作者abc12812 (Sudba tseloveka)
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標題Re: [分享] Baseball America's 2008 Best Tools
時間Thu Aug 28 19:17:12 2008
: BEST PITCHER
: NL AL
: 1. Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks 1. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
: 2. Tim Lincecum, Giants 2. Cliff Lee, Indians
: 3. Carlos Zambrano, Cubs 3. Josh Beckett, Red Sox
: BEST FASTBALL
: NL AL
: 1. Tim Lincecum, Giants 1. Joel Zumaya, Tigers
: 2. Ben Sheets, Brewers 2. Brandon Morrow, Mariners
: 3. Edinson Volquez, Reds 3. Joba Chamberlain, Yankees
: BEST CURVEBALL
: NL AL
: 1. Ben Sheets, Brewers 1. Josh Beckett, Red Sox
: 2. Tim Lincecum, Giants 2. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels
: 3. Cole Hamels, Phillies 3. A.J. Burnett, Blue Jays
: BEST SLIDER
: NL AL
: 1. Jake Peavy, Padres 1. Joe Nathan, Twins
: 2. Brad Lidge, Phillies 2. Scott Kazmir, Rays
: 3. John Smoltz, Braves 3. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
: BEST CHANGEUP
: NL AL
: 1. Johan Santana, Mets 1. James Shields, Rays
: 2. Cole Hamels, Phillies 2. Cliff Lee, Indians
: 3. Edinson Volquez, Reds 3. Mark Buehrle, White Sox
: BEST CONTROL
: NL AL
: 1. Dan Haren, Diamondbacks 1. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
: 2. Greg Maddux, Padres 2. Justin Duchscherer, Athletics
: 3. Cole Hamels, Phillies 3. Mike Mussina, Yankees
提供幾位明星投手的各個球種的被打擊率，來比較一下
Fastball Curve Slider Changeup Other
Johan Santana .258 .236 .175
Edinson Volquez .246 .241 .360 .202
Ben Sheets
.241 .247
Brandon Webb .277 .206
.106
Tim Lincecum .257
.172 .169 .190
Dan Haren .282 .262 .201 .174(splitter)
Carlos Zambrano .260 .192 .237
Roy Halladay .264 .191 .315 .307
Cliff Lee .259 .207 .329 .294
Justin Duchscherer .259 .186 .180
Ervin Santana .282 .164 .201 .283
Scott Kazmir .243 .221 .281
Joe Saunders .269 .308 .234 .267
Brad Lidge .260 .146
Kerry Wood .243 .176
.079
Billy Wagner .224 .158
Joe Nathan .213 .164
Jonathan Papelbon
.143 .333 .189
Mariano Rivera
.217
Francisco Rodriguez .286 .090 .184 .155
Joakim Soria .209
.069 .231 .171
Kuo .194 .333 .307
: BEST RELIEVER
: NL AL
: 1. Brad Lidge, Phillies 1. Mariano Rivera, Yankees
: 2. Brian Wilson, Giants 2. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels
: 3. Kerry Wood, Cubs 3. Jonathan Papelbon, Red Sox
用WPA來看的話:
Brad Lidge 4.31
Joe Nathan 4.28
Brad Ziegler 3.76
Brian Wilson 3.60
Joakim Soria 3.49
Bobby Jenks 3.40
Francisco Rodriguez 3.29
Mariano Rivera 3.19
Scott Downs 3.12
Ron Mahay 2.81
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◆ From: 140.112.5.3
1F：推 HolyGhost:MO只有直球...尾勁卻飛來飛去, 帥呀 08/28 19:20
2F：推 pikachu123:MO:Fastball only!! 08/28 19:37
3F：→ jack18262:MO: wut is breaking ball?? 08/28 19:51
4F：推 greengreen42:他的對手可以嗆他，就是因為沒變化球才會先發轉後援 08/28 19:53
5F：推 steven850405:MO會嗆回去 我不用變化球就把打者吃死死 08/28 19:54
6F：→ globekiller:I can't 魂!!!! 08/28 19:54
7F：推 Belladonaa:先發是0:0開始唷 08/28 19:55
8F：→ OoyaoO:我很想知道寶貝碰用直球的比率到底多高 GAMEDAY上都是連發 08/28 19:59
9F：推 shoe:有沒有Kuo的？ 08/28 19:59
10F：推 KoAnne:Papelbon 直球比率大概80% 08/28 20:01
11F：推 shirlyfen:Kuo還不是CL 08/28 20:02
12F：→ abc12812:補上小小郭的數據 08/28 20:03
※ 編輯: abc12812 來自: 140.112.5.3 (08/28 20:04)
13F：推 pikachu123:Kuo直球果然很威 08/28 20:05
14F：推 KoAnne:那我補上Kuo使用比例~y 08/28 20:05
15F：推 Belladonaa:Kuo 的 WPA/LI 也排很前面 08/28 20:05
16F：→ KoAnne:Fastball 79.7% Curve 9.5% Slider 10.72% 08/28 20:06
17F：推 son8868:Kuo的速球打不到 所以專挑其他球種打嗎XDD 08/28 20:11
18F：推 Emcc:這裡的fastball應該不單指直球吧 應該還包含sinker cutter... 08/28 20:12
19F：推 KoAnne:Yes 大體算成直球系 08/28 20:14
※ abc12812:轉錄至看板 HCKuo 08/28 20:25
20F：推 s93rm6:真的不解Halladay的Slider為什麼第三>/////< 08/28 20:32
21F：推 innevertears:樓上為什麼要害羞 08/28 21:04
22F：推 Kinra:其實是 ＞(>/////<)＜ : 力爭的動作 08/28 21:16
23F：推 pikachu123:假日根本不常投滑球是要爭什麼= = 08/28 21:22
24F：推 son8868:所以印像很重要(茶 08/28 21:29
25F：推 pikachu123:印象才是王道 數據走開XD 08/28 21:31
26F：推 Kinra:數據只是簡單加減乘除 印象是人腦複雜的運算成果!!XD 08/28 21:32
27F：推 mdfh:印象中去年的齋籐大叔好像也很扯？ 08/28 21:41
28F：推 fruittall:齋藤大叔不是六打60%揮空嗎@@? 08/28 21:54
29F：→ fruittall: 右 08/28 21:54
30F：推 casiohunter:Kuo 太帥啦 08/28 22:40
31F：推 minagiyu:請問有沒有Smoltz的slider被打擊率啊？ 超有興趣的:3 08/28 22:58
32F：推 sharejerry:數據才是王道～印象只會造成偏見 08/28 23:28
33F：推 twoseeds:Kuo的速球果然是王道…但其它種球種就鳥掉了... 08/29 00:16
34F：→ twoseeds:我印象中Kuo被打長打都是slider或curve ball 08/29 00:17
35F：推 Roderickey:我想看穆帥的彈指球 08/29 00:19
36F：推 Mutoh:想知道松阪的數據～～～嘻.... 08/29 00:21
37F：推 lef1986:fastball包含四縫線、二縫線和卡特球 08/29 00:37
38F：推 flyinskyline:嗯~~WOOD的滑球~~ 08/29 01:52
39F：推 Fukudome:扁食只有2種球路?? 08/29 08:41
40F：推 ARCXU:Wood曲球就很可怕了 滑球更是...... 08/29 12:30