哪里有变造文字? 每一段都是直接取自本文，而且没有断章取义， 也没有特意修改添加，你是要战啥东? 引文很简洁有力的描述了道金斯 意思。而且我讲life已经比那个universe还要保守了。我还只 讲有机，道金斯根本是有机无机一网打尽。 而且我有好几段引文来支持我的论述，你随便挑一段，说跟基督教 团体贴的引文相似，就可以说我的论述不可采信? 哪有这麽简单的事? 你自己贴的引文就说道金斯认为生命毫无意义，你把我贴的引文 又贴一次，证明我的论述为真，然後说你不同意道金斯? XD 你讲「全能神」的引文在哪里? 哪种全能神? 当今最有名的无神论 者其实是自然神论? 你有没有搞错甚麽? 你说你不同意道金斯吗? 那太好了，跟我解释你的观点是甚麽。 根据自然主义，生命的意义是甚麽? 一句你不信道金斯就想发文喔? 哪有这麽简单? 主要论述拿来 ※ 引述《kalestorm (正太恶魔焰吞兄贵南户唯)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《neohippie (米国圣光肥鲁八嘎囧)》之铭言： : : 你不会去爬文喔，老子都把引文贴出来了 #1PLLv7Mi : : 有不满的欢迎回文 : neohippie的引文： : https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Christianity/M.1498766919.A.5AC.html : Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life... : life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA... : life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind : pitiless indifference. : (River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life) : 基督教传教机构的引文： : http://www.icr.org/article/darwinism-survival-without-purpose/ : Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life... : life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA... : life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind : pitiless indifference.1 --Richard Dawkins : References: Scheff, Liam. 2007. The Dawkins Delusion. Salvo, 2:94. : River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life : http://s-f-walker.org.uk/pubsebooks/pdfs/Richard_Dawkins_River_Out_of_Eden.pdf : But group welfare is always a fortuitous consequence, not a primary drive. : This is the meaning of "the selfish gene." : This sounds savagely cruel but, as we shall see, nature is not cruel, : only pitilessly indifferent. This is one ofthe hardest lessons for : humans to learn. We cannot admit that things might be neither good nor evil, : neither cruel nor kind, but simply callous—indifferent to all suffering, : lacking all purpose. : On the contrary, if the universe were just electrons and selfish genes, : meaningless tragedies like the crashing of this bus are exactly what : we should expect, along with equally meaningless good fortune. : Such a universe would be neither evil nor good in intention. It would : manifest no intentions of any kind. In a universe of blind physical : forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, : other peopleare going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or : reason in it, nor any justice. : The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect : if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, : nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. : 章节：GOD'S UTILITY FUCTION : the true utility function of life, that which is being maximized in the : natural world, is DNA survival. : [ utility function of life (being maximized in the natural world) = : purpose of life？ meaning of life？] : 先不管基督教传教机构自行变造挪移道金斯的文字，来拼凑想要的意思。 : 道金斯就只是一个还活在「全能神造万物造人类」（章节要取GOD'S UTILITY FUCTION？） : 阴影底下的人。（不过也有可能是他的读者是这样，所以他不得不这样。） : 然後我只是要指出基督教传教机构变造他文字的事实，所以再说道金斯背书之前， : 去和他通信吧。 : 另外我一点都不信仰道金斯，更对他的有些观点嗤之以鼻。所以，道金斯认为生命怎样 : 怎样，那是他自己对生命的观点。声称他的观点，得要是非基督教的人，应该持有 : 的观点（或把他的观点当作非基督教信众得要有的观点），真是荒谬之至。 : : → kalestorm: 拒绝鬼打墙 10/18 01:06 : : 你玩跟风可吹一样的花招，不管甚麽论述你都可以批说是不够好，不达标。 : : 已经给你引文了跟我要Dawkins的亲笔回信，真的拿到的话我猜你应该会要录像， : : 拿到录像会要求要见到本人，没完没了的无本批评... : 不会啦，只要简单的Email，回函、来函，证明他自己也同意基督教传教机构那样 : 表述他的观点就好。 --

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