作者rt3648yth (Archipelago群岛)
看板NY-Yankees
标题[讨论] Didi冲本垒out
时间Sat Apr 7 11:59:49 2018
刚刚Didi的play相信大家都看过了,然後裁判的判决让多数版友(包含我)很不爽,所以呢,
小弟我刚刚去看了一下棒球规则7-13,先上原文内容:
OFFICIAL BASEBALL RULE 7.13 Collisions at home plate
A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the
plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering
home plate). If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score
initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in
such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player
covering home plate loses possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the
umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other baserunners shall return to
the last base touched at the time of the collision.
Rule 7.13 comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the
plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through
with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner
deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in
violation of Rule 7.13. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate
manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 7.13. A slide shall be
deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's
buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In
the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid
appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the
catcher.
Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the
pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of
the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of
the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding
the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 7.13 if the
catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in order to field a throw, and the
umpire determines that the catcher could not have fielded the ball without
blocking the pathway of the runner and that contact with the runner was
unavoidable.
可以注意到最後一段,里面只说到Catcher,但是没有说到补位的防守者,所以刚刚Givens
虽然有妨碍跑垒的嫌疑,但裁判无法用此条款来判他妨碍因此最後维持原判。
其他版友有甚麽想法呢? 欢迎在下面推文讨论
参考资料:
https://goo.gl/TdhNDf
对了,补个道歉启事,wen大大,刚刚在live文下面我太冲动了,导致我发表一些激烈嘘
文,
冷静过後在此跟你说声抱歉orz。
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1F:→ wsan : 嗯... 若是用这规则来说 不改判就可理解 但有争议 04/07 12:02
有争议这点不可否认,可是拿规则起来看的话,会发现其实没有投手的皮条...
2F:→ sonesnsdsosi: 推04/07 12:03
3F:推 justin91039 : 推04/07 12:05
4F:推 mecheers : 这规则应该要适用於所有接球员吧?不然叫投手先去 04/07 12:07
5F:→ mecheers : 挡下来就好了啊04/07 12:07
6F:→ wsan : 同楼上 就看 catcher 是指捕手 还是泛指所有接球员 04/07 12:10
我觉得是专指捕手,因为在第一段规范跑垒者的时候就有附注跑垒者不能干扰捕手与其他
补位的防守员
※ 编辑: rt3648yth (124.9.198.212), 04/07/2018 12:13:27
7F:推 dimand : 这规则会不会导致以後跑者捕手不撞专撞补位的XD04/07 12:20
应该说是跑垒员不行冲撞任何保卫本垒的人,但是捕手以外的防守员能随心所欲地卡本垒
8F:推 pink80109 : 不给我们位子,那感觉也只能撞了...04/07 12:23
9F:推 zz8940 : 所以不是捕手可以撞吗04/07 12:24
10F:推 iambiaggi : 不能撞捕手....那撞投手?XD 04/07 12:24
※ 编辑: rt3648yth (124.9.198.212), 04/07/2018 12:29:36
11F:→ rt3648yth : 上面规定跑垒员谁都不能直接冲撞,可是捕手以外的04/07 12:31
12F:→ rt3648yth : 防守员可以无限制卡位04/07 12:31
13F:→ rt3648yth : 所以这规则根本偏袒防守方04/07 12:32
14F:→ kokal : 不知道你是查哪年的, 不过mlb 2018年版是6.01(i)(2)04/07 12:36
15F:→ kokal : p141有catcher的Definitions 04/07 12:37
我会有疑问是因为在规范跑垒员的条目里,catcher後面还有一个附注写“or other player
covering home plate”,但是规范防守员的条目里的catcher後面却没有相应附注,所以
我觉得这给了一个钻漏洞的空间:-/
16F:推 ZMTL : 我还是觉得这很奇怪啊XD 04/07 12:40
17F:→ ZMTL : 这样只要暴投投出去三垒也可以一起冲过来卡? 04/07 12:41
18F:推 DovePolice : 其他8人卡本垒垒包 04/07 12:47
19F:→ DovePolice : 这不就不用得分了 04/07 12:48
20F:推 ForeverChop : 专撞补位的 你以为是天眼通吗 04/07 12:49
21F:→ ForeverChop : 专心去碰本垒板哪有空 04/07 12:50
22F:→ wsan : 高飞牺牲打 内野除捕手外 全员包围本垒板 XD 04/07 12:50
23F:→ DovePolice : 而且那个投手有点故意硬卡。如果非故意还说得过去 04/07 12:50
24F:推 hydreigon : 所以按照Z大的话 球只要不要飞出场外 捕手负责慢慢 04/07 12:51
25F:→ hydreigon : 走去捡球就好 其他八个坐在本垒板上围一圈就好?XD 04/07 12:51
※ 编辑: rt3648yth (124.9.198.212), 04/07/2018 12:51:45
※ ZMTL:转录至看板 MLB 04/07 13:00
27F:→ BBBBBBBB : 如果接到站在那边等就没有问题 但用滑的进来就很不o 04/07 18:21
28F:→ BBBBBBBB : k 04/07 18:21
29F:→ BBBBBBBB : 增加跑守两方受伤机会 04/07 18:23
30F:推 slow1976 : 下次我们暴投就这样搞对手啊 看金莺敢不敢冲本垒 04/07 18:50
31F:推 udm : 正式宣布大联盟将加入美式足球的冲撞以吸引球迷? 04/07 19:40