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标题[翻译] Hank Steinbrenner: I hate divisional setup
时间Fri Sep 26 18:36:35 2008
继之前对国家联盟没有采用DH制度开炮後，这个礼拜洋基的小老板Hank Steinbrenner再
度对联盟目前的分区制度发表他的不满意见。
以下翻译自Sporting News网站..
There has been plenty of discussion about so many large-market teams
being in playoff contention this season. But some small-market teams have
been in the running all season. The Rays are the best example of that.
已经有许多关於本季如此多的大市场球队打进季後赛的讨论。但是也有些小市场球队
整季都在竞争行列中。光芒队就是最佳的例子。
This is when the topic of revenue sharing usually comes up. That's a
system I don't particularly like. It's a socialist system, and I don't agree
with it. Does it work? It depends on your point of view. But is it right? Is
it even American? I'd argue no on both of those points.
利润分配这个议题经常被提出。这是我特别不喜欢的体制。它是属於社会主义，我无
法赞同。它行得通吗?这将因个人观点而异。那它是正确的吗?甚至在美国都是吗?这两点
我都不认同。
But if you want to talk about things that infuriate me about the game
today, revenue sharing doesn't top the list. The biggest problem is the
divisional setup in major league baseball. I didn't like it in the 1970s, and
I hate it now.
但是如果你想谈论现在让我感到生气的比赛，利润分配不是最主要的。最大的问题是
大联盟的分区制度。我在1970年代时就不喜欢这个制度，现在则是恨透了。
Baseball went to a multidivision setup to create more races, rivalries
and excitement. But it isn't fair. You see it this season, with plenty of
people in the media pointing out that Joe Torre and the Dodgers are going to
the playoffs while we're not. This is by no means a knock on Torre -- let me
make that clear -- but look at the division they're in. If L.A. were in the
A.L. East, it wouldn't be in the playoff discussion. The A.L. East is never
weak. Ask the teams that finished behind us all of those seasons. I'll say it
right now: Boston should have made the playoffs in 1978. We beat the Red Sox
in that one-game playoff, but they still had a better record than the Royals,
who won the A.L. West. And that's one of many examples.
大联盟为了创造更多的竞争与刺激而走向数个分区的制度。但是这一点也不公平。你
见到许多人在媒体上指出Joe Torre与道奇队即将打进季後赛，但是我们却没有。这绝非
是对Torre的贬损 -- 让我解释清楚 -- 瞧瞧他们所处的分区。如果道奇队属於美联东区
，哪麽道奇队将不在季後赛竞争行列中。美联东区总是竞争激烈，去问问这些球季排名在
我们後面的球队。我现在想说: 1978年红袜队应该要能进军季後赛的，但是它在那唯一的
一场季後赛比赛中被我们打败了，但是他们的季赛成绩却比美联西区冠军皇家队优异。这
是其中的一个例子。
I'm happy for Joe, but you have to compare the divisions and the
competition. What if the Yankees finish the season with more wins than the
Dodgers but the Dodgers make the playoffs? Does that make the Dodgers a
better team? No.
我为Joe感到高兴，但是你必须比较分区与竞争对手。假设洋基队在球季结束时胜场
数多於道奇队，但是道奇队却能够打进季後赛?这代表道奇队是一支比较强的球队吗?不。
We play 162 games to determine the best teams, but why even bother if an
83-win team wins the World Series? Why not just play 30 games and then have a
long playoff season? Otherwise, baseball's regular season becomes almost as
useless as hockey's regular season.
我们藉由162场比赛来决定最佳球队，但是如果一支83胜的球队赢得了世界冠军?那麽
为什麽不要只打30场例行赛而改打长期的季後赛呢?大联盟的例行赛变得几乎和曲棍球例
行赛一样的无用。
The divisional setup is not right by any definition of logic. But the
sports media rarely deals with logic -- so you never read about this.
