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What sort of timeline are the Pelicans aiming for to compete for a champions hip? If they run it back, I think the team could compete for the 7-10 seed n ext year. Is the front office ok with that kind of gradual improvement, or d o you think they’re going all-in to try and win now? — Joshua D. 你认为球队什麽时候才会开始考虑争冠,我认为球队下赛季的目标会是西区第七到第十 ,你认为球队会继续缓慢前进,还是会考虑尝试赢在当下? It’s tough to start putting championship expectations on a team led by a gu y who hasn’t even turned 21 yet. Zion Williamson’s growth in his second se ason was unlike anything we’ve seen for a player his age, and he’s already established himself among the elite players in this league. 很难把一支由还没有满21岁的球员带领的球队纳入争冠的考虑,不过Zion在第二个赛季 的成长是无与伦比的,他正朝着精英级别球员的方向前进。 It’ll still take some time for him to grasp what’s required of him to be t he consistent leader on both ends that New Orleans needs to grow into a real contender one day. I mean,蟖uka Doncics right up there with Williamson as far as unprecedented success for a player at such a young age, and Doncic s till hasn’t made it out of the first round of the playoffs yet. Not to ment ion, he landed with a franchise that has a much longer track record of winni ng than New Orleans. 他还需要时间才能成长为在攻防两端都能带领球队的球员,就像鹈鹕也需要时间去提高 竞争力一样。 比如说另一名超新星Luka Doncic,他所在的独行侠比鹈鹕要强很多,但 他也从来没突破过首轮季後赛。 Making the playoffs — or at least the Play-In Tournament — has to be the b are minimum for this group with all of its young talent and the two stars le ading the way. Winning consistently in the West is always a grueling task, a nd it seems like it’s only going to get tougher as some of the other young squads competing with New Orleans continue to grow. 打进季後赛,或者至少打进附加赛,应该是这支天赋满满,有两名球星的球队下赛季的 最低目标。 在西区能持续赢球一直是一项挑战,而接下来几年,随着西区其它年轻球队 的成长,赢球只会变得更加困难。 If Damian Lillard places a trade request, would you package BI with all the Pelicans picks plus additional players to make a super team with Zion & Dami an? — Charles S. 如果Lillard申请交易,你会把鹈鹕所有的选秀权和Ingram以及其他球员一起打包,来打 造一支由Zion和Lillard组成的超级球队吗? Let me start here: I don’t believe Lillard will be going anywhere this offs eason. He’s been far too loyal to Portland, and the Trail Blazers just gave him an enormous contract extension in 2019 that kicks in next season. I don ’t think Pels fans should be getting their hopes up anytime soon for a Lill ard trade. 我认为Lillard近期哪里也不会去。 他对拓荒者有够忠诚,拓荒者也在2019年给了他顶 薪合约,球迷不该对他抱什麽期望。 But if he were to become available miraculously, the Pels would be insane no t to pursue him — even if it meant giving up Ingram. There would be a list of teams willing to throw their best assets on the table to get a guy like L illard. 不过,如果这件事真的发生了,那麽球队应该全力追求他,哪怕这意味着要放弃Ingram ,为了得到Lillard这样的球员,会有很多球队愿意把他们最好的资产放在台面桌上。 Now, the question is what would it take to get him? A deal centered around I ngram, Jaxson Hayes and two or three first-round picks would probably be the minimum Portland is looking for. My guess Portland would want Kira Lewis Jr . or Nickeil Alexander-Walker to be involved in the deal as well. I’d prefe r to keep Alexander-Walker in a deal like this because he’d be a better fit defensively next to Lillard. 所以怎样才能得到他呢? Ingram加上Hayes,再加上两到三个首轮选秀权,波特兰可能 才会开始看你的报价,他们可能还会要求加上Kira Lewis,或者Alexander-Walker, 这 时候我会倾向於留下Walker,他更适合与Lillard搭档。 If the Blazers counter and say they’re looking for something closer to four or five picks for Lillard, I may get a little hesitant. He turns 31 in July , and he has an incredible amount of money still left on his contract. He’s owed more than $45 million in his age 33 season and more than $48 million i n his age 34 season. 