作者supergary (supergary)
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標題[翻譯] Hank Steinbrenner: I hate divisional setup
時間Fri Sep 26 18:36:35 2008
繼之前對國家聯盟沒有採用DH制度開砲後,這個禮拜洋基的小老闆Hank Steinbrenner再
度對聯盟目前的分區制度發表他的不滿意見。
以下翻譯自Sporting News網站..
There has been plenty of discussion about so many large-market teams
being in playoff contention this season. But some small-market teams have
been in the running all season. The Rays are the best example of that.
已經有許多關於本季如此多的大市場球隊打進季後賽的討論。但是也有些小市場球隊
整季都在競爭行列中。光芒隊就是最佳的例子。
This is when the topic of revenue sharing usually comes up. That's a
system I don't particularly like. It's a socialist system, and I don't agree
with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is
it even American? I'd argue no on both of those points.
利潤分配這個議題經常被提出。這是我特別不喜歡的體制。它是屬於社會主義,我無
法贊同。它行得通嗎?這將因個人觀點而異。那它是正確的嗎?甚至在美國都是嗎?這兩點
我都不認同。
But if you want to talk about things that infuriate me about the game
today, revenue sharing doesn't top the list. The biggest problem is the
divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and
I hate it now.
但是如果你想談論現在讓我感到生氣的比賽,利潤分配不是最主要的。最大的問題是
大聯盟的分區制度。我在1970年代時就不喜歡這個制度,現在則是恨透了。
Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries
and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of
people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to
the playoffs while we're not. This is by no means a knock on Torre -- let me
make that clear -- but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the
A.L. East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The A.L. East is never
weak. Ask the teams that finished behind us all of those seasons. I'll say it
right now: Boston should have made the playoffs in 1978. We beat the Red Sox
in that one-game playoff, but they still had a better record than the Royals,
who won the A.L. West. And that's one of many examples.
大聯盟為了創造更多的競爭與刺激而走向數個分區的制度。但是這一點也不公平。你
見到許多人在媒體上指出Joe Torre與道奇隊即將打進季後賽,但是我們卻沒有。這絕非
是對Torre的貶損 -- 讓我解釋清楚 -- 瞧瞧他們所處的分區。如果道奇隊屬於美聯東區
,哪麼道奇隊將不在季後賽競爭行列中。美聯東區總是競爭激烈,去問問這些球季排名在
我們後面的球隊。我現在想說: 1978年紅襪隊應該要能進軍季後賽的,但是它在那唯一的
一場季後賽比賽中被我們打敗了,但是他們的季賽成績卻比美聯西區冠軍皇家隊優異。這
是其中的一個例子。
I'm happy for Joe, but you have to compare the divisions and the
competition. What if the Yankees finish the season with more wins than the
Dodgers but the Dodgers make the playoffs? Does that make the Dodgers a
better team? No.
我為Joe感到高興,但是你必須比較分區與競爭對手。假設洋基隊在球季結束時勝場
數多於道奇隊,但是道奇隊卻能夠打進季後賽?這代表道奇隊是一支比較強的球隊嗎?不。
We play 162 games to determine the best teams, but why even bother if an
83-win team wins the World Series? Why not just play 30 games and then have a
long playoff season? Otherwise, baseball's regular season becomes almost as
useless as hockey's regular season.
我們藉由162場比賽來決定最佳球隊,但是如果一支83勝的球隊贏得了世界冠軍?那麼
為什麼不要只打30場例行賽而改打長期的季後賽呢?大聯盟的例行賽變得幾乎和曲棍球例
行賽一樣的無用。
The divisional setup is not right by any definition of logic. But the
sports media rarely deals with logic -- so you never read about this.
由各方面的邏輯來看,分區制度是不正確的。但是運動媒體卻很少討論邏輯 -- 所以
你不曾讀到相關報導。
So, what should be done? Have an A.L. and an N.L. and put the top four
finishers from each in the playoffs. You'd still have eight teams and the
same number of playoff rounds. The Yankees still wouldn't be in the
postseason this year in my setup, so it's not sour grapes. It's just the
smart way to do things. Unfortunately, we don't do that. But we should
because -- here comes that word again -- it's logical.
