作者kirimaru73 (霧丸)
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標題Re: [閒聊] 你現在是車了
時間Thu Feb 24 13:02:04 2022
小孩開基定的狀態有確定答案了
http://www.cranialinsertion.com/article/3726
Q: I activate Gideon Jura's 0 ability and enchant him with Swift
Reconfiguration to turn him into a Vehicle. If I use his 0 ability on a later
turn, what does he turn into?
A: Aha, a question about layers! The interesting layer to focus on is layer
4, where all the type-changing goodness is happening. We have the effect from
Swift Reconfiguration and Gideon Jura's own effect, and the two effects
aren't dependent on one another, so we apply them in timestamp order. Swift
Reconfiguration changes his type and subtype to Artifact — Vehicle, and
nothing else.
Gideon's own effect turns him into a Human Soldier creature
that's still a planeswalker, but that "still a planeswalker" bit actually
just means "in addition to whatever types and subtypes he has", so it doesn't
turn him back into a planeswalker. The resulting type line is Artifact
Creature — Human Soldier Vehicle, which is a bit odd, but perfectly legal.
基定上面的「仍然是旅法師」並不是字面上的意思
他的意思就是「仍然是原本的類別」,不多不少,沒有其它
所以如果變身前基定已經不是旅法師,變身後也不會是旅法師
其實我個人覺得這種規則不太好,因為100個人裡面應該有101個人會想要照字面解釋
但是現在的規則並沒有轉彎空間,一定要照「仍然是原本的類別」來運作
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1F:推 shadowblade: 寫成仍然具原本類別比較不會被誤解 02/24 13:22
2F:→ kirimaru73: 這邊有個障礙,就是玩家不太喜歡看到「類別」這種官話 02/24 13:36
3F:→ kirimaru73: 除非像塔莫耶夫或是躁狂這種不得已,否則會盡量少寫 02/24 13:37
4F:→ TED781120: MTG的敘述上「此卡對OO造成X點傷害」都要寫成「~卡名~ 02/24 13:45
5F:→ TED781120: 對OO造成X點傷害」也算是我一直比較不能理解的部分。 02/24 13:45
6F:→ TED781120: 剛玩的時候我還在想,如果我場上有四個猙獰熔岩術士, 02/24 13:46
7F:→ TED781120: 是不是橫置一個就能打八點。 02/24 13:46
8F:→ buffalobill: 就像一些很欠扁的VTuber也會用名字代替「我」說話 02/24 14:13
9F:→ kirimaru73: 戳戳兵突然變得討厭了起來 02/24 15:30
11F:→ kirimaru73: 我高中打牌時曾經有同學出了兩隻來防守 我一打過去就 02/24 15:41
12F:→ kirimaru73: 看到兩坨9/9的條狀物張牙舞尾 難攻不落 02/24 15:42
13F:→ kirimaru73: 雖然我覺得怪怪的但也沒把握所以就讓他這樣玩了 02/24 15:42
14F:推 shadowblade: 有些算舊式習慣寫法保留下來的吧,現在已經改掉不少了 02/24 17:01
15F:推 Ayukawayen: 事實上是 不因此失去鵬洛客類別 的意思 02/25 16:49
16F:→ kirimaru73: 這還是會有歧異,例如會不會因此失去神器類別? 02/25 17:37
17F:→ kirimaru73: 答案是不會,因為「仍然是旅法師」有保留神器的含意 02/25 17:37
18F:→ kirimaru73: 但即使理解成「不失去旅法師類別」也無法交代神器方面 02/25 17:37
※ 編輯: kirimaru73 (123.240.129.77 臺灣), 02/25/2022 18:02:09