由各方面的逻辑来看，分区制度是不正确的。但是运动媒体却很少讨论逻辑 -- 所以
你不曾读到相关报导。
So, what should be done? Have an A.L. and an N.L. and put the top four
finishers from each in the playoffs. You'd still have eight teams and the
same number of playoff rounds. The Yankees still wouldn't be in the
postseason this year in my setup, so it's not sour grapes. It's just the
smart way to do things. Unfortunately, we don't do that. But we should
because -- here comes that word again -- it's logical.
那麽该怎麽做呢?联盟分为国家联盟与美国联盟，由两联盟分别战绩最佳的四支球队
打季後赛。如此同样有八支球队进行季後赛，回合数也相同。今年洋基队在我所说的制度
下仍然无法打进季後赛，所以这不是酸葡萄心理。这只是用聪明的方法来做事情而已。不
幸的是，我们却没有这麽做。但是我们应该这麽做，因为 -- 老话一句 --这样才符合逻
辑。
The one saving grace in the current six-division setup is the wild card.
Without it, we'd have a complete disaster because a deserving team from each
league would be kept out each season. You can't keep a strong second-place
team out of the playoffs just because it finished behind a dominant
first-place team. And if a wild-card team wins the World Series, great. It
got there because it had a great record, not because it won a weak division.
目前六个分区制度唯一的可取之处就是外卡。如果没有外卡，那麽一只应打进季後赛
的球队却年年被挡在门外，这就真的是个完全失败的制度了。你不该让一支优秀的球队只
因为排名第二而无法打季後赛。如果一支外卡球队赢得了世界冠军，太棒了。这不是因为
他是竞争力较差的分区的冠军，而是他真的拥有不错的战绩。
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=462429
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1F：推 subcrew02:嘴炮Hank 你赢了! 09/26 18:39
2F：推 krajicek:NHL中枪，莫名其妙 09/26 18:43
3F：→ j094097:Game set Hank Win 09/26 18:49
4F：推 ytchen:若真的只分两区每区取前四进季後赛..当洋基是美联第5时.. 09/26 18:49
5F：推 IronChef:作为NHL球迷 我只有一个感想: 干林老师的勒 09/26 18:49
6F：→ j094097:那他一定又会再嘴泡一次 09/26 18:49
7F：→ ytchen:Hank又会说我们比国联第一的道奇战绩要好..所以要废两个联 09/26 18:49
8F：→ IronChef:水桶我吧 反正是韩国发明的 没差 09/26 18:50
9F：→ ytchen:盟..反正一直嘴泡下去就对了..嘴泡无敌XD 09/26 18:50
10F：推 OoyaoO:分两个区前八强又没进 Hank：球迷才是球队该尊重的 所以应 09/26 18:52
11F：→ OoyaoO:该让球季中球迷进场前8名的球队打季後赛 09/26 18:52
12F：推 maxspeed150:这个人真的是莫名其妙 09/26 18:57
13F：推 ROCAF:不过就是个很有钱的乡民罢了 09/26 19:05
14F：推 asdf121250:那还是轮不到洋基啊XD 国联中区就卡掉两个名额了耶 09/26 19:09
15F：推 OoyaoO:洋基票房会没有美联前4吗 不要闹了XD 09/26 19:11
16F：推 swonrul:没近季後赛所以很闷吧 让他发泄一下 反正又不是他说了算 09/26 19:33
