作者Paraguay (巴拉圭)
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标题[外电] LBJ或许会是史上第一?
时间Sat May 4 00:56:26 2013
※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1HWuib8X ]
作者: KKyosuke (春日恭介) 看板: NBA
标题: [外絮] LBJ或许会是史上第一?
时间: Fri May 3 18:02:10 2013
http://0rz.tw/dXXKt
LeBron James will be awarded the NBA’s Most Valuable Player award sometime
next week. I don’t have a vote nor any inside information on the voting
process, but it’s as easy a call as expecting May to provide warmer weather
as the month moves along, or predicting that Kelly Dwyer will probably give
some stupid hipster in a hat a withering glare around last call this Sunday
morning. It’s going to happen.
在下周的某个时候 LBJ应该会获得本季的MVP 虽然作者没有投票权 但是这显而易见
What is nearly as assured is the potential for LeBron James to become the
first unanimous MVP selection in NBA history. After a season like LeBron’s it
’s entirely possible, and certainly appropriate. And it’s also
unprecedented due to the work of one man, former CNN and ESPN anchor Fred
Hickman, who decided to cast an MVP vote for Allen Iverson in 2000, denying
Shaquille O’Neal a deserved unanimous voting record.
或许应该关心的是 LBJ会不会是第一个全票第一名当选的MVP
以LBJ今年以及热火今年的表现来看 这极有可能
当然 这件事之所以会是史无前例的 也是因为当年CNN及ESPN作家Fred Hickman在MVP
投票时选了AI而非Shaq当第一名 而让Shaq没有获得这项荣誉
FOX Sports’ Chris Tomasson caught up with Hickman recently to discuss the
fallout of that non-event:
Fox体育的Chris Tomasson在那之後找到了Hickman讨论这件事
“It was crazy,’’ Hickman remembers about the fallout. “I got death
threats.’’
Hickman, now sports director for WVUE-TV in New Orleans, doesn’t have a
ballot this season. If he did, he said he would vote for James and believes
the Miami Heat star should be a unanimous pick.
"这太疯狂了" Hickman回忆 "我当时甚至收到了死亡威胁"
Hickman今年没有投票权 但他说如果他有的话他会投给LBJ 而且相信LBJ会以全票获选
“The morning it went public (that O’Neal won the MVP), I was taking my son
to school,’’ Hickman recalls. “My former agent called and said, ‘We’re
going to have a busy day.’ ’’
Hickman did acknowledge voting for Iverson and provided his reasoning. Still,
a firestorm ensued that included the sports anchor receiving death threats.
“About three or four people called and left messages,’’ Hickman said of
those threats. "They said, ‘How could you not vote for Shaq? You should be
dead.’ I reported them to (CNN) security. That was before the Internet being
what is now. Can you imagine if they had Twitter back then?’’
当O'neal获得mvp的消息公布当天早上 Hickman正在跟小孩聊天
他当时的经纪人打电话给他 "我们应该会有忙碌的一天了"
Hickman承认了他投给AI 也说明了原因 但是这仍然引起了一阵风暴 包括了死亡威胁
"大概有三四个人打来留言 他们说:你怎能不投给SHAQ?! 你应该去死"
然後他就告诉CNN这件事情 这还是在网路时代之前的事
你敢想像如果当年有twitter的话会有多恐怖吗?
And why did Hickman go for Iverson, over O’Neal?
“I certainly didn’t mean to be the lone one,’’ Hickman said. “I picked
the guy who was the most valuable to his team. Philadelphia without Iverson
was a CBA team, and if the Lakers didn’t have Shaq, they would have still
been a pretty good team.’’
那为啥 Hickman投给了AI而非SHAQ?
"我没想到我会是唯一(没投给SHAQ)的那个人"
"我选AI只是因为他是对球队最重要的人 76人没有AI只不过是支CBA球队 湖人没有SHAQ
的话 应该还会是支不错的队伍"
Which is ridiculous, of course. Shaq shouldn’t have been penalized or docked
a vote just because Allen Iverson’s second-best teammate that year was Theo
Ratliff. Sometimes the league’s most valuable player can also have a stud
like Kobe Bryant by his side. It happens. This is why teams like the 1999-00
Los Angeles Lakers win 67 games.
