作者Paraguay (巴拉圭)
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標題[外電] LBJ或許會是史上第一?
時間Sat May 4 00:56:26 2013
※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1HWuib8X ]
作者: KKyosuke (春日恭介) 看板: NBA
標題: [外絮] LBJ或許會是史上第一?
時間: Fri May 3 18:02:10 2013
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LeBron James will be awarded the NBA’s Most Valuable Player award sometime
next week. I don’t have a vote nor any inside information on the voting
process, but it’s as easy a call as expecting May to provide warmer weather
as the month moves along, or predicting that Kelly Dwyer will probably give
some stupid hipster in a hat a withering glare around last call this Sunday
morning. It’s going to happen.
在下周的某個時候 LBJ應該會獲得本季的MVP 雖然作者沒有投票權 但是這顯而易見
What is nearly as assured is the potential for LeBron James to become the
first unanimous MVP selection in NBA history. After a season like LeBron’s it
’s entirely possible, and certainly appropriate. And it’s also
unprecedented due to the work of one man, former CNN and ESPN anchor Fred
Hickman, who decided to cast an MVP vote for Allen Iverson in 2000, denying
Shaquille O’Neal a deserved unanimous voting record.
或許應該關心的是 LBJ會不會是第一個全票第一名當選的MVP
以LBJ今年以及熱火今年的表現來看 這極有可能
當然 這件事之所以會是史無前例的 也是因為當年CNN及ESPN作家Fred Hickman在MVP
投票時選了AI而非Shaq當第一名 而讓Shaq沒有獲得這項榮譽
FOX Sports’ Chris Tomasson caught up with Hickman recently to discuss the
fallout of that non-event:
Fox體育的Chris Tomasson在那之後找到了Hickman討論這件事
“It was crazy,’’ Hickman remembers about the fallout. “I got death
threats.’’
Hickman, now sports director for WVUE-TV in New Orleans, doesn’t have a
ballot this season. If he did, he said he would vote for James and believes
the Miami Heat star should be a unanimous pick.
"這太瘋狂了" Hickman回憶 "我當時甚至收到了死亡威脅"
Hickman今年沒有投票權 但他說如果他有的話他會投給LBJ 而且相信LBJ會以全票獲選
“The morning it went public (that O’Neal won the MVP), I was taking my son
to school,’’ Hickman recalls. “My former agent called and said, ‘We’re
going to have a busy day.’ ’’
Hickman did acknowledge voting for Iverson and provided his reasoning. Still,
a firestorm ensued that included the sports anchor receiving death threats.
“About three or four people called and left messages,’’ Hickman said of
those threats. "They said, ‘How could you not vote for Shaq? You should be
dead.’ I reported them to (CNN) security. That was before the Internet being
what is now. Can you imagine if they had Twitter back then?’’
當O'neal獲得mvp的消息公布當天早上 Hickman正在跟小孩聊天
他當時的經紀人打電話給他 "我們應該會有忙碌的一天了"
Hickman承認了他投給AI 也說明了原因 但是這仍然引起了一陣風暴 包括了死亡威脅
"大概有三四個人打來留言 他們說:你怎能不投給SHAQ?! 你應該去死"
然後他就告訴CNN這件事情 這還是在網路時代之前的事
你敢想像如果當年有twitter的話會有多恐怖嗎?
And why did Hickman go for Iverson, over O’Neal?
“I certainly didn’t mean to be the lone one,’’ Hickman said. “I picked
the guy who was the most valuable to his team. Philadelphia without Iverson
was a CBA team, and if the Lakers didn’t have Shaq, they would have still
been a pretty good team.’’
那為啥 Hickman投給了AI而非SHAQ?
"我沒想到我會是唯一(沒投給SHAQ)的那個人"
"我選AI只是因為他是對球隊最重要的人 76人沒有AI只不過是支CBA球隊 湖人沒有SHAQ
的話 應該還會是支不錯的隊伍"
Which is ridiculous, of course. Shaq shouldn’t have been penalized or docked
a vote just because Allen Iverson’s second-best teammate that year was Theo
Ratliff. Sometimes the league’s most valuable player can also have a stud
like Kobe Bryant by his side. It happens. This is why teams like the 1999-00
Los Angeles Lakers win 67 games.
