作者rt3648yth (Archipelago群島)
看板NY-Yankees
標題[討論] Didi衝本壘out
時間Sat Apr 7 11:59:49 2018
剛剛Didi的play相信大家都看過了,然後裁判的判決讓多數版友(包含我)很不爽,所以呢,
小弟我剛剛去看了一下棒球規則7-13,先上原文內容:
OFFICIAL BASEBALL RULE 7.13 Collisions at home plate
A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the
plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering
home plate). If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score
initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in
such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player
covering home plate loses possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the
umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other baserunners shall return to
the last base touched at the time of the collision.
Rule 7.13 comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the
plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through
with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner
deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in
violation of Rule 7.13. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate
manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 7.13. A slide shall be
deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's
buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In
the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid
appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the
catcher.
Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the
pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of
the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of
the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding
the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 7.13 if the
catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in order to field a throw, and the
umpire determines that the catcher could not have fielded the ball without
blocking the pathway of the runner and that contact with the runner was
unavoidable.
可以注意到最後一段,裡面只說到Catcher,但是沒有說到補位的防守者,所以剛剛Givens
雖然有妨礙跑壘的嫌疑,但裁判無法用此條款來判他妨礙因此最後維持原判。
其他版友有甚麼想法呢? 歡迎在下面推文討論
參考資料:
https://goo.gl/TdhNDf
對了,補個道歉啟事,wen大大,剛剛在live文下面我太衝動了,導致我發表一些激烈噓
文,
冷靜過後在此跟你說聲抱歉orz。
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1F:→ wsan : 嗯... 若是用這規則來說 不改判就可理解 但有爭議 04/07 12:02
有爭議這點不可否認,可是拿規則起來看的話,會發現其實沒有投手的皮條...
2F:→ sonesnsdsosi: 推04/07 12:03
3F:推 justin91039 : 推04/07 12:05
4F:推 mecheers : 這規則應該要適用於所有接球員吧?不然叫投手先去 04/07 12:07
5F:→ mecheers : 擋下來就好了啊04/07 12:07
6F:→ wsan : 同樓上 就看 catcher 是指捕手 還是泛指所有接球員 04/07 12:10
我覺得是專指捕手,因為在第一段規範跑壘者的時候就有附註跑壘者不能干擾捕手與其他
補位的防守員
※ 編輯: rt3648yth (124.9.198.212), 04/07/2018 12:13:27
7F:推 dimand : 這規則會不會導致以後跑者捕手不撞專撞補位的XD04/07 12:20
應該說是跑壘員不行衝撞任何保衛本壘的人,但是捕手以外的防守員能隨心所欲地卡本壘
8F:推 pink80109 : 不給我們位子,那感覺也只能撞了...04/07 12:23
9F:推 zz8940 : 所以不是捕手可以撞嗎04/07 12:24
10F:推 iambiaggi : 不能撞捕手....那撞投手?XD 04/07 12:24
※ 編輯: rt3648yth (124.9.198.212), 04/07/2018 12:29:36
11F:→ rt3648yth : 上面規定跑壘員誰都不能直接衝撞,可是捕手以外的04/07 12:31
12F:→ rt3648yth : 防守員可以無限制卡位04/07 12:31
13F:→ rt3648yth : 所以這規則根本偏袒防守方04/07 12:32
14F:→ kokal : 不知道你是查哪年的, 不過mlb 2018年版是6.01(i)(2)04/07 12:36
15F:→ kokal : p141有catcher的Definitions 04/07 12:37
我會有疑問是因為在規範跑壘員的條目裡,catcher後面還有一個附註寫“or other player
covering home plate”,但是規範防守員的條目裡的catcher後面卻沒有相應附註,所以
我覺得這給了一個鑽漏洞的空間:-/
16F:推 ZMTL : 我還是覺得這很奇怪啊XD 04/07 12:40
17F:→ ZMTL : 這樣只要暴投投出去三壘也可以一起衝過來卡? 04/07 12:41
18F:推 DovePolice : 其他8人卡本壘壘包 04/07 12:47
19F:→ DovePolice : 這不就不用得分了 04/07 12:48
20F:推 ForeverChop : 專撞補位的 你以為是天眼通嗎 04/07 12:49
21F:→ ForeverChop : 專心去碰本壘板哪有空 04/07 12:50
22F:→ wsan : 高飛犧牲打 內野除捕手外 全員包圍本壘板 XD 04/07 12:50
23F:→ DovePolice : 而且那個投手有點故意硬卡。如果非故意還說得過去 04/07 12:50
24F:推 hydreigon : 所以按照Z大的話 球只要不要飛出場外 捕手負責慢慢 04/07 12:51
25F:→ hydreigon : 走去撿球就好 其他八個坐在本壘板上圍一圈就好?XD 04/07 12:51
※ 編輯: rt3648yth (124.9.198.212), 04/07/2018 12:51:45
※ ZMTL:轉錄至看板 MLB 04/07 13:00
27F:→ BBBBBBBB : 如果接到站在那邊等就沒有問題 但用滑的進來就很不o 04/07 18:21
28F:→ BBBBBBBB : k 04/07 18:21
29F:→ BBBBBBBB : 增加跑守兩方受傷機會 04/07 18:23
30F:推 slow1976 : 下次我們暴投就這樣搞對手啊 看金鶯敢不敢衝本壘 04/07 18:50
31F:推 udm : 正式宣佈大聯盟將加入美式足球的衝撞以吸引球迷? 04/07 19:40