作者hsien2 (peace)
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標題[問題] cascade 與 suspend
時間Sat Oct 24 00:06:22 2009
我先施放這張牌
http://magiccards.info/arb/en/1.html
Ardent Plea
Enchantment, 1WU (3)
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets
+1/+1 until end of turn.)
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library
until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without
paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom in a random order.)1
Illus. Chippy
然後翻到了這張牌
http://magiccards.info/ts/en/201.html
Sorcery
Hypergenesis is green.
Suspend 3-{1}{G}{G} (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay {1}{G}{G}
and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep,
remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its
mana cost.)
Starting with you, each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or
land card from his or her hand onto the battlefield. Repeat this process
until no one puts a card onto the battlefield.1
Illus. Ron Spears
請問第二張牌是直接被使用，還是進入延緩狀態呢？
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1F：→ xiue:應該是直接施放吧我猜 10/24 00:09
2F：推 CHT:可以施放，不能延緩 10/24 00:10
3F：推 kirimaru73:可以施放 沒有魔法力費用的牌不能正常施放 因為你無法 10/24 00:33
4F：→ kirimaru73:支付不存在的費用 但另一效應允許你「不需支付費用」時 10/24 00:33
5F：→ kirimaru73:就可以躲過這項限制而施放該咒語 10/24 00:33
6F：→ kirimaru73:而延緩的先決條件是那張牌一定要在你手上 所以此例不可 10/24 00:34
7F：推 chu630:直接施放阿 現在擴充不是很流行這種套牌? 10/24 00:37
8F：推 promessa:直接施放。沒 mana cost 的牌的確不能被施放，但 Cascade 10/24 00:51
9F：→ promessa:讓你 "playing it without paying its mana cost", 所以 10/24 00:51
10F：→ promessa:就不用管有無 mana cost 了。 10/24 00:52
11F：推 jenyang8027:有以這為主題的deck了阿 10/24 13:09