這很蠢 Shaq不應該只因為AI的第一助手是Ratliff這理由而遭受懲罰
有時候最強的球員旁邊就是會有個例如Kobe這種球員支持
這就是為什麼湖人當年能贏67場的原因
What’s strangest amongst all this is the fact that Hickman – whose most
notable accomplishment during that particular season was to lead CNN’s
coverage of the 1999-to-2000 New Year’s crossover telecast – was given a
vote in the first place.
更奇怪的是當年為什麼Hickman會有投票權
Why was Fred Hickman – a very good television journalist with heaps of
credibility in his own industry – given a vote for the NBA’s Most Valuable
Player award? What part of that job made him an NBA analyst of any sort?
Remember, this was back when CNN (and not the fledgling CNN/SI Network) had
its own weekly NBA show on Sunday nights, and that wasn’t even hosted by
Hickman. Instead, Andre Aldridge, Bob Lorenz, and a series of others hosts
ran that particular weekly highlight program, with featured analysts
including Mike Glenn, Kevin Loughery, and a very loud Philadelphia Inquirer
columnist named Stephen A. Smith.
他雖然是一個非常好的電視記者 但是看不出跟NBA有什麼關聯性
他做了什麼nba研究?
當年CNN有Sunday NBA show 但這根本跟Hickman無關
Presumably things have changed. Not only has the influx of basketball
journalists on the internet (we think; some pretty prominent NBA voices have
no vote) made it so a series of high-end television cats have been bumped
from the rotation. Well, we hope. Nothing against ABC/ESPN’s studio crew,
but do you get the feeling Michael Wilbon (who has to speak effortlessly on
all sports both amateur and pro five nights a week on ‘Pardon the
Interruption’) gives off the scent of a guy that is all over NBA League Pass
on the same night The Big Football Game is on? Or the newspaper general
columnist that is asked by his editors to basically ignore the NBA until the
All-Star break?
(這段只是舉例Hickman有投票權的荒謬性 就不翻了)
The internet, and Twitter in particular, has changed things. Just by
following the right people, a local broadcaster who doesn’t have the time to
hunker down in front of all 30 teams throughout the week can stay reasonably
caught up just by staring at his or her phone for a few hours while waiting
for yet another flight. And the shaming aspect, frankly, plays a part. When a
stray vote brings up the Twitter ridicule, fans start sleuthing. This is why,
for years, both fans and some journalists have been calling for transparent
votes, with each voter’s ballot going on the record.
網路時代改變了許多事情
如果你沒有時間跟30隊的新聞 只要在Twitter上follow正確的消息來源
在等飛機時用手機花幾個小時看看就可以了
如果有人做出了愚蠢的投票 twitter上就會有一陣批判 粉絲也會想找出原因
這也是近年來 粉絲跟某些記者都想推行投票透明化--公開每個投票者的投票結果
This year’s MVP vote won’t need to be as transparent. LeBron James, even
after gliding through the season’s first two months, will win with a
unanimous vote. Arguments about where Tony Parker’s placement over Russell
Westbrook or Kobe Bryant’s overall worth on a 45-win team will be relegated
as pointless, and we’ll just have to steel our just-as-pointless-though-I-can
’t-help-it outrage for the All-NBA and All-Defensive Team votes.
And because nobody will give someone like James Harden a “look how valuable
he is to his team!” vote this season, Fred Hickman will still be the answer
to that trivia question. His choice, his call, his vote, his Wikipedia entry.
今年的MVP應該不需要這個就能搞定 就算球季前兩個月表現有些起伏(有嗎@@?)
LBJ應該可以全票獲選 有關TP是否>西河或是有關Kobe的爭論在mvp票選也沒有意義
這些爭論就留到NBA最佳陣容或防守最佳球隊吧
而因為應該沒有人會把MVP的第一名投給像是Harden這種球員只因為
"看!他對他的球隊多有價值!"