但如果拓荒者要价4-5个选秀权,我可能会犹豫,因为他今年七月份就满31岁了,还背着 巨大的合约,33岁赛季的薪水是4500万,34岁则是4800 万美元。 That’s a whole lot of money to be giving a small point guard late in his ca reer. If you look back in NBA history, most of the guys in Lillard’s size r ange tend to fall off a cliff once they reach their mid-30s. Paul is current ly showing it’s possible to win at the highest level with an older point gu ard, but is it a guarantee Lillard will be able to do the same late in his c areer? It’s hard to predict at this point. 对於一个在职业生涯後期的矮小控球後卫来说,这是一大笔钱。 如果你回顾一下NBA的 历史,大多数像Lillard这种体型的球员一旦到了30岁多岁就会容易断崖式下跌。 虽然 保罗证明了矮小控卫也能保持很久的巅峰,但这毕竟是少数,我们能保证Lillard也能做 到吗? Ultimately, I’m always a proponent of betting on talent and hoping for the best. The idea of Lillard splashing 3s from halfcourt and Williamson dunking on people in the same offense is utterly terrifying. And the guidance Lilla rd can provide for Williamson during this crucial point in his career would be invaluable. Does it guarantee New Orleans a title? Of course not. But it would put them closer than they’ve ever been. 虽然如此,如果鹈鹕同时能够拥有Lillard的半场三分和Zion的暴力灌篮,该有多麽恐怖 That’s a whole lot of money to be giving a small point guard late in his ca reer. If you look back in NBA history, most of the guys in Lillard’s size r ange tend to fall off a cliff once they reach their mid-30s. Paul is current ly showing it’s possible to win at the highest level with an older point gu ard, but is it a guarantee Lillard will be able to do the same late in his c areer? It’s hard to predict at this point. 对於一个在职业生涯後期的矮小控球後卫来说,这是一大笔钱。 如果你回顾一下NBA的 历史,大多数像Lillard这种体型的球员一旦到了30岁多岁就会容易断崖式下跌。 虽然 保罗证明了矮小控卫也能保持很久的巅峰,但这毕竟是少数,我们能保证Lillard也能做 到吗? Ultimately, I’m always a proponent of betting on talent and hoping for the best. The idea of Lillard splashing 3s from halfcourt and Williamson dunking on people in the same offense is utterly terrifying. And the guidance Lilla rd can provide for Williamson during this crucial point in his career would be invaluable. Does it guarantee New Orleans a title? Of course not. But it would put them closer than they’ve ever been. 虽然如此,如果鹈鹕同时能够拥有Lillard的半场三分和Zion的暴力灌篮,该有多麽恐怖 ? 而且Lillard能够给Zion提供的指导将是无价的,这能保证为鹈鹕带来总冠军吗? 当 然不行。 但是,这会让他们比以前任何时候都要接近。 Should the Pels seriously think about trading BI? If you designed the ideal “2nd best player on a Zion-led team,” how much would that player look like BI? I think – not very much. You’d want someone like Klay Thompson – A+ defender, A+ shooter, does not need the ball. BI is arguably as bad a defend er as Zion (with less reason to think he will improve), and does not fancy h imself a spot-up shooter, so he doesn’t do it. BI is a good player, but doe sn’t seem to fit well with Zion. — Derek M. 我认为Ingram不是合格的二当家,最好的二当家应该是像KT那样的顶级攻防的3D球员, Ingram防守和Zion一样差,也不是射手,他和Zion真心不搭,球队有考虑交易他吗? I’ve seen quite a few people running with this narrative since the season, and it’s stunning to me. I couldn’t disagree more with people who are in s uch a rush to get rid of an All-Star who’s under 25 years old and was more than happy to commit to a long-term deal to stay in New Orleans. How many of those guys do you think are readily available at the moment? 从本赛季开始以来我看过很多人这样说,我看到的第一反应是很震惊。 为什麽你们这麽 想摆脱一名25岁以下的球星呢,他还十分乐意与鹈鹕签下长约,现在市场上还有多少这 可以去问问活塞、骑士、火箭和雷霆这样的球队,他们有多麽希望Ingram是他们队里第 二好的球员。 鹈鹕本赛季的失败只能说明Zion和Ingram身边的角色球员有多麽不适合他 们,而不是他们两人之间有多麽不适合。 