那麼該怎麼做呢?聯盟分為國家聯盟與美國聯盟,由兩聯盟分別戰績最佳的四支球隊
打季後賽。如此同樣有八支球隊進行季後賽,回合數也相同。今年洋基隊在我所說的制度
下仍然無法打進季後賽,所以這不是酸葡萄心理。這只是用聰明的方法來做事情而已。不
幸的是,我們卻沒有這麼做。但是我們應該這麼做,因為 -- 老話一句 --這樣才符合邏
輯。
The one saving grace in the current six-division setup is the wild card.
Without it, we'd have a complete disaster because a deserving team from each
league would be kept out each season. You can't keep a strong second-place
team out of the playoffs just because it finished behind a dominant
first-place team. And if a wild-card team wins the World Series, great. It
got there because it had a great record, not because it won a weak division.
目前六個分區制度唯一的可取之處就是外卡。如果沒有外卡,那麼一隻應打進季後賽
的球隊卻年年被擋在門外,這就真的是個完全失敗的制度了。你不該讓一支優秀的球隊只
因為排名第二而無法打季後賽。如果一支外卡球隊贏得了世界冠軍,太棒了。這不是因為
他是競爭力較差的分區的冠軍,而是他真的擁有不錯的戰績。
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=462429
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1F:推 subcrew02:嘴砲Hank 你贏了! 09/26 18:39
2F:推 krajicek:NHL中槍,莫名其妙 09/26 18:43
3F:→ j094097:Game set Hank Win 09/26 18:49
4F:推 ytchen:若真的只分兩區每區取前四進季後賽..當洋基是美聯第5時.. 09/26 18:49
5F:推 IronChef:作為NHL球迷 我只有一個感想: 幹林老師的勒 09/26 18:49
6F:→ j094097:那他一定又會再嘴泡一次 09/26 18:49
7F:→ ytchen:Hank又會說我們比國聯第一的道奇戰績要好..所以要廢兩個聯 09/26 18:49
8F:→ IronChef:水桶我吧 反正是韓國發明的 沒差 09/26 18:50
9F:→ ytchen:盟..反正一直嘴泡下去就對了..嘴泡無敵XD 09/26 18:50
10F:推 OoyaoO:分兩個區前八強又沒進 Hank:球迷才是球隊該尊重的 所以應 09/26 18:52
11F:→ OoyaoO:該讓球季中球迷進場前8名的球隊打季後賽 09/26 18:52
12F:推 maxspeed150:這個人真的是莫名其妙 09/26 18:57
13F:推 ROCAF:不過就是個很有錢的鄉民罷了 09/26 19:05
14F:推 asdf121250:那還是輪不到洋基啊XD 國聯中區就卡掉兩個名額了耶 09/26 19:09
15F:推 OoyaoO:洋基票房會沒有美聯前4嗎 不要鬧了XD 09/26 19:11
16F:推 swonrul:沒近季後賽所以很悶吧 讓他發洩一下 反正又不是他說了算 09/26 19:33
17F:推 CKCCCC:我覺得其實Hank說的不無道理...只是現實制度很難因為洋基今 09/26 19:53
18F:→ CKCCCC:年沒辦法進季後賽而改變... 09/26 19:53
19F:推 mepass:乾脆把mlb也買下來就可以照你說的作啦= = 09/26 19:59
20F:→ siliver:真羨慕有錢人,就算是嘴砲記者也會報 ~"~ 09/26 20:19
