作者oldfat (老巴)
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標題[外電] The 30 best international players in the NBA today
時間Sun Mar 30 14:17:32 2008
原文網址
http://0rz.tw/5b3QM
By John Hollinger
ESPN Insider
Updated: March 28, 2008, 2:12 PM ET
It's an international game these days, as everyone keeps reminding us, and a
look at the past few MVP winners in the NBA only reinforces that point. Would
you believe that in the past six seasons, only one MVP was born in the 50
United States?
NBA如今已是國際性的比賽 而回首過去的幾位MVP得主更強調了這點 你相信過去的6個
球季只有1位MVP得主是在美國的50個州之中出生的嗎
(這位是03-04的KG)
This year will make it two out of seven -- all the leading contenders are
American -- but it underscores the point that this has been the decade of the
internationals in pro basketball.
今年很可能誕生7年來的第2位美國土產的MVP 所有的有力競爭者都是美國人 但這也強
調了這10年來國際球員的崛起
And with that in mind, it's time to revisit last year's list of the top 30
international players.
是時候我們重新檢視一下去年的30位最傑出的國際球員
Before we get to the rankings, let's revisit the ground rules. We're looking
at players born outside of the 50 U.S. states, which means the likes of Tim
Duncan (U.S. Virgin Islands) and Carlos Arroyo (Puerto Rico) count -- if you
want to get into a semantic debate about their American-ness, take it up with
the NBA, which lists both players as internationals.
以下說明規則 排名的球員必須是非美國本土出生 但可以有美國籍
Second, we've listed each player with his country of birth -- last year it
jolted some folks to see the South African flag next to Steve Nash's name, but
he was actually born in Johannesburg.
列出每位球員的生日及出生地
(原來Nash是南非約翰尼斯堡出生的@@)
Finally, there's the most vexing part of the debate -- what we mean when we
say Player X is "better" than Player Y. To make this list, my golden rule was
choosing which player I would want most if I could only have them for the next
six months. But I'll get into the nitty-gritty of player vs. player
comparisons as we get into the list.
作者的排名標準是接下來的半年內他最想要哪位球員 不過他還是會作球員間的比較
Now, onto the list:(以下只翻譯耶穌和跳跳虎的部分)
1. 叮噹肯
2. 挪威司機
3. Nash
4. 鬼之切入
5. 姚明
6. Pau Gasol, Los Angeles Lakers
Age: 27 Position: Center
Birth Date: 07/06/80 NBA experience: 7 years
Born: Barcelona, Spain 2007-08 PER: 21.47
One of the league's most consistently underrated players while toiling for the
Memphis Grizzlies, Gasol is now in the limelight thanks to his recent trade to
the L.A. Lakers. As with Yao, he has had injury problems, missing 26, 2, 23
and 16 (and counting) games the past four seasons.
因灰熊的爛戰績而成為聯盟中最受到低估的球員之一 不過拜交易到湖人之賜 他現在是
萬眾注目的焦點 和姚明一樣 他有著傷病問題 過去4個球季分別缺席26,2,23,16場比賽
But he's shown the ability to carry teams by himself, both in the NBA (leading
a fairly benign Memphis team to a 50-win season) and at the international
level (carrying Spain to the world championship in 2007). Additionally, his
six straight seasons with a 20-plus PER speaks to his consistency. If he were
a more capable defender, he'd rank ahead of Yao and Manu.
但是他在NBA(帶領灰熊50勝)和國際級的比賽(帶領西班牙拿下2007年歐洲男子籃球錦標
賽冠軍)都展現了他獨自帶領球隊的能力 此外 他連續6個球季*PER皆大於20也說明了他
的穩定 如果他是個更可靠的防守者 他的名次將會超越姚明和鬼剃頭
*Player Efficiency Rating 原作者自創的一種統計數據 總之就是把球員的正面表現(
得分籃板助攻etc)扣掉負面表現(投籃不進 失誤etc)再除以上場時間(以分計)
計算方式請洽
http://0rz.tw/4232P 有點複雜 感謝待會要出門把妹的Kreen補充
7. T趴
8. Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors
9. 大Z
10. 滷蛋
11. 土耳其火槍兵
12. AK47
13. Andris Biedrins, Golden State
14. 百步殺
15. Mehmet Okur, Utah Jazz
16. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee Bucks
17. 狗蛋
18. Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia 76ers
19. Peja
20. Luis Scola, Houston Rockets
21. Andres Nocioni, Chicago Bulls
22. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks
23. Anderson Varejao, Cleveland Cavaliers
24. Nene, Denver Nuggets
25. Ronny Turiaf, Los Angeles Lakers
Age: 25 Position: Center
Birth Date: 01/13/83 NBA experience: 3 years
Born: Le Robert, France 2007-08 PER: 15.34
The energetic Frenchman is one of the league's most underrated big men, with a
penchant for shot-blocking and a nose for scoring around the basket. What
keeps him down here on the list is his equally strong penchant for fouling,
which is the drawback to all that energy he plays with -- he averages a
personal every 7.5 minutes.
