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原文网址http://0rz.tw/5b3QM By John Hollinger ESPN Insider Updated: March 28, 2008, 2:12 PM ET It's an international game these days, as everyone keeps reminding us, and a look at the past few MVP winners in the NBA only reinforces that point. Would you believe that in the past six seasons, only one MVP was born in the 50 United States? NBA如今已是国际性的比赛 而回首过去的几位MVP得主更强调了这点 你相信过去的6个 球季只有1位MVP得主是在美国的50个州之中出生的吗 (这位是03-04的KG) This year will make it two out of seven -- all the leading contenders are American -- but it underscores the point that this has been the decade of the internationals in pro basketball. 今年很可能诞生7年来的第2位美国土产的MVP 所有的有力竞争者都是美国人 但这也强 调了这10年来国际球员的崛起 And with that in mind, it's time to revisit last year's list of the top 30 international players. 是时候我们重新检视一下去年的30位最杰出的国际球员 Before we get to the rankings, let's revisit the ground rules. We're looking at players born outside of the 50 U.S. states, which means the likes of Tim Duncan (U.S. Virgin Islands) and Carlos Arroyo (Puerto Rico) count -- if you want to get into a semantic debate about their American-ness, take it up with the NBA, which lists both players as internationals. 以下说明规则 排名的球员必须是非美国本土出生 但可以有美国籍 Second, we've listed each player with his country of birth -- last year it jolted some folks to see the South African flag next to Steve Nash's name, but he was actually born in Johannesburg. 列出每位球员的生日及出生地 (原来Nash是南非约翰尼斯堡出生的@@) Finally, there's the most vexing part of the debate -- what we mean when we say Player X is "better" than Player Y. To make this list, my golden rule was choosing which player I would want most if I could only have them for the next six months. But I'll get into the nitty-gritty of player vs. player comparisons as we get into the list. 作者的排名标准是接下来的半年内他最想要哪位球员 不过他还是会作球员间的比较 Now, onto the list:(以下只翻译耶稣和跳跳虎的部分) 1. 叮当肯 2. 挪威司机 3. Nash 4. 鬼之切入 5. 姚明 6. Pau Gasol, Los Angeles Lakers Age: 27 Position: Center Birth Date: 07/06/80 NBA experience: 7 years Born: Barcelona, Spain 2007-08 PER: 21.47 One of the league's most consistently underrated players while toiling for the Memphis Grizzlies, Gasol is now in the limelight thanks to his recent trade to the L.A. Lakers. As with Yao, he has had injury problems, missing 26, 2, 23 and 16 (and counting) games the past four seasons. 因灰熊的烂战绩而成为联盟中最受到低估的球员之一 不过拜交易到湖人之赐 他现在是 万众注目的焦点 和姚明一样 他有着伤病问题 过去4个球季分别缺席26,2,23,16场比赛 But he's shown the ability to carry teams by himself, both in the NBA (leading a fairly benign Memphis team to a 50-win season) and at the international level (carrying Spain to the world championship in 2007). Additionally, his six straight seasons with a 20-plus PER speaks to his consistency. If he were a more capable defender, he'd rank ahead of Yao and Manu. 但是他在NBA(带领灰熊50胜)和国际级的比赛(带领西班牙拿下2007年欧洲男子篮球锦标 赛冠军)都展现了他独自带领球队的能力 此外 他连续6个球季*PER皆大於20也说明了他 的稳定 如果他是个更可靠的防守者 他的名次将会超越姚明和鬼剃头 *Player Efficiency Rating 原作者自创的一种统计数据 总之就是把球员的正面表现( 得分篮板助攻etc)扣掉负面表现(投篮不进 失误etc)再除以上场时间(以分计) 计算方式请洽http://0rz.tw/4232P 有点复杂 感谢待会要出门把妹的Kreen补充 7. T趴 8. Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors 9. 大Z 10. 卤蛋 11. 土耳其火枪兵 12. AK47 13. Andris Biedrins, Golden State 14. 百步杀 15. Mehmet Okur, Utah Jazz 16. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee Bucks 17. 