哪裡有變造文字? 每一段都是直接取自本文，而且沒有斷章取義， 也沒有特意修改添加，你是要戰啥東? 引文很簡潔有力的描述了道金斯 意思。而且我講life已經比那個universe還要保守了。我還只 講有機，道金斯根本是有機無機一網打盡。 而且我有好幾段引文來支持我的論述，你隨便挑一段，說跟基督教 團體貼的引文相似，就可以說我的論述不可採信? 哪有這麼簡單的事? 你自己貼的引文就說道金斯認為生命毫無意義，你把我貼的引文 又貼一次，證明我的論述為真，然後說你不同意道金斯? XD 你講「全能神」的引文在哪裡? 哪種全能神? 當今最有名的無神論 者其實是自然神論? 你有沒有搞錯甚麼? 你說你不同意道金斯嗎? 那太好了，跟我解釋你的觀點是甚麼。 根據自然主義，生命的意義是甚麼? 一句你不信道金斯就想發文喔? 哪有這麼簡單? 主要論述拿來 ※ 引述《kalestorm (正太惡魔燄吞兄貴南戶唯)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《neohippie (米國聖光肥魯八嘎囧)》之銘言： : : 你不會去爬文喔，老子都把引文貼出來了 #1PLLv7Mi : : 有不滿的歡迎回文 : neohippie的引文： : https://webptt.com/m.aspx?n=bbs/Christianity/M.1498766919.A.5AC.html : Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life... : life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA... : life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind : pitiless indifference. : (River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life) : 基督教傳教機構的引文： : http://www.icr.org/article/darwinism-survival-without-purpose/ : Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life... : life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA... : life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind : pitiless indifference.1 --Richard Dawkins : References: Scheff, Liam. 2007. The Dawkins Delusion. Salvo, 2:94. : River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life : http://s-f-walker.org.uk/pubsebooks/pdfs/Richard_Dawkins_River_Out_of_Eden.pdf : But group welfare is always a fortuitous consequence, not a primary drive. : This is the meaning of "the selfish gene." : This sounds savagely cruel but, as we shall see, nature is not cruel, : only pitilessly indifferent. This is one ofthe hardest lessons for : humans to learn. We cannot admit that things might be neither good nor evil, : neither cruel nor kind, but simply callous—indifferent to all suffering, : lacking all purpose. : On the contrary, if the universe were just electrons and selfish genes, : meaningless tragedies like the crashing of this bus are exactly what : we should expect, along with equally meaningless good fortune. : Such a universe would be neither evil nor good in intention. It would : manifest no intentions of any kind. In a universe of blind physical : forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, : other peopleare going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or : reason in it, nor any justice. : The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect : if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, : nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. : 章節：GOD'S UTILITY FUCTION : the true utility function of life, that which is being maximized in the : natural world, is DNA survival. : [ utility function of life (being maximized in the natural world) = : purpose of life？ meaning of life？] : 先不管基督教傳教機構自行變造挪移道金斯的文字，來拼湊想要的意思。 : 道金斯就只是一個還活在「全能神造萬物造人類」（章節要取GOD'S UTILITY FUCTION？） : 陰影底下的人。（不過也有可能是他的讀者是這樣，所以他不得不這樣。） : 然後我只是要指出基督教傳教機構變造他文字的事實，所以再說道金斯背書之前， : 去和他通信吧。 : 另外我一點都不信仰道金斯，更對他的有些觀點嗤之以鼻。所以，道金斯認為生命怎樣 : 怎樣，那是他自己對生命的觀點。聲稱他的觀點，得要是非基督教的人，應該持有 : 的觀點（或把他的觀點當作非基督教信眾得要有的觀點），真是荒謬之至。 : : → kalestorm: 拒絕鬼打牆 10/18 01:06 : : 你玩跟風可吹一樣的花招，不管甚麼論述你都可以批說是不夠好，不達標。 : : 已經給你引文了跟我要Dawkins的親筆回信，真的拿到的話我猜你應該會要錄像， : : 拿到錄像會要求要見到本人，沒完沒了的無本批評... : 不會啦，只要簡單的Email，回函、來函，證明他自己也同意基督教傳教機構那樣 : 表述他的觀點就好。 --

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