這位充滿能量的法國人是聯盟最被低估的長人之一 他有阻攻的強烈企圖心和籃框附近
得分的敏銳 使他排名較低的原因是他犯規累積得太快 這是他的拼勁造成的反饋 他平均
每7.5分鐘就犯一次規
26. Raja Bell, Phoenix Suns
27. Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings
28. Wally Szczerbiak, Cleveland Cavaliers
29. Rasho Nesterovic, Toronto Raptors
30. Carlos Delfino, Toronto Raptors
The last of the sizable Argentine contingent on this list, Delfino nosed out
Sasha Vujacic, Kelenna Azubuike, Beno Udrih, Linas Kleiza, Boris Diaw,
Fabricio Oberto and Nenad Krstic for the final spot in the top 30. Though he's
only hitting 39.6 percent from the floor, his true shooting percentage is
actually decent because he hits 48.5 percent on 3s and takes nearly half his
shots from out there. Additionally, he's a quality defender and ball handler
-- a rarity once you get this far down the list.
排行榜上身居末位的Delfino指出還有許多選手包括我們家殺殺有資格來爭取這個位子
後面無關就不翻了
可惜殺殺沒上榜 殘念
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1F:推 Kreen:後面那句意思是:這並不表示國際球員的影響力下降? 03/30 14:23
2F:推 goldenlen:推~ 03/30 14:27
3F:推 smaillove:應該是說這十年來 美國本土球員拿到MVP的產量還是輸給 03/30 14:27
4F:→ smaillove:國際球員 03/30 14:28
5F:推 smaillove:我發現我錯了 囧 underscores<<< 強調 03/30 14:30
6F:→ oldfat:不太懂他為啥特別強調10年 以為有特別意義@@" 03/30 14:30
7F:→ smaillove:Kreen翻的比較接近原意... 03/30 14:31
8F:→ smaillove:應該是說 這突顯出國際球員近十年的表現有目共睹之類的 03/30 14:32
9F:→ oldfat:這樣? 03/30 14:33
10F:→ oldfat:那PER有人知道是啥嗎@@ 03/30 14:34
11F:→ smaillove:很接近了吧 等晚一點d老師上線吧...XD 03/30 14:34
12F:推 weian:18名大懶伯比 Peja 還高,真殺.... 03/30 14:37
13F:推 Kreen:PER 是一種籃球統計數據,定義我忘了,但是越高越好。 03/30 14:37
14F:推 caves:Player Efficiency Rating 03/30 14:42
15F:推 Kreen:我找到 PER 了,是 Player Efficiency Rating,計算方式在 03/30 14:42
17F:→ Kreen:有興趣可以順便翻一下。XD 03/30 14:42
18F:推 smaillove:我推薦Kreen來翻XD 03/30 14:44
19F:→ Kreen:我要出門了= = smaillove加油! 03/30 14:44
20F:推 TsungHan:又要出門把妹了.....XD 03/30 14:45
21F:→ smaillove:我看不懂啊= =+ 那公式有點複雜.... 03/30 14:45
22F:→ oldfat:寫大意就好吧= = 不然也只能把公式貼上來 沒意思@@a" 03/30 14:45
23F:→ Kreen:我期待 TsungHan 的翻譯很久了~(支持推) 03/30 14:46
24F:推 TsungHan:那個公式是哪個鬼想出來的..... 03/30 14:52
25F:→ smaillove:這篇外電的原作者想出來的啊XD 03/30 14:53
26F:→ oldfat:寫這篇文章的人 03/30 14:53
28F:→ oldfat:連照片都挖出來了=口= 03/30 14:57
29F:→ TsungHan:不過PER對中鋒好像很有利,前幾名大多是中鋒,第一名是怪物 03/30 14:56
30F:→ oldfat:不管是什麼統計數據好像都還是長人比較有利 03/30 14:58
31F:推 TsungHan:原來Wally,Gordon都不是本土出生 XD 03/30 15:04
※ 編輯: oldfat 來自: 140.112.245.94 (03/30 16:01)