作者Ensanguine (殘廢的理性)
看板Atheism
標題[討論]相信無神的就沒道德觀?
時間Tue Sep 2 11:58:33 2008
很多信仰有神的衛道份子,總認為atheist=道德淪喪
但是以下數據推翻掉這些批評,
在美國atheist所占的人口數約為0.5%,但監獄內所占的
卻不成比例的0.209%。
另外,美國人認為它們是以基督教立國的,這可是神的國度耶!
應該是個路上都是聖人的地方吧?
不過他們的犯罪率卻是有目共睹,
相信有神就不會想犯罪? 看來不過是個笑話。
Appendix: 1997 Federal Bureau of Prisons from Denise Golumbaski, as formatted
in Rice/Swift
Note that in this version, the names of a couple of religious groups remain
non-standardized, and self-identified "Atheist" remains separate from
"Unknown/None."
Response Number %
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Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
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Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381
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Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners' religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody)
----------------------------
Total In Prisons 96968
資料來源:
http://kuso.cc/3P1F
http://kuso.cc/3P6& 美國信仰人口分布統計
有興趣的可以依關鍵字:church attendance & murder rate
會查到有趣的資料.....
美國church attendance最高的州是 Louisiana
但murder rate卻也是全美的兩倍。
或許是個有趣的巧合吧~科科。
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◆ From: 59.114.131.9
1F:推 Eslin:因為他們認為神是唯一道德來源 09/02 12:00
2F:→ krisnight:對他們來說,不信神的好人依然是道德淪喪的 09/02 12:43
3F:推 colin90149:神作為道德權威的背書 這個論證無法成立 09/02 13:44
4F:推 DJYeh:沒有附上各宗教佔的人口比例? 09/02 16:05
※ 編輯: Ensanguine 來自: 59.114.131.9 (09/02 18:08)
5F:推 gred121:應該要做信教的犯罪人口比例調查 09/02 18:44
6F:推 NoTime: 就是因為做壞事,所以需要禱告以求慰藉啊! 09/04 13:45
經過gred121提供的靈感,去孤狗了一下。
找到一篇寫的還不錯的報告,
http://tinyurl.com/dycnt
他在分類的方式是:
1.I know God really exists and I have no doubt about it
= absolutely believe in god
2.2-3 times a month + once a week or more
= attend religious services at least several times a month
3.several times a week - several times a day
= pray at least several times a week
4.the Bible is the actual word of God and it is to be taken literally,
word for word = Bible literalists;
5.human beings developed from earlier species of animals
= accept human evolution
6.I don’t know whether there is a God and I don’t believe there is a way to
find out + I don’t believe in God = agnostics and other atheists
參與調查的國家為:
A = Australia
C = Canada
D = Denmark
E = Great Britain
F = France
G = Germany
H = Holland
I = Ireland
J = Japan
L = Switzerland
N = Norway
P = Portugal
R = Austria
S = Spain
T = Italy
U = United States
W = Sweden
Z = New Zealand
調查的種類分別為:謀殺率、性病感染率、未婚懷孕率、墮胎率、青少年自殺率等等。
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以下是擷取自這篇文章一些有趣的結果...
1.文中引用富蘭克林所說的話:
“religion will be a powerful regulator of our actions, give us peace and
tranquility within our minds, and render us benevolent, useful and beneficial
to others” (Isaacson: 87-88).
雖然美國算是有神論國家中很繁榮的,但其社會卻沒在富蘭克林預測的和平、安寧。
也揭開美國認為自己是上帝被祝福的"shining city on the hill"的假象。
2.日本是宗教信仰程度最低而科學理論接受程度最高的國家。
3.美國是宗教信仰程度最高而科學理論接受程度最低的國家。
4.美國在這些社會障礙及健康功能指標中,幾乎都拔得頭籌...
突然覺得有一句話很貼切,
尼采:「一棵樹要長得更高,接受更多的光明,那麼它的根就必須更深入黑暗。」
※ 編輯: Ensanguine 來自: 59.114.133.138 (09/04 16:16)
※ 編輯: Ensanguine 來自: 59.114.133.138 (09/04 16:22)
7F:→ Ensanguine:科學理論指的是進化論 09/04 17:33
8F:推 legenthume:英文看不懂 那個報告的結果是?? 09/04 20:12