對於這個問題 Fred Hickman的選擇 他的WIKI條目應該還是唯一的答案
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1F:推 ch13 :引戰無誤 最強的旁邊有個例外KOBE 05/03 18:03
2F:→ creamnut :我投楊洨 05/03 18:04
3F:推 polarg :不要在沒有KOBE的舞台決定第一 05/03 18:04
4F:推 lesnaree2 :湖迷真恐怖 動不動就要殺人 05/03 18:07
5F:推 hump :雖然james比較強但我還是票投KOBE 05/03 18:08
6F:推 eddie7788 :什麼??史上最imba 單防最強 低位最強 單打最強 的神 05/03 18:08
7F:→ sxing6326 :你最後一段在翻啥 05/03 18:08
8F:→ eddie7788 :之kobe一票都沒有??? 05/03 18:09
9F:推 ckshchen :投ai真的怪,有kobe還有如此戰績表現更為困難 05/03 18:09
10F:推 dahlia7357 :怎麼可以坦白kobe沒有舞台了! 05/03 18:09
11F:推 AK00627 :5>>>>>>1 05/03 18:09
12F:推 chen740530 :的確史上第ㄧ 這有什麼疑問 05/03 18:09
13F:推 raysilence :CBA中槍 XD 05/03 18:10
14F:推 ianpanda0406:CBA躺著也中槍XDD 05/03 18:10
15F:→ sxing6326 :是講現在這個CBA? 05/03 18:11
16F:推 kk30180 :還有球迷那一票阿 KOBE還有機會 05/03 18:11
17F:→ KKyosuke :最後一段如果翻不好請指正 05/03 18:12
18F:推 evonre :請一個與NBA無關的記者來投票,這實在是亂來.. 05/03 18:12
19F:→ KKyosuke :我個人覺得他就是繼續在婊Fred Hickman而已 05/03 18:12
20F:→ sxing6326 :不是要怪你 原文我也看不懂QQ 05/03 18:12
21F:噓 SPFH120 :是美國的CBA....NBA球隊少了球星也不會比中國的CBA差 05/03 18:13
22F:推 djcc :討厭歐肥就說 理由一大堆 全票第一 作夢卡緊 05/03 18:14
23F:→ sxing6326 :大意就是Fred Hickman的過去總總會成為現今投票者 05/03 18:14
24F:→ sxing6326 :的借鏡 怕像他一樣亂投然後被抓出來鞭 05/03 18:15
25F:→ KKyosuke :在NBDL之前 NBA的"小聯盟"是CBA啊 05/03 18:15
26F:→ KKyosuke :我以為這件事應該大家都知道我就沒特別註明 05/03 18:16
27F:→ KKyosuke :而且當年AI在MVP總排名好像只有第七... 05/03 18:17
28F:推 Ilovemama :是美國的啦 76人再怎麼鳥也不至於是中國CBA水準 05/03 18:17
29F:→ sxing6326 :對於這個問題 維基上關於Fred Hickman的條目就是答案 05/03 18:20
30F:→ KKyosuke :好像順了一點 我修一下 05/03 18:22
※ 編輯: KKyosuke 來自: 114.34.53.151 (05/03 18:24)
31F:推 krajicek :一定會有人跑票的吧 05/03 18:26
32F:→ shwkz :通常這種新聞跑出來 一定會有人故意作亂 就像此板 XD 05/03 18:28
33F:推 kazureyesean:我也覺得一定會有人跑票,100%太扯了 05/03 18:28
34F:→ lesnaree2 :最後一段是說 假如NBA TV有出一題Trivia Question 05/03 18:29
35F:→ kazureyesean:反正又不影響大局,還可以搏新聞板面 05/03 18:29
36F:→ sxing6326 :OKC跟LA附近的一定會 05/03 18:29
37F:→ jokem :史上最強!? 05/03 18:29
38F:→ lesnaree2 :問說是誰在2000年唯一沒把MVP第一名選票給大歐 05/03 18:29
39F:→ lesnaree2 :那答案就是Hickman 05/03 18:30