狗蛋 18. Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia 76ers 19. Peja 20. Luis Scola, Houston Rockets 21. Andres Nocioni, Chicago Bulls 22. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks 23. Anderson Varejao, Cleveland Cavaliers 24. Nene, Denver Nuggets 25. Ronny Turiaf, Los Angeles Lakers Age: 25 Position: Center Birth Date: 01/13/83 NBA experience: 3 years Born: Le Robert, France 2007-08 PER: 15.34 The energetic Frenchman is one of the league's most underrated big men, with a penchant for shot-blocking and a nose for scoring around the basket. What keeps him down here on the list is his equally strong penchant for fouling, which is the drawback to all that energy he plays with -- he averages a personal every 7.5 minutes. 这位充满能量的法国人是联盟最被低估的长人之一 他有阻攻的强烈企图心和篮框附近 得分的敏锐 使他排名较低的原因是他犯规累积得太快 这是他的拼劲造成的反馈 他平均 每7.5分钟就犯一次规 26. Raja Bell, Phoenix Suns 27. Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings 28. Wally Szczerbiak, Cleveland Cavaliers 29. Rasho Nesterovic, Toronto Raptors 30. Carlos Delfino, Toronto Raptors The last of the sizable Argentine contingent on this list, Delfino nosed out Sasha Vujacic, Kelenna Azubuike, Beno Udrih, Linas Kleiza, Boris Diaw, Fabricio Oberto and Nenad Krstic for the final spot in the top 30. Though he's only hitting 39.6 percent from the floor, his true shooting percentage is actually decent because he hits 48.5 percent on 3s and takes nearly half his shots from out there. Additionally, he's a quality defender and ball handler -- a rarity once you get this far down the list. 排行榜上身居末位的Delfino指出还有许多选手包括我们家杀杀有资格来争取这个位子 後面无关就不翻了 可惜杀杀没上榜 残念 --



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1F:推 Kreen:後面那句意思是:这并不表示国际球员的影响力下降? 03/30 14:23
2F:推 goldenlen:推~ 03/30 14:27
3F:推 smaillove:应该是说这十年来 美国本土球员拿到MVP的产量还是输给 03/30 14:27
4F:→ smaillove:国际球员 03/30 14:28
5F:推 smaillove:我发现我错了 囧 underscores<<< 强调 03/30 14:30
6F:→ oldfat:不太懂他为啥特别强调10年 以为有特别意义@@" 03/30 14:30
7F:→ smaillove:Kreen翻的比较接近原意... 03/30 14:31
8F:→ smaillove:应该是说 这突显出国际球员近十年的表现有目共睹之类的 03/30 14:32
9F:→ oldfat:这样? 03/30 14:33
10F:→ oldfat:那PER有人知道是啥吗@@ 03/30 14:34
11F:→ smaillove:很接近了吧 等晚一点d老师上线吧...XD 03/30 14:34
12F:推 weian:18名大懒伯比 Peja 还高,真杀.... 03/30 14:37
13F:推 Kreen:PER 是一种篮球统计数据,定义我忘了,但是越高越好。 03/30 14:37
14F:推 caves:Player Efficiency Rating 03/30 14:42
15F:推 Kreen:我找到 PER 了,是 Player Efficiency Rating,计算方式在 03/30 14:42
16F:→ Kreen:http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/per.html 这里 03/30 14:42
17F:→ Kreen:有兴趣可以顺便翻一下。XD 03/30 14:42
18F:推 smaillove:我推荐Kreen来翻XD 03/30 14:44
19F:→ Kreen:我要出门了= = smaillove加油! 03/30 14:44
20F:推 TsungHan:又要出门把妹了.....XD 03/30 14:45
21F:→ smaillove:我看不懂啊= =+ 那公式有点复杂.... 03/30 14:45
22F:→ oldfat:写大意就好吧= = 不然也只能把公式贴上来 没意思@@a" 03/30 14:45
23F:→ Kreen:我期待 TsungHan 的翻译很久了~(支持推) 03/30 14:46
24F:推 TsungHan:那个公式是哪个鬼想出来的..... 03/30 14:52
25F:→ smaillove:这篇外电的原作者想出来的啊XD 03/30 14:53
26F:→ oldfat:写这篇文章的人 03/30 14:53
27F:推 TsungHan:http://0rz.tw/603Pz 这家伙很闲....XD 03/30 14:55
28F:→ oldfat:连照片都挖出来了=口= 03/30 14:57
29F:→ TsungHan:不过PER对中锋好像很有利,前几名大多是中锋,第一名是怪物 03/30 14:56
30F:→ oldfat:不管是什麽统计数据好像都还是长人比较有利 03/30 14:58
31F:推 TsungHan:原来Wally,Gordon都不是本土出生 XD 03/30 15:04
※ 编辑: oldfat 来自: 140.112.245.94 (03/30 16:01)







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