这很蠢 Shaq不应该只因为AI的第一助手是Ratliff这理由而遭受惩罚
有时候最强的球员旁边就是会有个例如Kobe这种球员支持
这就是为什麽湖人当年能赢67场的原因
What’s strangest amongst all this is the fact that Hickman – whose most
notable accomplishment during that particular season was to lead CNN’s
coverage of the 1999-to-2000 New Year’s crossover telecast – was given a
vote in the first place.
更奇怪的是当年为什麽Hickman会有投票权
Why was Fred Hickman – a very good television journalist with heaps of
credibility in his own industry – given a vote for the NBA’s Most Valuable
Player award? What part of that job made him an NBA analyst of any sort?
Remember, this was back when CNN (and not the fledgling CNN/SI Network) had
its own weekly NBA show on Sunday nights, and that wasn’t even hosted by
Hickman. Instead, Andre Aldridge, Bob Lorenz, and a series of others hosts
ran that particular weekly highlight program, with featured analysts
including Mike Glenn, Kevin Loughery, and a very loud Philadelphia Inquirer
columnist named Stephen A. Smith.
他虽然是一个非常好的电视记者 但是看不出跟NBA有什麽关联性
他做了什麽nba研究?
当年CNN有Sunday NBA show 但这根本跟Hickman无关
Presumably things have changed. Not only has the influx of basketball
journalists on the internet (we think; some pretty prominent NBA voices have
no vote) made it so a series of high-end television cats have been bumped
from the rotation. Well, we hope. Nothing against ABC/ESPN’s studio crew,
but do you get the feeling Michael Wilbon (who has to speak effortlessly on
all sports both amateur and pro five nights a week on ‘Pardon the
Interruption’) gives off the scent of a guy that is all over NBA League Pass
on the same night The Big Football Game is on? Or the newspaper general
columnist that is asked by his editors to basically ignore the NBA until the
All-Star break?
(这段只是举例Hickman有投票权的荒谬性 就不翻了)
The internet, and Twitter in particular, has changed things. Just by
following the right people, a local broadcaster who doesn’t have the time to
hunker down in front of all 30 teams throughout the week can stay reasonably
caught up just by staring at his or her phone for a few hours while waiting
for yet another flight. And the shaming aspect, frankly, plays a part. When a
stray vote brings up the Twitter ridicule, fans start sleuthing. This is why,
for years, both fans and some journalists have been calling for transparent
votes, with each voter’s ballot going on the record.
网路时代改变了许多事情
如果你没有时间跟30队的新闻 只要在Twitter上follow正确的消息来源
在等飞机时用手机花几个小时看看就可以了
如果有人做出了愚蠢的投票 twitter上就会有一阵批判 粉丝也会想找出原因
这也是近年来 粉丝跟某些记者都想推行投票透明化--公开每个投票者的投票结果
This year’s MVP vote won’t need to be as transparent. LeBron James, even
after gliding through the season’s first two months, will win with a
unanimous vote. Arguments about where Tony Parker’s placement over Russell
Westbrook or Kobe Bryant’s overall worth on a 45-win team will be relegated
as pointless, and we’ll just have to steel our just-as-pointless-though-I-can
’t-help-it outrage for the All-NBA and All-Defensive Team votes.
And because nobody will give someone like James Harden a “look how valuable
he is to his team!” vote this season, Fred Hickman will still be the answer
to that trivia question. His choice, his call, his vote, his Wikipedia entry.
今年的MVP应该不需要这个就能搞定 就算球季前两个月表现有些起伏(有吗@@?)
LBJ应该可以全票获选 有关TP是否>西河或是有关Kobe的争论在mvp票选也没有意义
这些争论就留到NBA最佳阵容或防守最佳球队吧
而因为应该没有人会把MVP的第一名投给像是Harden这种球员只因为
"看!他对他的球队多有价值!"