21F:推 polishing:勝場數多無法晉級,不就代表他的分區有相對較弱的隊伍?! 09/26 20:23
22F:→ polishing:所以分區晉級不覺得有特別不合理.. 比起經典賽..恩... 09/26 20:24
23F:推 manieliu:洋基有一年只有8x勝奪冠不是嗎? 09/26 20:27
24F:推 yoseii:雖然說講也有道理,可是實施了那麼多年了能改嗎… 09/26 20:29
25F:推 kenro:其實說的也是有道理 不能全說都是嘴泡...只是改是大工程 09/26 20:53
26F:推 skuld007:好個鄉民老闆 XD 09/26 20:54
27F:推 Levi:我贊成Hank的看法,我想把洋基和綠帽的對調,會更公平一點。 09/26 20:56
28F:推 NPLNT:就是不公平才刺激阿 09/26 21:00
29F:推 kennypippen:雖然支持洋基 但不得不說小老闆很嘴砲XD 09/26 21:26
30F:推 OoyaoO:洋基跟綠帽對調要跟天使打18場 條子打18場 輸定了XD 09/26 21:28
31F:推 tsubasa6405:我也贊成Hank的看法 花這麼多錢最後只能打高爾夫不公 09/26 21:34
32F:推 OoyaoO:不過我是還滿贊成每隔5~6年重新分一下區就是了 09/26 21:37
33F:推 siliver:洋基跟天使對調那事情就簡單了(茶). 09/26 21:53
34F:推 CGary:我也贊成Hank的看法,順便把Salary Cap訂下來,以免蠢蛋太蠢 09/26 21:56
35F:→ CGary:花太多錢還只能靠腰 09/26 21:57
36F:推 charlie01:老實說如果用他這種方法NYY目前是有季後賽的 怎會沒有 09/26 22:02
37F:→ charlie01:光看戰績的話我們現在和MIN並列AL第四... 09/26 22:03
38F:推 CGary:是啊, 有一個制度更能拿進季後賽呢...給錢最多的優先有個季 09/26 22:06
39F:→ CGary:後賽名額, 這樣更乾脆, 是吧? :p 09/26 22:07
40F:推 clubbox:別隊也要說大家薪水都該公平 乾脆勝率最高直接冠軍最公平 09/26 22:16
41F:推 georgeyu:我怎麼覺得這篇是雙城跟白襪躺著重槍 09/26 22:29
42F:推 jayin07:繼承他老爹的嘴砲、財產、球隊,但是沒繼承到他老爹的氣度 09/26 22:36
43F:推 guteres:他邏輯怪怪的.... 09/26 22:40
44F:推 siliver:他老爹非常喜歡棒球這點好像也沒繼承到...... 09/26 22:40
45F:→ siliver:沒差拉,還有Hal可以期待 :p 09/26 22:40
46F:推 ccw6811:比錢多,花錢愈大的人贏XD 09/26 22:57
47F:推 OoyaoO:他才不喜歡棒球 他喜歡贏球 09/26 23:11
48F:推 joanneaqu:眼紅別人就嘴砲喔!2000年的時候 演技那年晉級有四個球隊 09/27 00:11
49F:→ joanneaqu:打錯 洋基!那年他們晉級有四支隊伍戰績高過他們 噗 09/27 00:12
50F:推 Zoomyoyo:老子有錢 愛嘴砲你又奈我何? 09/27 00:16
51F:推 rssh0106:分區制度哪裡差了? 具體表述吧 假如我老闆是他 09/27 00:59
52F:→ rssh0106:我真的會去撞牆 09/27 01:00
53F:推 phix:不是節省球隊移動成本嗎??? 地區在一起分成同一區的多打一點 09/27 01:14
54F:推 Asucks:花最多錢還進不了季後賽,見笑轉生氣,活該 09/27 11:00
55F:推 guitarseven:像Hank這樣的做法,成績較差的球隊,很快就會練兵了吧 09/27 17:03
56F:推 tsming:這種文在黑特會被噓爆吧XDDD 09/27 21:35
57F:推 JamesChen:這篇寫的很好阿 邏輯也很合理... 09/28 01:37
58F:推 weinine32:不爽就學道奇把球隊搬到西岸阿... 09/28 09:09