我学到：埋怨消极，没有努力实践自己的信条，不会赢。 All you are saying seems like to say the current Penny, not old Penny. And ridiculously you said Penny started to lose after O'neal left because he only got one weapon? I can only shake my head, this means you didn't watch Penny's game at all. I can tell you now, in games Penny has played before 2000, the winning percentage is above 70%. This is amazing, it's much higher than O'neal, even higher than Jordan. And this number pretty much tell you how wrong you are. One more thing, I do agree Penny is not aggressive as he should be. But I think he is ready anytime in his prime. That's why he is the Mr. Playoff. Because he play his best when the team needs him the most, but the premise is, only if his teammates are happy and the coach is happy. Thats also the reason why in 1997 playoffs, he tried to pass a lot in the first 2 games, but after down by 0-2, and coach said he should shoot first, pass second, and he exploded for high scoring the next 3 games, doesn't even need to warm up. Because, he is ready for that position, anywhere, anytime. --

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