对於这个问题 Fred Hickman的选择 他的WIKI条目应该还是唯一的答案
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1F:推 ch13 :引战无误 最强的旁边有个例外KOBE 05/03 18:03
2F:→ creamnut :我投杨洨 05/03 18:04
3F:推 polarg :不要在没有KOBE的舞台决定第一 05/03 18:04
4F:推 lesnaree2 :湖迷真恐怖 动不动就要杀人 05/03 18:07
5F:推 hump :虽然james比较强但我还是票投KOBE 05/03 18:08
6F:推 eddie7788 :什麽??史上最imba 单防最强 低位最强 单打最强 的神 05/03 18:08
7F:→ sxing6326 :你最後一段在翻啥 05/03 18:08
8F:→ eddie7788 :之kobe一票都没有??? 05/03 18:09
9F:推 ckshchen :投ai真的怪,有kobe还有如此战绩表现更为困难 05/03 18:09
10F:推 dahlia7357 :怎麽可以坦白kobe没有舞台了! 05/03 18:09
11F:推 AK00627 :5>>>>>>1 05/03 18:09
12F:推 chen740530 :的确史上第ㄧ 这有什麽疑问 05/03 18:09
13F:推 raysilence :CBA中枪 XD 05/03 18:10
14F:推 ianpanda0406:CBA躺着也中枪XDD 05/03 18:10
15F:→ sxing6326 :是讲现在这个CBA? 05/03 18:11
16F:推 kk30180 :还有球迷那一票阿 KOBE还有机会 05/03 18:11
17F:→ KKyosuke :最後一段如果翻不好请指正 05/03 18:12
18F:推 evonre :请一个与NBA无关的记者来投票,这实在是乱来.. 05/03 18:12
19F:→ KKyosuke :我个人觉得他就是继续在婊Fred Hickman而已 05/03 18:12
20F:→ sxing6326 :不是要怪你 原文我也看不懂QQ 05/03 18:12
21F:嘘 SPFH120 :是美国的CBA....NBA球队少了球星也不会比中国的CBA差 05/03 18:13
22F:推 djcc :讨厌欧肥就说 理由一大堆 全票第一 作梦卡紧 05/03 18:14
23F:→ sxing6326 :大意就是Fred Hickman的过去总总会成为现今投票者 05/03 18:14
24F:→ sxing6326 :的借镜 怕像他一样乱投然後被抓出来鞭 05/03 18:15
25F:→ KKyosuke :在NBDL之前 NBA的"小联盟"是CBA啊 05/03 18:15
26F:→ KKyosuke :我以为这件事应该大家都知道我就没特别注明 05/03 18:16
27F:→ KKyosuke :而且当年AI在MVP总排名好像只有第七... 05/03 18:17
28F:推 Ilovemama :是美国的啦 76人再怎麽鸟也不至於是中国CBA水准 05/03 18:17
29F:→ sxing6326 :对於这个问题 维基上关於Fred Hickman的条目就是答案 05/03 18:20
30F:→ KKyosuke :好像顺了一点 我修一下 05/03 18:22
※ 编辑: KKyosuke 来自: 114.34.53.151 (05/03 18:24)
31F:推 krajicek :一定会有人跑票的吧 05/03 18:26
32F:→ shwkz :通常这种新闻跑出来 一定会有人故意作乱 就像此板 XD 05/03 18:28
33F:推 kazureyesean:我也觉得一定会有人跑票,100%太扯了 05/03 18:28
34F:→ lesnaree2 :最後一段是说 假如NBA TV有出一题Trivia Question 05/03 18:29
35F:→ kazureyesean:反正又不影响大局,还可以搏新闻板面 05/03 18:29
36F:→ sxing6326 :OKC跟LA附近的一定会 05/03 18:29
37F:→ jokem :史上最强!? 05/03 18:29
38F:→ lesnaree2 :问说是谁在2000年唯一没把MVP第一名选票给大欧 05/03 18:29
39F:→ lesnaree2 :那答案就是Hickman 05/03 18:30
