作者hsien2 (peace)
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标题[问题] cascade 与 suspend
时间Sat Oct 24 00:06:22 2009
我先施放这张牌
http://magiccards.info/arb/en/1.html
Ardent Plea
Enchantment, 1WU (3)
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets
+1/+1 until end of turn.)
Cascade (When you cast this spell, exile cards from the top of your library
until you exile a nonland card that costs less. You may cast it without
paying its mana cost. Put the exiled cards on the bottom in a random order.)1
Illus. Chippy
然後翻到了这张牌
http://magiccards.info/ts/en/201.html
Sorcery
Hypergenesis is green.
Suspend 3-{1}{G}{G} (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay {1}{G}{G}
and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep,
remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its
mana cost.)
Starting with you, each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or
land card from his or her hand onto the battlefield. Repeat this process
until no one puts a card onto the battlefield.1
Illus. Ron Spears
请问第二张牌是直接被使用，还是进入延缓状态呢？
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1F：→ xiue:应该是直接施放吧我猜 10/24 00:09
2F：推 CHT:可以施放，不能延缓 10/24 00:10
3F：推 kirimaru73:可以施放 没有魔法力费用的牌不能正常施放 因为你无法 10/24 00:33
4F：→ kirimaru73:支付不存在的费用 但另一效应允许你「不需支付费用」时 10/24 00:33
5F：→ kirimaru73:就可以躲过这项限制而施放该咒语 10/24 00:33
6F：→ kirimaru73:而延缓的先决条件是那张牌一定要在你手上 所以此例不可 10/24 00:34
7F：推 chu630:直接施放阿 现在扩充不是很流行这种套牌? 10/24 00:37
8F：推 promessa:直接施放。没 mana cost 的牌的确不能被施放，但 Cascade 10/24 00:51
9F：→ promessa:让你 "playing it without paying its mana cost", 所以 10/24 00:51
10F：→ promessa:就不用管有无 mana cost 了。 10/24 00:52
11F：推 jenyang8027:有以这为主题的deck了阿 10/24 13:09