作者edward0216 (艾德華)
看板Linguistics
標題[請益] "ever"的樹圖
時間Fri Jul 22 23:46:58 2011
在解題的時候碰到一個有關ever的用法的問題，其中他先給ever的用法說明如下:
“Ever” cannot normally occur in positive sentence.
“Ever” is an adjectival expression (ADVP) which occurs as an immediate
constituent of S. in negative sentences, “ever” must be preceded and
c-commanded by a negative constituent (e.g. by a negative Modal, or by a Noun
Phrase containing the negative Determiner “no” as one of its immediate
constituents.
然後給了一個ungrammatic的句子，要畫樹圖來解題。
Q:
*Some Frenchmen would help no Englishman ever
我畫的圖感覺怪怪的，我是這樣畫的:
S
/ | \
/ M \
/ | \
NP would \
| VP
Some Frenchmen / \
/ \
V NP
| / \
help / \
/ \
no Englishman \
\
ADVP
|
ADV
|
ever
如果是長這樣的話，
no Englishman c-commands ever!!!
不就合他的規則了嗎?
有請高手指點一下!謝謝!
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1F：推 starwish07:不合語法的句子不是不能用樹狀圖來表示嗎? 07/23 00:18
2F：→ edward0216:!!!真的哦!!??我不知道這件事耶Orz 07/23 00:36
3F：→ edward0216:可是他要我畫樹來解耶!? 07/23 00:36
4F：→ edward0216:show how the condition account for the 07/23 00:38
5F：→ edward0216:(un)grammaticality of the following sentences, 07/23 00:39
6F：→ edward0216:assuming the well-formedness judgments given (draw 07/23 00:39
7F：→ edward0216:tree-diagrams to illustrate your answer) 07/23 00:40
8F：推 starwish07:= =|||........ 07/23 00:55
9F：→ edward0216:??? 07/23 01:41
10F：推 layles:我覺得ever不會去修飾no englishman，所以ever位置擺錯了。 07/23 02:11
11F：推 twowugs:你要仔細看說明啊，ever is licensed by an negative 07/23 05:49
12F：→ twowugs:polarity item, e.g. no Englishman，所以你的tree要能指 07/23 05:49
13F：→ twowugs:ever沒有被no Englishman c-command，也就是你現在這個 07/23 05:50
14F：→ twowugs:tree是不行的，因為它predict這個句子grammatical 07/23 05:50
15F：→ twowugs:並不是不合語法的句子就不能有一個假設的結構，很多時候你 07/23 06:03
16F：→ twowugs:要透過那個結構才容易看到問題在哪，像是ever有沒有被 07/23 06:04
17F：→ twowugs:negative polarity licensor c-command (我上面打錯， 07/23 06:05
18F：→ twowugs:ever是negative polarity item，no__這些才是licensor) 07/23 06:05
19F：→ starwish07:推樓上專業!!! 07/23 12:39
20F：→ edward0216:想請問ever要放哪才合適？我找不到其他好地方。煩請 07/23 13:42
21F：→ edward0216:指點！ 07/23 13:42
22F：推 twowugs:如果我沒意會錯的話，說明第一句有說"ever" is an 07/23 13:49
23F：→ twowugs:immediate constituent of S (雖然我覺得這樣畫是很怪啦 07/23 13:49
24F：→ twowugs:不過反正說明都這樣講了...這樣畫應該也符合這題的目的) 07/23 13:50
25F：→ edward0216:謝謝!!!我這樣畫了!真的怪很XD 不過也可以解啦~ 07/23 15:46
26F：推 layles:當時看到題意也覺得這樣畫很怪~不知道在畫什麼意思的@@ 07/24 23:16