作者abc12812 (Sudba tseloveka)
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标题Re: [分享] Baseball America's 2008 Best Tools
时间Thu Aug 28 19:17:12 2008
: BEST PITCHER
: NL AL
: 1. Brandon Webb, Diamondbacks 1. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
: 2. Tim Lincecum, Giants 2. Cliff Lee, Indians
: 3. Carlos Zambrano, Cubs 3. Josh Beckett, Red Sox
: BEST FASTBALL
: NL AL
: 1. Tim Lincecum, Giants 1. Joel Zumaya, Tigers
: 2. Ben Sheets, Brewers 2. Brandon Morrow, Mariners
: 3. Edinson Volquez, Reds 3. Joba Chamberlain, Yankees
: BEST CURVEBALL
: NL AL
: 1. Ben Sheets, Brewers 1. Josh Beckett, Red Sox
: 2. Tim Lincecum, Giants 2. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels
: 3. Cole Hamels, Phillies 3. A.J. Burnett, Blue Jays
: BEST SLIDER
: NL AL
: 1. Jake Peavy, Padres 1. Joe Nathan, Twins
: 2. Brad Lidge, Phillies 2. Scott Kazmir, Rays
: 3. John Smoltz, Braves 3. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
: BEST CHANGEUP
: NL AL
: 1. Johan Santana, Mets 1. James Shields, Rays
: 2. Cole Hamels, Phillies 2. Cliff Lee, Indians
: 3. Edinson Volquez, Reds 3. Mark Buehrle, White Sox
: BEST CONTROL
: NL AL
: 1. Dan Haren, Diamondbacks 1. Roy Halladay, Blue Jays
: 2. Greg Maddux, Padres 2. Justin Duchscherer, Athletics
: 3. Cole Hamels, Phillies 3. Mike Mussina, Yankees
提供几位明星投手的各个球种的被打击率，来比较一下
Fastball Curve Slider Changeup Other
Johan Santana .258 .236 .175
Edinson Volquez .246 .241 .360 .202
Ben Sheets
.241 .247
Brandon Webb .277 .206
.106
Tim Lincecum .257
.172 .169 .190
Dan Haren .282 .262 .201 .174(splitter)
Carlos Zambrano .260 .192 .237
Roy Halladay .264 .191 .315 .307
Cliff Lee .259 .207 .329 .294
Justin Duchscherer .259 .186 .180
Ervin Santana .282 .164 .201 .283
Scott Kazmir .243 .221 .281
Joe Saunders .269 .308 .234 .267
Brad Lidge .260 .146
Kerry Wood .243 .176
.079
Billy Wagner .224 .158
Joe Nathan .213 .164
Jonathan Papelbon
.143 .333 .189
Mariano Rivera
.217
Francisco Rodriguez .286 .090 .184 .155
Joakim Soria .209
.069 .231 .171
Kuo .194 .333 .307
: BEST RELIEVER
: NL AL
: 1. Brad Lidge, Phillies 1. Mariano Rivera, Yankees
: 2. Brian Wilson, Giants 2. Francisco Rodriguez, Angels
: 3. Kerry Wood, Cubs 3. Jonathan Papelbon, Red Sox
用WPA来看的话:
Brad Lidge 4.31
Joe Nathan 4.28
Brad Ziegler 3.76
Brian Wilson 3.60
Joakim Soria 3.49
Bobby Jenks 3.40
Francisco Rodriguez 3.29
Mariano Rivera 3.19
Scott Downs 3.12
Ron Mahay 2.81
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1F：推 HolyGhost:MO只有直球...尾劲却飞来飞去, 帅呀 08/28 19:20
2F：推 pikachu123:MO:Fastball only!! 08/28 19:37
3F：→ jack18262:MO: wut is breaking ball?? 08/28 19:51
4F：推 greengreen42:他的对手可以呛他，就是因为没变化球才会先发转後援 08/28 19:53
5F：推 steven850405:MO会呛回去 我不用变化球就把打者吃死死 08/28 19:54
6F：→ globekiller:I can't 魂!!!! 08/28 19:54
7F：推 Belladonaa:先发是0:0开始唷 08/28 19:55
8F：→ OoyaoO:我很想知道宝贝碰用直球的比率到底多高 GAMEDAY上都是连发 08/28 19:59
9F：推 shoe:有没有Kuo的？ 08/28 19:59
10F：推 KoAnne:Papelbon 直球比率大概80% 08/28 20:01
11F：推 shirlyfen:Kuo还不是CL 08/28 20:02
12F：→ abc12812:补上小小郭的数据 08/28 20:03
※ 编辑: abc12812 来自: 140.112.5.3 (08/28 20:04)
13F：推 pikachu123:Kuo直球果然很威 08/28 20:05
14F：推 KoAnne:那我补上Kuo使用比例~y 08/28 20:05
15F：推 Belladonaa:Kuo 的 WPA/LI 也排很前面 08/28 20:05
16F：→ KoAnne:Fastball 79.7% Curve 9.5% Slider 10.72% 08/28 20:06
17F：推 son8868:Kuo的速球打不到 所以专挑其他球种打吗XDD 08/28 20:11
18F：推 Emcc:这里的fastball应该不单指直球吧 应该还包含sinker cutter... 08/28 20:12
19F：推 KoAnne:Yes 大体算成直球系 08/28 20:14
※ abc12812:转录至看板 HCKuo 08/28 20:25
20F：推 s93rm6:真的不解Halladay的Slider为什麽第三>/////< 08/28 20:32
21F：推 innevertears:楼上为什麽要害羞 08/28 21:04
22F：推 Kinra:其实是 ＞(>/////<)＜ : 力争的动作 08/28 21:16
23F：推 pikachu123:假日根本不常投滑球是要争什麽= = 08/28 21:22
24F：推 son8868:所以印像很重要(茶 08/28 21:29
25F：推 pikachu123:印象才是王道 数据走开XD 08/28 21:31
26F：推 Kinra:数据只是简单加减乘除 印象是人脑复杂的运算成果!!XD 08/28 21:32
27F：推 mdfh:印象中去年的斋藤大叔好像也很扯？ 08/28 21:41
28F：推 fruittall:斋藤大叔不是六打60%挥空吗@@? 08/28 21:54
29F：→ fruittall: 右 08/28 21:54
30F：推 casiohunter:Kuo 太帅啦 08/28 22:40
31F：推 minagiyu:请问有没有Smoltz的slider被打击率啊？ 超有兴趣的:3 08/28 22:58
32F：推 sharejerry:数据才是王道～印象只会造成偏见 08/28 23:28
33F：推 twoseeds:Kuo的速球果然是王道…但其它种球种就鸟掉了... 08/29 00:16
34F：→ twoseeds:我印象中Kuo被打长打都是slider或curve ball 08/29 00:17
35F：推 Roderickey:我想看穆帅的弹指球 08/29 00:19
36F：推 Mutoh:想知道松阪的数据～～～嘻.... 08/29 00:21
37F：推 lef1986:fastball包含四缝线、二缝线和卡特球 08/29 00:37
38F：推 flyinskyline:嗯~~WOOD的滑球~~ 08/29 01:52
39F：推 Fukudome:扁食只有2种球路?? 08/29 08:41
40F：推 ARCXU:Wood曲球就很可怕了 滑球更是...... 08/29 12:30