作者Ensanguine (残废的理性)
看板Atheism
标题[讨论]相信无神的就没道德观?
时间Tue Sep 2 11:58:33 2008
很多信仰有神的卫道份子,总认为atheist=道德沦丧
但是以下数据推翻掉这些批评,
在美国atheist所占的人口数约为0.5%,但监狱内所占的
却不成比例的0.209%。
另外,美国人认为它们是以基督教立国的,这可是神的国度耶!
应该是个路上都是圣人的地方吧?
不过他们的犯罪率却是有目共睹,
相信有神就不会想犯罪? 看来不过是个笑话。
Appendix: 1997 Federal Bureau of Prisons from Denise Golumbaski, as formatted
in Rice/Swift
Note that in this version, the names of a couple of religious groups remain
non-standardized, and self-identified "Atheist" remains separate from
"Unknown/None."
Response Number %
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Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222%
Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009%
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Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381
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Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners' religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody)
----------------------------
Total In Prisons 96968
资料来源:
http://kuso.cc/3P1F
http://kuso.cc/3P6& 美国信仰人口分布统计
有兴趣的可以依关键字:church attendance & murder rate
会查到有趣的资料.....
美国church attendance最高的州是 Louisiana
但murder rate却也是全美的两倍。
或许是个有趣的巧合吧~科科。
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1F:推 Eslin:因为他们认为神是唯一道德来源 09/02 12:00
2F:→ krisnight:对他们来说,不信神的好人依然是道德沦丧的 09/02 12:43
3F:推 colin90149:神作为道德权威的背书 这个论证无法成立 09/02 13:44
4F:推 DJYeh:没有附上各宗教占的人口比例? 09/02 16:05
※ 编辑: Ensanguine 来自: 59.114.131.9 (09/02 18:08)
5F:推 gred121:应该要做信教的犯罪人口比例调查 09/02 18:44
6F:推 NoTime: 就是因为做坏事,所以需要祷告以求慰藉啊! 09/04 13:45
经过gred121提供的灵感,去孤狗了一下。
找到一篇写的还不错的报告,
http://tinyurl.com/dycnt
他在分类的方式是:
1.I know God really exists and I have no doubt about it
= absolutely believe in god
2.2-3 times a month + once a week or more
= attend religious services at least several times a month
3.several times a week - several times a day
= pray at least several times a week
4.the Bible is the actual word of God and it is to be taken literally,
word for word = Bible literalists;
5.human beings developed from earlier species of animals
= accept human evolution
6.I don’t know whether there is a God and I don’t believe there is a way to
find out + I don’t believe in God = agnostics and other atheists
参与调查的国家为:
A = Australia
C = Canada
D = Denmark
E = Great Britain
F = France
G = Germany
H = Holland
I = Ireland
J = Japan
L = Switzerland
N = Norway
P = Portugal
R = Austria
S = Spain
T = Italy
U = United States
W = Sweden
Z = New Zealand
调查的种类分别为:谋杀率、性病感染率、未婚怀孕率、堕胎率、青少年自杀率等等。
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以下是撷取自这篇文章一些有趣的结果...
1.文中引用富兰克林所说的话:
“religion will be a powerful regulator of our actions, give us peace and
tranquility within our minds, and render us benevolent, useful and beneficial
to others” (Isaacson: 87-88).
虽然美国算是有神论国家中很繁荣的,但其社会却没在富兰克林预测的和平、安宁。
也揭开美国认为自己是上帝被祝福的"shining city on the hill"的假象。
2.日本是宗教信仰程度最低而科学理论接受程度最高的国家。
3.美国是宗教信仰程度最高而科学理论接受程度最低的国家。
4.美国在这些社会障碍及健康功能指标中,几乎都拔得头筹...
突然觉得有一句话很贴切,
尼采:「一棵树要长得更高,接受更多的光明,那麽它的根就必须更深入黑暗。」
※ 编辑: Ensanguine 来自: 59.114.133.138 (09/04 16:16)
※ 编辑: Ensanguine 来自: 59.114.133.138 (09/04 16:22)
7F:→ Ensanguine:科学理论指的是进化论 09/04 17:33
8F:推 legenthume:英文看不懂 那个报告的结果是?? 09/04 20:12