17F：推 CKCCCC:我觉得其实Hank说的不无道理...只是现实制度很难因为洋基今 09/26 19:53
18F：→ CKCCCC:年没办法进季後赛而改变... 09/26 19:53
19F：推 mepass:乾脆把mlb也买下来就可以照你说的作啦= = 09/26 19:59
20F：→ siliver:真羡慕有钱人,就算是嘴炮记者也会报 ~"~ 09/26 20:19
21F：推 polishing:胜场数多无法晋级，不就代表他的分区有相对较弱的队伍?! 09/26 20:23
22F：→ polishing:所以分区晋级不觉得有特别不合理.. 比起经典赛..恩... 09/26 20:24
23F：推 manieliu:洋基有一年只有8x胜夺冠不是吗？ 09/26 20:27
24F：推 yoseii:虽然说讲也有道理，可是实施了那麽多年了能改吗… 09/26 20:29
25F：推 kenro:其实说的也是有道理 不能全说都是嘴泡...只是改是大工程 09/26 20:53
26F：推 skuld007:好个乡民老板 XD 09/26 20:54
27F：推 Levi:我赞成Hank的看法，我想把洋基和绿帽的对调，会更公平一点。 09/26 20:56
28F：推 NPLNT:就是不公平才刺激阿 09/26 21:00
29F：推 kennypippen:虽然支持洋基 但不得不说小老板很嘴炮XD 09/26 21:26
30F：推 OoyaoO:洋基跟绿帽对调要跟天使打18场 条子打18场 输定了XD 09/26 21:28
31F：推 tsubasa6405:我也赞成Hank的看法 花这麽多钱最後只能打高尔夫不公 09/26 21:34
32F：推 OoyaoO:不过我是还满赞成每隔5～6年重新分一下区就是了 09/26 21:37
33F：推 siliver:洋基跟天使对调那事情就简单了(茶). 09/26 21:53
34F：推 CGary:我也赞成Hank的看法，顺便把Salary Cap订下来，以免蠢蛋太蠢 09/26 21:56
35F：→ CGary:花太多钱还只能靠腰 09/26 21:57
36F：推 charlie01:老实说如果用他这种方法NYY目前是有季後赛的 怎会没有 09/26 22:02
37F：→ charlie01:光看战绩的话我们现在和MIN并列AL第四... 09/26 22:03
38F：推 CGary:是啊, 有一个制度更能拿进季後赛呢...给钱最多的优先有个季 09/26 22:06
39F：→ CGary:後赛名额, 这样更乾脆, 是吧? :p 09/26 22:07
40F：推 clubbox:别队也要说大家薪水都该公平 乾脆胜率最高直接冠军最公平 09/26 22:16
41F：推 georgeyu:我怎麽觉得这篇是双城跟白袜躺着重枪 09/26 22:29
42F：推 jayin07:继承他老爹的嘴炮、财产、球队，但是没继承到他老爹的气度 09/26 22:36
43F：推 guteres:他逻辑怪怪的.... 09/26 22:40
44F：推 siliver:他老爹非常喜欢棒球这点好像也没继承到...... 09/26 22:40
45F：→ siliver:没差拉,还有Hal可以期待 :p 09/26 22:40
46F：推 ccw6811:比钱多，花钱愈大的人赢XD 09/26 22:57
47F：推 OoyaoO:他才不喜欢棒球 他喜欢赢球 09/26 23:11
48F：推 joanneaqu:眼红别人就嘴炮喔!2000年的时候 演技那年晋级有四个球队 09/27 00:11
49F：→ joanneaqu:打错 洋基!那年他们晋级有四支队伍战绩高过他们 噗 09/27 00:12
50F：推 Zoomyoyo:老子有钱 爱嘴炮你又奈我何? 09/27 00:16
51F：推 rssh0106:分区制度哪里差了? 具体表述吧 假如我老板是他 09/27 00:59
52F：→ rssh0106:我真的会去撞墙 09/27 01:00
53F：推 phix:不是节省球队移动成本吗??? 地区在一起分成同一区的多打一点 09/27 01:14
54F：推 Asucks:花最多钱还进不了季後赛，见笑转生气，活该 09/27 11:00
55F：推 guitarseven:像Hank这样的做法，成绩较差的球队，很快就会练兵了吧 09/27 17:03
56F：推 tsming:这种文在黑特会被嘘爆吧XDDD 09/27 21:35
57F：推 JamesChen:这篇写的很好阿 逻辑也很合理... 09/28 01:37
58F：推 weinine32:不爽就学道奇把球队搬到西岸阿... 09/28 09:09