※ 引述《RollingWave (Lost in the Dark)》之铭言： : ........... maybe not quiet as a pitcher but..... : Bannister 这几天有在 MLBtraderumors.com 上做了一系列的Q&A, 真的很有趣. : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : My favorite quote from Maddux is: : "When they're in a jam, a lot of pitchers...try to throw harder. Me, I try to : locate better." : I have pitched with that quote in the back of my mind for my entire career. : Every pitcher is going to give up walks and hits, but the only thing that : matters at the end of the day is how many runs you give up. 我的座右铭是 Maddux 的名言： "现在很多投手，太多了，他们都尝试想要投快点，而我只是想要投准一点" 我整个职业生涯里头都把这句话铭记在心 每个投手都会丢保送、被打安打，但是真正重要的是，比赛结束时，你掉了多少分 : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : Bannister: There are two things that make baseball unique from other sports. : One, baseball is a game of skill that is accentuated by the physical tools of : the person performing those skills. Most people superficially judge a position : player solely on size, strength, and speed, when his eyesight, balance, rhythm, : hand-eye coordination, and mental makeup are much more influential factors in : his future success. It is when a player embodies all of these qualities that we : get our superstars and hall-of-famers. I would much rather face a hitter with : "80" power and "80" speed but bad strike zone discipline than one with no power : and a .400+ OBP. Over the course of time, the hitter with the .400+ OBP is : going to hurt me much, much more, especially if he is surrounded by other good : hitters. Bannister：有两件独特的事情让棒球跟其他的运动不一样 第一，棒球是一门技术性的运动，强调的是肢体，然後由人的肢体来表现这项技术 多数人粗浅地依据这些条件来评断野手：身材、力量、速度 但是影响最剧的条件却是：选球、平衡感、节奏感、手眼协调还有心理素质 当一个选手拥有上述的所有条件时，他才是巨星，甚至是名人堂球员 我宁愿面对一个 Power 80、Speed 80，但是不会选球的打者 却不想面对一个没有 power 上垒率却是四成以上的打者 时间拉长来看的话，上垒率四成的打者会对我造成更大的伤害 特别是他前後棒都是好的打者的时候 : Secondly, whether you like it or not, baseball is a game of randomness. We play : outdoors (mostly) in changing elements and field dimensions, and each pitch : results in a series of events that can go in either teams favor. One thing that : I have have come to accept is that just because I train hard physically, I : practice perfectly, I prepare diligently, and execute a pitch exactly as I : wanted, it can still result in a home run. In golf, if you analyze all the : variables correctly (lie, distance, slope, wind, etc.) and execute your swing : perfectly, it will result in a great shot. Not so for a pitcher or a hitter. A : hitter can swing the bat perfectly and it will result in an out more than six : times out of ten. Therefore, as a pitcher, I study and play to put the : percentages in my favor more than anything because I know that I can't control : the outcome in a single game or series of games, but over the course of a : season or a career I will be better than average. : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 第二，不管你喜不喜欢，棒球是一门不确定的运动，我们在户外打球(绝大部分) 面对着各种变化与不同的球场因素，投出去的每个球都牵连着一连串的事件 这些事件两边球队都可能喜欢或不喜欢 (*译按:randomness 我翻成不确定，更专业的说法或许可称为"不可测性") 我学会接受的事情是，就算我身体方面不断训练，完美地训练，勤奋的准备 接着投出一颗我想要投出的球，它还是会被击出全垒打 在高尔夫球里，如果你算好每个变数 (放球位置、距离、坡度、风速等) 然後完美地挥杆，你会挥出绝佳的一球 以上这些事情对投手或打者其实都是一样的 打者可以有着完美的挥棒，但是他们十次里头还是得出局六次 因此，身为一个投手，我把机率作为首要考量 因为我知道我不能改变一场或一系列比赛的外在因素 但是一个球季或整个职业生涯下来，我会比起一般平均还更好 : To me, there are three types of pitchers that can be successful in the major : leagues, each for different reasons. The one thing they share in common is that : they all have a deception that makes it difficult for hitters to visually : predict where the ball will be when it enters the hitting zone. If you think : about it, a hitter does not actually see the ball hit his bat, he loses the : ball a certain distance out in front of him and has to "guess" where it will : end up. This is why repetition and good eyesight are important for a hitter, : and why as pitchers we don't want to pitch in patterns. Hitters spend hours : hitting off of pitching machines and BP pitchers, where there is no deception, : and they are very good at it. Here are the three types of pitchers I have seen : that can "deceive" Major League hitters and be successful: 对我而言，三种投手能够在大联盟里成功，每个都有他们成功的原因 不过他们都有一个共同的特点，他们欺骗着打者 使得球通过本垒板时，让打者的视线无法预测球会掉在哪里 如果你思考一下，打者在打到球时实际上并没有看到球 当他跟球跟到某一个距离，他就会放掉，然後猜他会掉在哪里 这就是为什麽一个好的挥棒与好的视力对打者来说是很重要的 (*译按:这里的repetition由於根据前後文关系看不出来是只什麽，所以我留下空间只翻为 "好的挥棒"，不过我倾向於这样认为:"重复练习下一个自然反应的挥棒动作") 这也是为什麽投手投球不会有一个固定的投球模式 打者花了很多时间在打发球机或喂球投手，他们也很在行，但是那没有欺骗的成分在 这里的三种类型投手，是我认为可以欺骗过大联盟打者并获得成功的 : 1. "Late Movers" - These pitchers have the ability to make the ball move in the : zone after the hitter visually loses the ball either more than the average : pitcher, in a different manner than the average pitcher, or in a completely : random manner altogether. These are pitchers that throw cut fastballs : ("cutters", such as Mariano Rivera), sinking fastballs ("sinkers", such as : Chien-Ming Wang & Fausto Carmona), split-fingered fastballs ("splitters", such : as Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, J.J. Putz & Dan Haren), knuckleballs (such as : Tim Wakefield), or from an arm angle that puts more sidespin on the ball than : backspin (such as Jake Peavy). If I could throw any pitch, it would be the : split-fingered fastball, because the movement on it is unpredictable and is : impossible to hit squarely every time. Unfortunately, it is also the most : dangerous on the arm and requires large hands to take the strain off of the : elbow. All these pitchers share the ability of having good "stuff", but their : ball moves late in the zone more than anyone else in the game and is never : straight. 1. 延迟变化型的投手 (尾劲型) - 这类型的投手的能力是在打者放掉跟球的距离之内 比一般平均的投手还更能使球变化，变化的方法不是更大的变化，就是不同的变化 或者是完全随机的变化(*译按:这段要感谢H版友指正^^) 这些类型的投手丢的是 cut fastballs (像 Mariano Rivera 的 "卡特球" ) sinking fastballs (像王建民和 Fausto Carmona 的 "伸卡球") split-fingered fastballs (像 Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, J.J. Putz 和 Dan Haren 的"快速指叉球") knuckleballs (像 Tim Wakefield 的"蝴蝶球") 或者是利用手臂的角度来产生更多的侧旋转来取代正旋转 (像 Jake Peavy) 如果我可以丢任何上述一种的球种，我会丢快速指叉球 因为他的变化(尾劲)是无法预测，而且不可能每次都击中球心的 不幸的是，这是对手臂最危险的一种球，你需要一只大手才能减轻你的手肘的负担 但是它的变化在所有球种里是最晚开始发生的，而且永远不会是直的 : 2. "Risers" - These pitchers are the most exciting to watch in baseball, : because they have the appearance of "blowing away" hitters. To be a "riser", : you have to have exceptional lower body flexibility and be able to pitch under : control with a long stride. What "risers" do that other pitchers can't is they : throw the ball on a plane with more upward tilt than average. In other words, : their fastball appears to "rise" as passes through the hitting zone. What is : actually happening is the hitter sees the ball, and he predicts that it is : going to be lower based on past experience than it actually is. Pitchers that : have this unique ability include: Josh Beckett, Jonathan Papelbon, John Maine, : Scott Kazmir, Chris Young, Pedro Martinez, and my all-time favorite in this : category, Nolan Ryan. 2. 上升型投手 (火球型) - 这类型的投手是看球时最令人感到兴奋的，因为他们表现出那种"轰炸"打者的气势 作为一个上升型的投手，你必须要有绝佳的下盘柔软度，并在大跨步之下还能控制你的球 上升型的投手与一般投手不同之处在於，他们球路水平面上扬的倾斜度比一般平均投手高 换句话说，他们的快速球通过好球带时看起来像是上升了 但是实际上的情形是，打者依据过去经验预测到的球的位置，比实际上球通过的位置还低 拥有这种独特能力的投手包括 Josh Beckett, Jonathan Papelbon, John Maine, Scott Kazmir, Chris Young, Pedro Martinez, 还有我这类型中我的最爱 Nolan Ryan : 3. "Deceivers" - These pitchers have a unique pitching motion that hides the : ball longer than the average pitcher or makes it difficult for the hitter to : determine the actual speed of the pitch. Most often, these pitchers are : left-handed and stride across their body more than the average pitcher. Young : pitchers can work on their deception by trying to keep their front shoulder : closed longer, bringing their lead arm/glove in front of their release point, : and making sure their throwing arm stays hidden behind the body. Pitchers that : have mastered the art of deception are: Johan Santana, Tom Glavine, Erik Bedard : , C.C. Sabathia, Oliver Perez, and my favorite deceiver/late mover hybrid, Greg : Maddux. 3. 欺骗型的投手 (智慧型) - 这类型的投手拥有独特的投球动作，使得他们隐藏球的时间比一般平均投手还长 或是让打者无法确定球的实际速度 这些投手绝大部分都是左投而且拥有比较封闭的跨步 年轻的投手可以利用较长相对肩的闭锁时间来达到欺骗的效果 (*译按:相对肩 - 右投的左肩、左投的右肩) 使得他们的相对手/手套在他们的放球点前面，来确使他们的惯用手藏在他们身体背後 这些欺骗的大师分别是：Johan Santana, Tom Glavine, Erik Beda, C.C. Sabathia, Oliver Perez, 还有我最爱的欺骗型/延迟变化型混合的 Greg Maddux : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Quick, someone hire him for GM! 原PO：快，谁来聘请他当 GM！ ******* 最後面许多专有名词是用我自己的方式下去翻的，希望大家不要介意 QQ" 另外三种类型的投手我偏向照原字义下去翻，後面括号在补充棒球里较常见的用法 会翻这篇是因为我满喜欢 Bannister 的，而且有提到王建民 XD 希望大家有看有推，不是要骗推文啦，让我知道一下有多少人看过也算是小小鼓励 :$ -- PTT = People Talking Trash --

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