※ 引述《lerudit (l'Erudit)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《bluelygrey (納茲理王)》之銘言： : : 另外,並不是所有的西方國家都支持以色列和美國的種種行徑. : : 至少英國就不是. 我算半個英國媳婦啦(快結婚了), 也在英國快一年了. : : 大部份的英國人根本不想加入美國在中東的侵略行列,只不過英國首相 : : tony blair愛抱布希大腿, 大家發現選錯人已經來不及了. : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 事實當然不可能這麼簡單. 只是懶的在bbs上打長篇大論啦. 當然很多人還是相信他們的首相, 但至少也有許多支持工黨的前黨民都很不能相信,tony blair會在當選上 首相後180度大轉變! 從他以前許多政治盟友像mo mowlan之後都紛紛跟他決裂 可以一窺tony blair立場的轉變.(咦? 怎麼跟民進黨的某人有點像?) 部份當然不能代表全部,但至少我週遭的英國人都很希望把英國軍隊退出中東, 每次新聞上報又有哪個英國士兵在伊拉克犧牲大家一討論就很難過, 還有Guantanamo, 這個美國用來關 "疑似恐怖份子" 的監獄, 我們身邊就有受害者. 裡面有多少人是無辜的?! 上個月看了一部回憶式紀錄片,三個英國巴基斯坦裔 只不過去探親而已喔, 就因為他們的膚色被莫名其妙抓去關兩年, 其中衣服被 扒光身體心理上的折磨等,完全的不人道! 他們犯了什麼錯? 只不過在 錯誤的時間出現在錯誤的地方... 我們學校的鄰居校brighton uni 裡也是一位法律系的學生, 去年去巴基斯坦玩, 就因為他的膚色等被抓去Guanatanamo關了...我們已經參加了一堆抗議遊行, 目前還是無法把他救出來.. 美國在中東發動戰爭,因為911恐怖份子殺他三千人,那美軍在伊拉克殺了兩萬 多人怎麼講? (數據是之前在BBC上看來的估計值) 當然身為一個國家元首,往往必須把國家利益擺在前面. 但是我只是一個小百姓, 我身邊的許多人也都只是一個小百姓. 身為一個小百姓, 我們看不到 搶不搶到中東的石油對我們有多重要, 我們只知道開著坦克戰鬥機衝到人家家裡 殺人, 是喪失人性與良知的行為. 以上文章並不想引發爭辯,只是今天早上又看BBC上美軍抱著槍在伊拉克街頭跑來 跑去, 旁邊一堆連鞋都沒有伊拉克人慌張四散 這樣畫面的感觸... : I don't think this is so simple. Certainly the oil was one of the major : concerns. Similarly, France and Germany tried to prevent the war for similar : reasons, the oil. I cannot see what wrong the Prime Minister made. The UK : spent some force in the Mid East, not that much as the US, and got some : control on the oil, which is very important energy resource. : I know this would cause a war and kill many people, however, I would not : give up, unless I were going to receive more arguments about bad economy : due to expensive energy. Usually, economy issues usually hurt a president or : a prime ministr more than a winning war. : You see? This is not that simple just like what you said. : I also doubt that is true that 'most of the Britons do not want to join... : in Mid East'. : I would rather believe most of the Britons do trust their Prime Minister; : at least, they obey all the election results and/or decisions from the one : wins the general election. : Before the war, there were a lot of arguments every day. Nearly everywhere : in the UK was full of discussion about this issue. Once agreement and decision : came out, all the four countries solidified firmly. If there was a war then : they were not going to surrender. To be honest, I do envy this. This has never : happened in democratic Taiwan. I don't mean the war but the solidification : and obeying the rules, the laws, agreements and the elections. : To be a Briton may be nice, however, to carefully think and openly discuss : political and international issue, like Britons, is even more worthy. : By the way, : At the same time, there was SARS around several countries. There were two : cases in England. However, the management and communication of their : medical system was not that rubbish as those of Taiwan. Nobody dead due to : SARS in the UK. I did be so proud of Taiwan, before it outbroke. : Eventually, I was wrong. From the four people dead in the river, the SARS : and the little girl dead due to no hospital wanting to take her, : the system has not changed too much, has it? --

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