40F:→ KKyosuke :不像是les說的這樣 是那樣的話直接用直述句 05/03 18:31
41F:→ KKyosuke :不用舉Harden當例子 也不會需要用到still 05/03 18:31
42F:→ shwkz :是媒體和記者投票吧? 05/03 18:31
43F:→ sxing6326 :lesnaree2你翻的怪怪的 他那段的含意應該是我前面說 05/03 18:31
44F:→ sxing6326 :的那樣 05/03 18:32
45F:推 ddt73930 :今年的lbj沒100%那這票選也沒啥公信力了 05/03 18:34
46F:→ skyhome :KD整個季後賽沒有統治力 不然應該可以分到一些票 05/03 18:36
47F:推 krajicek :票早就投完了,跟季後賽表現一點關係都沒有 05/03 18:37
48F:噓 vvvlove5566 :KOBE拼到腿都斷了 能不能可憐他給他一座MVP阿 05/03 18:37
49F:→ shwkz :馬刺數據不敵 KD駭喜戰術 甜瓜輸了2場 LBJ是有機會 05/03 18:38
50F:→ krajicek :就像MLB名人堂投票,總會有些人不投第一次被提名的 05/03 18:38
51F:→ shwkz :啊?投完了啊 05/03 18:38
52F:→ krajicek :NBA也一樣,一定有人會因為各種奇怪的因素而不投 05/03 18:38
53F:→ fit :原來會被死亡威脅,看起來就算不想投LBJ都不行了 05/03 18:39
54F:噓 murray5566 :左邊是超大型LBJ,右邊是愷之LBJ 05/03 18:42
55F:推 px0313 :所以應該投給西河 05/03 18:44
56F:推 like1259 :美國的CBA是三小XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/03 18:45
57F:→ KKyosuke :就是當年的NBDL...只是跟NBA沒有隸屬關係 現在倒了 05/03 18:54
58F:→ KKyosuke :應該說是"類似"現在的NBDL 05/03 18:55
59F:推 limelight :LBJ已經是史上第一了 看著他五連霸吧!! 05/03 19:12
60F:推 gn00945822 :意思是 現在網路更普及 你若沒投LBJ 就會被群眾轟炸 05/03 19:13
61F:→ gary360 :又是死亡威脅 05/03 19:19
62F:推 rock0077 :當年應該給俠客是因為有KOBE在搗亂還是可以拿MVP 05/03 20:31
63F:噓 Xmasbowl :史上抱大腿第一 05/03 20:45
64F:噓 sj210444 :史上抱大腿第一 05/03 21:06
65F:推 l04 :腿斷又沒差 那麼多大腿抱 05/03 21:43
66F:推 qoomilk :LBJ已經撇掉第三名很多正逐漸接近史上最強的MJ了.... 05/03 21:46
67F:推 tttmars :毫無疑問 比老大強多了 05/03 21:52
68F:推 baozi :LBJ就跟呂布一樣,當代第一猛將但沒志氣抱大腿 05/03 21:56
69F:→ baozi :再多MVP也及不上魔術跟大鳥的偉大,更別說跟MJ比了 05/03 21:57
70F:推 eddie7788 :魔術就算了 大鳥highlight難看到爆炸 05/03 22:27
71F:推 joulin :酸民又來大腿論 請更正是帶大腿降臨好嗎? 05/03 22:44
72F:推 hsuhuche :魔術已經在LA了 他是要去哪抱大腿? 大鳥的Celtic當時 05/03 22:57
73F:→ hsuhuche :也算是豪門大腿 如果他們一開始被費城選上再說。 05/03 22:58
74F:→ Spartan117 :不可能 05/03 23:03
75F:噓 bluestorm520:5 >>>>>>> 1 謝謝... 05/03 23:40
76F:推 lave70 :全票第一有難度 很難沒有投給KD或Melo的? 05/04 00:09
77F:→ lave70 :如果能全票第一就猛了 05/04 00:10
78F:推 mmes :兩鍋頭史上第一 謎謎設惹兒 05/04 00:18
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79F:推 abianbitch:lbj真的有點強 尤其現在感覺沒有人可以跟他平起平坐 05/04 21:31