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放心吧 Ray的重要性在今年會更加明顯,沒別的原因...就是少了Posey 當T-Mac一直硬打Ray時,如果是去年就會有Posey上來頂...現在Ray只能靠自已 特別是TA看來除了比較健康有自信外,並沒有什麼多大的進步 拿了球就一定要往前運二下、沒有外線、跑位又差,基本上如果C's在進攻上打戰術 的話,感覺上TA是完全沒用處...他只需要大家讓開清出禁區給他單打 今年TA還是一個防守組,但是礙於身高要跟Posey比還是差多了 (T-Mac看都不看就在 他頭上投籃...)反之,等Doc覺得時機成熟時理論上Bill Walker跟九把刀會有機會上場 (就如同前幾年的新秀一樣..都是球季開打一段時間後才有機會亮相) 另一重點是,Ray到C's時就有說過希望在PG上分一點時間,而今年到目前為止,我認 為Doc最好早點讓Ray打一些PG,因為目前PG上只有Rondo罩得住...House、TA、Pruitt 都還不行 至於會覺得三分球變差,很大的原因就是TA的上場時間增加 只要他跟Rondo一起出現,外線就完全沒火力>< 這個問題是無解的!! 除非讓Pruitt跟Rondo一起上...也是一個方法 ※ 引述《SexyCassell (其實我很帥)》之銘言: : Get the ball to Ray Allen and let him run the offense (with the bench) : 原文連結:http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=23327.0 : ※這是在celticsblog上看到的一系列討論串,主要在講RAY在C's的定位和打法問題 :  有興趣的人可以自行前去觀看整個討論串,國外很多球迷的觀點相當有意思。 :  以下節錄部分片段,歡迎大家一起討論!^^ : ※去年奪冠後,RAY本人曾經說過:「We did our best to somewhat downplay it, : because Big Three, it was a Big 15. We have 15 guys on this team that : have contributed all year.」 :  希望所有塞爾提克的球迷都秉著這樣的精神~~^^ : ----------------------------------------------- : Ray needs to be singled out on offense just like Paul is whenever he is alone : out there with the second group. He's a good enough facilitator to involve the : other guys when he doesn't have it but I want one of the greatest shooters in : NBA history shooting when with the second unit not Baby taking 18 footers and : Tony taking wild, off balance drives to the basket. : ----------------------------------------------- : Like just about everyone not named Pierce, Ray's shot was off last night. He : wasn't making his early open looks and was swatted the one time I recall him : taking it to the rim. It looks like we were playing him the same way we did : early last season, using him as a spot up shooter. : I think Ray needs the ball in his hands a little more, and not just running : around the perimeter. He needs to try and get into the middle or get those : midrange jumpers going before he starts launching the deep balls. : ------------------------------------------------- : ◎ : 關於這個問題,上個球季冠軍賽第五場的時候已經非常熱烈討論過一次了......囧 : 事實就是RAY和PP在球隊的部分功用就是重疊到,然而這個問題是不是非得要解決不可? : 尤其是我們已經拿下隊史的第17座冠軍,針對這個問題不能有別種想法嗎? : 請看下面幾段討論原文── : ----------------------------------------------- : I didn't like the lack of involvement/shots Ray had while playing with that : unit. It's a great opportunity to get Ray going offensively each night, they : should make more of it. : ----------------------------------------------- : I think more and more Ray is going to become a spot up shooter on the team, : there will be lots of screen and rolls for him, but as far as him with the ball : at the top of the key creating his shot, probably not (unless Sashsa Vujacic is : standing in front of him, and then 10 feet behind him). TA is a slasher, and as : unorthodox and ugly as it is at times, he can create his own shot better than : Ray. I do think Ray definitely should see more of the ball when he is the only : member of the big three out there, but it was just one game, and the Cavs play : Ray Ray well, so maybe Doc was trying to throw something out of the ordinary at : them. Hey, it worked. : --------------------------------------------- : ◎  : 小結 : (1)希望RAY能打得更有侵略性~ :   (2)RAY(也許)正轉型為定點射手,但是他會獲得更多掩護~ : (3)如果河流放棄一些既有的東西,球隊或許會運轉的更好~ : 所謂的放棄一些東西,真的是非常玩味的一句話~~~ : 於是──下面這幾段就是重點了! : --------------------------------------------- : Ray is a shooter/scorer and I would like to see him play less minutes and get : more shots up per minute. I really wouldn't mind Ray playing 25 minutes per : game and taking more shots per minute. He really isn't above average in any : other facet of the game. Does he really have to play 41 minutes just to space : the floor? : -------------------------------------------- : It is not just about getting shots for Ray. It is about trying to run the : offense at it's most effectiveness. And putting the ball in Ray's hands when : Pierce, KG and Rondo are on the bench would make the Celtics offense the most : effective it can be. : Ray can do more then just catch and shoot. : ---------------------------------------------- : ◎ : 小結: : (4)RAY需要的是持球時間,不是上場時間。 :   (5)寧願RAY在較短的上場時候裡有更多的出手。 : (6)與其說是更多的出手,其實是更有效率的得分。 : ----------------------------------------------- : Well yes Ray has to play 41 mins to space the floor because he and Pierce are : the only guys on the team that need to be guarded at the 3 pt line. The only : way around this is to give some mins to Pruitt. : That is the flaw in the whole Eddie as a pg and the Eddie, Tony, Ray line up. : Eddie is not a good 3pt shooter pulling up off the dribble and he doesn't do a : great job of finding others open looks or handling the ball in traffic. Tony : can get his own shot but gets in trouble when he starts trying to create shots : and find the open man and is an iffy spot up shooter even if left wide open. : Ray is in a simliar situation as Tony creating but much like Eddie he is way : better off the ball catching and shooting. --



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1F:推 SexyCassell :這倒是真的 軟豆和TA同時在場上 外線真的很囧~~ 11/08 00:51
2F:→ SexyCassell :但是我一直在想一群替補+RAY 和一群替補+PP 11/08 00:53
3F:→ SexyCassell :爲什麼結果會差那麼多?XD 11/08 00:53
4F:推 NLchu :目前C's的rule player功能太過單一,四個裡面三個只 11/08 01:21
5F:→ NLchu :能打禁區,一個只能投外線,所以這季看到大家都在增 11/08 01:21
6F:→ NLchu :加中距離的出手(不管是不是一直沒進= =),已經不只是 11/08 01:22
7F:→ NLchu :單純沒外線的問題了......只能說替補太過薄弱的問題 11/08 01:23
8F:→ NLchu :一直都在,而且已經被別隊攻擊了,快簽人吧安吉 11/08 01:25
9F:→ TT123 :再簽人的話,就要交易了...人基本上滿了 11/08 02:03
10F:→ TT123 :比較期待新秀能補上來 11/08 02:03
11F:→ TT123 :整個替補陣容,最大的問題還是在TA 11/08 02:04
12F:→ TT123 :首先House根本不會組織也沒有單打能力,他只能待在 11/08 02:05
13F:→ TT123 :三分線外等機會,偏偏TA也愛站在三分線外看等看有沒 11/08 02:06
14F:→ TT123 :人會給他球單打,Big Baby跟Powe都覺得在禁區比較有 11/08 02:07
15F:→ TT123 :安全感...如果Ray或PP不站出來組織的話,就形同一灘 11/08 02:09
16F:→ TT123 :死水...也因此當替補大軍上來時,最好的方法就是打快 11/08 02:10
17F:→ TT123 :避免打半場進攻,以防守發動快速的反擊 11/08 02:11
18F:推 viking0518 :個人覺得不考慮合約的話,是該交易 11/08 02:14
19F:→ TT123 :如果一定要打半場的話,最好球先調到低位給Powe 11/08 02:14
20F:→ viking0518 :總覺得替補陣容有重複到,應該精簡換個三分砲 11/08 02:14
21F:→ TT123 :事實上,根本沒幾個替補PF守得住Powe 11/08 02:15
22F:→ TT123 :一定要交易的話~~我們是需要一個2、3號的替補 11/08 02:18
23F:→ TT123 :以熱身賽看來,Bill Walker應該已達到可以上場的水準 11/08 02:19
24F:推 viking0518 :恩恩,目前三分彈薄弱這樣打季後賽真的很吃虧 11/08 02:20
25F:→ TT123 :除非我們能用九把刀或Walker加上Big Baby去換到一個 11/08 02:20
26F:→ viking0518 :總不能讓雷槍和PP一直挑戰高難度三分出手 11/08 02:21
27F:→ TT123 :不錯的球員,不然的話~~還是等一陣子看新秀能不能上 11/08 02:21
28F:→ TT123 :其實九把刀就是一個Posey..他防守跟三分球都很強 11/08 02:22
29F:→ TT123 :只是還沒能達到Doc認為能上場的水準 11/08 02:23
30F:推 viking0518 :少一個波西真的很頭痛 11/08 02:23
31F:推 x0912587681 :拜託 那也要T妹能打進總冠軍賽呀 XD 11/08 09:08







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