※ 引述《RollingWave (Lost in the Dark)》之銘言： : ........... maybe not quiet as a pitcher but..... : Bannister 這幾天有在 MLBtraderumors.com 上做了一系列的Q&A, 真的很有趣. : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : My favorite quote from Maddux is: : "When they're in a jam, a lot of pitchers...try to throw harder. Me, I try to : locate better." : I have pitched with that quote in the back of my mind for my entire career. : Every pitcher is going to give up walks and hits, but the only thing that : matters at the end of the day is how many runs you give up. 我的座右銘是 Maddux 的名言： "現在很多投手，太多了，他們都嘗試想要投快點，而我只是想要投準一點" 我整個職業生涯裡頭都把這句話銘記在心 每個投手都會丟保送、被打安打，但是真正重要的是，比賽結束時，你掉了多少分 : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : Bannister: There are two things that make baseball unique from other sports. : One, baseball is a game of skill that is accentuated by the physical tools of : the person performing those skills. Most people superficially judge a position : player solely on size, strength, and speed, when his eyesight, balance, rhythm, : hand-eye coordination, and mental makeup are much more influential factors in : his future success. It is when a player embodies all of these qualities that we : get our superstars and hall-of-famers. I would much rather face a hitter with : "80" power and "80" speed but bad strike zone discipline than one with no power : and a .400+ OBP. Over the course of time, the hitter with the .400+ OBP is : going to hurt me much, much more, especially if he is surrounded by other good : hitters. Bannister：有兩件獨特的事情讓棒球跟其他的運動不一樣 第一，棒球是一門技術性的運動，強調的是肢體，然後由人的肢體來表現這項技術 多數人粗淺地依據這些條件來評斷野手：身材、力量、速度 但是影響最劇的條件卻是：選球、平衡感、節奏感、手眼協調還有心理素質 當一個選手擁有上述的所有條件時，他才是巨星，甚至是名人堂球員 我寧願面對一個 Power 80、Speed 80，但是不會選球的打者 卻不想面對一個沒有 power 上壘率卻是四成以上的打者 時間拉長來看的話，上壘率四成的打者會對我造成更大的傷害 特別是他前後棒都是好的打者的時候 : Secondly, whether you like it or not, baseball is a game of randomness. We play : outdoors (mostly) in changing elements and field dimensions, and each pitch : results in a series of events that can go in either teams favor. One thing that : I have have come to accept is that just because I train hard physically, I : practice perfectly, I prepare diligently, and execute a pitch exactly as I : wanted, it can still result in a home run. In golf, if you analyze all the : variables correctly (lie, distance, slope, wind, etc.) and execute your swing : perfectly, it will result in a great shot. Not so for a pitcher or a hitter. A : hitter can swing the bat perfectly and it will result in an out more than six : times out of ten. Therefore, as a pitcher, I study and play to put the : percentages in my favor more than anything because I know that I can't control : the outcome in a single game or series of games, but over the course of a : season or a career I will be better than average. : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 第二，不管你喜不喜歡，棒球是一門不確定的運動，我們在戶外打球(絕大部分) 面對著各種變化與不同的球場因素，投出去的每個球都牽連著一連串的事件 這些事件兩邊球隊都可能喜歡或不喜歡 (*譯按:randomness 我翻成不確定，更專業的說法或許可稱為"不可測性") 我學會接受的事情是，就算我身體方面不斷訓練，完美地訓練，勤奮的準備 接著投出一顆我想要投出的球，它還是會被擊出全壘打 在高爾夫球裡，如果你算好每個變數 (放球位置、距離、坡度、風速等) 然後完美地揮杆，你會揮出絕佳的一球 以上這些事情對投手或打者其實都是一樣的 打者可以有著完美的揮棒，但是他們十次裡頭還是得出局六次 因此，身為一個投手，我把機率作為首要考量 因為我知道我不能改變一場或一系列比賽的外在因素 但是一個球季或整個職業生涯下來，我會比起一般平均還更好 : To me, there are three types of pitchers that can be successful in the major : leagues, each for different reasons. The one thing they share in common is that : they all have a deception that makes it difficult for hitters to visually : predict where the ball will be when it enters the hitting zone. If you think : about it, a hitter does not actually see the ball hit his bat, he loses the : ball a certain distance out in front of him and has to "guess" where it will : end up. This is why repetition and good eyesight are important for a hitter, : and why as pitchers we don't want to pitch in patterns. Hitters spend hours : hitting off of pitching machines and BP pitchers, where there is no deception, : and they are very good at it. Here are the three types of pitchers I have seen : that can "deceive" Major League hitters and be successful: 對我而言，三種投手能夠在大聯盟裡成功，每個都有他們成功的原因 不過他們都有一個共同的特點，他們欺騙著打者 使得球通過本壘板時，讓打者的視線無法預測球會掉在哪裡 如果你思考一下，打者在打到球時實際上並沒有看到球 當他跟球跟到某一個距離，他就會放掉，然後猜他會掉在哪裡 這就是為什麼一個好的揮棒與好的視力對打者來說是很重要的 (*譯按:這裡的repetition由於根據前後文關係看不出來是只什麼，所以我留下空間只翻為 "好的揮棒"，不過我傾向於這樣認為:"重複練習下一個自然反應的揮棒動作") 這也是為什麼投手投球不會有一個固定的投球模式 打者花了很多時間在打發球機或餵球投手，他們也很在行，但是那沒有欺騙的成分在 這裡的三種類型投手，是我認為可以欺騙過大聯盟打者並獲得成功的 : 1. "Late Movers" - These pitchers have the ability to make the ball move in the : zone after the hitter visually loses the ball either more than the average : pitcher, in a different manner than the average pitcher, or in a completely : random manner altogether. These are pitchers that throw cut fastballs : ("cutters", such as Mariano Rivera), sinking fastballs ("sinkers", such as : Chien-Ming Wang & Fausto Carmona), split-fingered fastballs ("splitters", such : as Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, J.J. Putz & Dan Haren), knuckleballs (such as : Tim Wakefield), or from an arm angle that puts more sidespin on the ball than : backspin (such as Jake Peavy). If I could throw any pitch, it would be the : split-fingered fastball, because the movement on it is unpredictable and is : impossible to hit squarely every time. Unfortunately, it is also the most : dangerous on the arm and requires large hands to take the strain off of the : elbow. All these pitchers share the ability of having good "stuff", but their : ball moves late in the zone more than anyone else in the game and is never : straight. 1. 延遲變化型的投手 (尾勁型) - 這類型的投手的能力是在打者放掉跟球的距離之內 比一般平均的投手還更能使球變化，變化的方法不是更大的變化，就是不同的變化 或者是完全隨機的變化(*譯按:這段要感謝H版友指正^^) 這些類型的投手丟的是 cut fastballs (像 Mariano Rivera 的 "卡特球" ) sinking fastballs (像王建民和 Fausto Carmona 的 "伸卡球") split-fingered fastballs (像 Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, J.J. Putz 和 Dan Haren 的"快速指叉球") knuckleballs (像 Tim Wakefield 的"蝴蝶球") 或者是利用手臂的角度來產生更多的側旋轉來取代正旋轉 (像 Jake Peavy) 如果我可以丟任何上述一種的球種，我會丟快速指叉球 因為他的變化(尾勁)是無法預測，而且不可能每次都擊中球心的 不幸的是，這是對手臂最危險的一種球，你需要一隻大手才能減輕你的手肘的負擔 但是它的變化在所有球種裡是最晚開始發生的，而且永遠不會是直的 : 2. "Risers" - These pitchers are the most exciting to watch in baseball, : because they have the appearance of "blowing away" hitters. To be a "riser", : you have to have exceptional lower body flexibility and be able to pitch under : control with a long stride. What "risers" do that other pitchers can't is they : throw the ball on a plane with more upward tilt than average. In other words, : their fastball appears to "rise" as passes through the hitting zone. What is : actually happening is the hitter sees the ball, and he predicts that it is : going to be lower based on past experience than it actually is. Pitchers that : have this unique ability include: Josh Beckett, Jonathan Papelbon, John Maine, : Scott Kazmir, Chris Young, Pedro Martinez, and my all-time favorite in this : category, Nolan Ryan. 2. 上升型投手 (火球型) - 這類型的投手是看球時最令人感到興奮的，因為他們表現出那種"轟炸"打者的氣勢 作為一個上升型的投手，你必須要有絕佳的下盤柔軟度，並在大跨步之下還能控制你的球 上升型的投手與一般投手不同之處在於，他們球路水平面上揚的傾斜度比一般平均投手高 換句話說，他們的快速球通過好球帶時看起來像是上升了 但是實際上的情形是，打者依據過去經驗預測到的球的位置，比實際上球通過的位置還低 擁有這種獨特能力的投手包括 Josh Beckett, Jonathan Papelbon, John Maine, Scott Kazmir, Chris Young, Pedro Martinez, 還有我這類型中我的最愛 Nolan Ryan : 3. "Deceivers" - These pitchers have a unique pitching motion that hides the : ball longer than the average pitcher or makes it difficult for the hitter to : determine the actual speed of the pitch. Most often, these pitchers are : left-handed and stride across their body more than the average pitcher. Young : pitchers can work on their deception by trying to keep their front shoulder : closed longer, bringing their lead arm/glove in front of their release point, : and making sure their throwing arm stays hidden behind the body. Pitchers that : have mastered the art of deception are: Johan Santana, Tom Glavine, Erik Bedard : , C.C. Sabathia, Oliver Perez, and my favorite deceiver/late mover hybrid, Greg : Maddux. 3. 欺騙型的投手 (智慧型) - 這類型的投手擁有獨特的投球動作，使得他們隱藏球的時間比一般平均投手還長 或是讓打者無法確定球的實際速度 這些投手絕大部分都是左投而且擁有比較封閉的跨步 年輕的投手可以利用較長相對肩的閉鎖時間來達到欺騙的效果 (*譯按:相對肩 - 右投的左肩、左投的右肩) 使得他們的相對手/手套在他們的放球點前面，來確使他們的慣用手藏在他們身體背後 這些欺騙的大師分別是：Johan Santana, Tom Glavine, Erik Beda, C.C. Sabathia, Oliver Perez, 還有我最愛的欺騙型/延遲變化型混合的 Greg Maddux : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Quick, someone hire him for GM! 原PO：快，誰來聘請他當 GM！ ******* 最後面許多專有名詞是用我自己的方式下去翻的，希望大家不要介意 QQ" 另外三種類型的投手我偏向照原字義下去翻，後面括號在補充棒球裡較常見的用法 會翻這篇是因為我滿喜歡 Bannister 的，而且有提到王建民 XD 希望大家有看有推，不是要騙推文啦，讓我知道一下有多少人看過也算是小小鼓勵 :$ -- PTT = People Talking Trash --

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