40F:→ KKyosuke :不像是les说的这样 是那样的话直接用直述句 05/03 18:31
41F:→ KKyosuke :不用举Harden当例子 也不会需要用到still 05/03 18:31
42F:→ shwkz :是媒体和记者投票吧? 05/03 18:31
43F:→ sxing6326 :lesnaree2你翻的怪怪的 他那段的含意应该是我前面说 05/03 18:31
44F:→ sxing6326 :的那样 05/03 18:32
45F:推 ddt73930 :今年的lbj没100%那这票选也没啥公信力了 05/03 18:34
46F:→ skyhome :KD整个季後赛没有统治力 不然应该可以分到一些票 05/03 18:36
47F:推 krajicek :票早就投完了,跟季後赛表现一点关系都没有 05/03 18:37
48F:嘘 vvvlove5566 :KOBE拼到腿都断了 能不能可怜他给他一座MVP阿 05/03 18:37
49F:→ shwkz :马刺数据不敌 KD骇喜战术 甜瓜输了2场 LBJ是有机会 05/03 18:38
50F:→ krajicek :就像MLB名人堂投票,总会有些人不投第一次被提名的 05/03 18:38
51F:→ shwkz :啊?投完了啊 05/03 18:38
52F:→ krajicek :NBA也一样,一定有人会因为各种奇怪的因素而不投 05/03 18:38
53F:→ fit :原来会被死亡威胁,看起来就算不想投LBJ都不行了 05/03 18:39
54F:嘘 murray5566 :左边是超大型LBJ,右边是恺之LBJ 05/03 18:42
55F:推 px0313 :所以应该投给西河 05/03 18:44
56F:推 like1259 :美国的CBA是三小XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/03 18:45
57F:→ KKyosuke :就是当年的NBDL...只是跟NBA没有隶属关系 现在倒了 05/03 18:54
58F:→ KKyosuke :应该说是"类似"现在的NBDL 05/03 18:55
59F:推 limelight :LBJ已经是史上第一了 看着他五连霸吧!! 05/03 19:12
60F:推 gn00945822 :意思是 现在网路更普及 你若没投LBJ 就会被群众轰炸 05/03 19:13
61F:→ gary360 :又是死亡威胁 05/03 19:19
62F:推 rock0077 :当年应该给侠客是因为有KOBE在捣乱还是可以拿MVP 05/03 20:31
63F:嘘 Xmasbowl :史上抱大腿第一 05/03 20:45
64F:嘘 sj210444 :史上抱大腿第一 05/03 21:06
65F:推 l04 :腿断又没差 那麽多大腿抱 05/03 21:43
66F:推 qoomilk :LBJ已经撇掉第三名很多正逐渐接近史上最强的MJ了.... 05/03 21:46
67F:推 tttmars :毫无疑问 比老大强多了 05/03 21:52
68F:推 baozi :LBJ就跟吕布一样,当代第一猛将但没志气抱大腿 05/03 21:56
69F:→ baozi :再多MVP也及不上魔术跟大鸟的伟大,更别说跟MJ比了 05/03 21:57
70F:推 eddie7788 :魔术就算了 大鸟highlight难看到爆炸 05/03 22:27
71F:推 joulin :酸民又来大腿论 请更正是带大腿降临好吗? 05/03 22:44
72F:推 hsuhuche :魔术已经在LA了 他是要去哪抱大腿? 大鸟的Celtic当时 05/03 22:57
73F:→ hsuhuche :也算是豪门大腿 如果他们一开始被费城选上再说。 05/03 22:58
74F:→ Spartan117 :不可能 05/03 23:03
75F:嘘 bluestorm520:5 >>>>>>> 1 谢谢... 05/03 23:40
76F:推 lave70 :全票第一有难度 很难没有投给KD或Melo的? 05/04 00:09
77F:→ lave70 :如果能全票第一就猛了 05/04 00:10
78F:推 mmes :两锅头史上第一 谜谜设惹儿 05/04 00:18
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79F:推 abianbitch:lbj真的有点强 尤其现在感觉没有人可以跟他平起平坐 05/04 21:31