Does Ingram need to show massive improvement on defense? Of course. He’s go t to understand his role will be different now that so much of the offense i s going to flow through Williamson. There have to be other ways he can impac t the game outside of scoring. 当然,Ingram必须提升自己的防守,因为现在球队的进攻是围绕着Zion展开,Ingram必须找到其他影响比赛的方式。 Ingram is an incredible talent, and I think it’s easy to overlook that beca use Williamson looks like a superhero from a different planet at times. Ingram很有天赋,但在超级英雄般的Zion面前,人们很容易忽视这一点。 The best way to build a consistent winner is by acquiring multiple stars and building around them. The Pelicans were lucky enough to figure out the most challenging part of that equation almost immediately after drafting William son. Their next job is to figure out what kind of players they need to compl ement those two. Tossing Ingram aside this early in the process would be one of the worst decisions the organization could ever make — unless you can g et someone better than him. 球队想建立赢球文化的最好办法是得到多名球星,并围绕他们建队。 鹈鹕在得到Ingra m、选中Zion後已经很快地做到了第一步,他们接下来的工作就是找到最适合他们二人的 其他拼图,现在就把Ingram姆丢出去是最差的决定,除非你能找到比他更好的人选。 https://reurl.cc/zeARXy --
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1F:推 Kappa : 裤子+德软 我湖小亏06/17 18:45
2F:推 beckseaton : 西门如何06/17 18:46
3F:推 kenny30139 : 英滚听完他这样讲会不会气氛XD06/17 18:48
4F:推 c871111116 : IG+Ball+Hart换AD如何06/17 18:48
5F:推 AngelNo13 : Lillard+Zion?没感觉到很强啊06/17 18:48
6F:推 jack8587 : 黑肉+德软+裤子换球哥+zion,我湖小亏06/17 18:49
7F:→ VL1003 : 没什麽好气氛的,整篇就跑鹈鹕的记者在跟网友 Q&A06/17 18:50
8F:→ VL1003 : 如果今天这篇是管理层来讲才有可能气氛吧06/17 18:51
ement those two. Tossing Ingram aside this early in the process would be one of the worst decisions the organization could ever make — unless you can g et someone better than him. 球队想建立赢球文化的最好办法是得到多名球星,并围绕他们建队。 鹈鹕在得到Ingra m、选中Zion後已经很快地做到了第一步,他们接下来的工作就是找到最适合他们二人的 其他拼图,现在就把Ingram姆丢出去是最差的决定,除非你能找到比他更好的人选。 https://reurl.cc/zeARXy --
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※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 101.137.167.4 (台湾)
※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/NBA/M.1623926593.A.DEB.html
9F:推 Kappa : 裤子+德软 我湖小亏06/17 18:45
10F:推 beckseaton : 西门如何06/17 18:46
11F:推 kenny30139 : 英滚听完他这样讲会不会气氛XD06/17 18:48
12F:推 c871111116 : IG+Ball+Hart换AD如何06/17 18:48
13F:推 AngelNo13 : Lillard+Zion?没感觉到很强啊06/17 18:48
14F:推 jack8587 : 黑肉+德软+裤子换球哥+zion,我湖小亏06/17 18:49
15F:→ VL1003 : 没什麽好气氛的,整篇就跑鹈鹕的记者在跟网友 Q&A06/17 18:50
16F:→ VL1003 : 如果今天这篇是管理层来讲才有可能气氛吧06/17 18:51
※ 编辑: mingonly (101.137.167.4 台湾), 06/17/2021 18:56:27
17F:推 gibbs1286 : 有需要动IG交易的球员都是各队非卖品球星吧XD 06/17 18:57
18F:推 s87995109 : 有更好的 换很正常啊 06/17 18:57
19F:→ mingonly : 呃 改个错字 怎麽推文跑到文章上面去 .. 奇怪了 06/17 18:59
20F:推 jyekid : IG可以练成二当家没问题啦 就怕他身体之前的毛病 06/17 19:00
21F:推 sustainer123: KP换IG 06/17 19:06
22F:→ gibbs1286 : KP换IG是爽到独行侠吧XD 06/17 19:07
23F:推 kurenaiz : 小独:成交 06/17 19:10
24F:→ loserloser : 记者讲的有什麽好气氛 06/17 19:16
25F:推 gto731216 : KP拿去换西门好了 06/17 19:18
26F:推 saobing : 西门+拖把可以吗 06/17 19:18
27F:推 jackal44748 : KP跟你换 成交 06/17 19:21
28F:推 every70213 : Ig不够换西门拖把吧 除非想省钱 06/17 19:22
29F:推 hunder31 : 我牛KP要不要? 考虑一下啦 拜托 06/17 19:24
30F:推 Coffeewater : IG没这麽烂,至少可以养成Wiggin等级 06/17 19:25
31F:推 matsuwu : 水鸟记者感觉是小将迷XD 06/17 19:26
32F:→ matsuwu : IG现在就是AW等级了吧? 06/17 19:27
33F:推 dwiee : 可以拿到小李的话 交易也可以 zion等不及了 06/17 19:28
34F:推 tjtcgcha : CJ单换IG 我拓小赚 06/17 19:29
35F:推 slamblock15 : 交易西门啦 至少保底季後赛 早点给胖虎累积经验也 06/17 19:29
36F:→ slamblock15 : 好 06/17 19:29
37F:推 hid53924 : ig拿去换西门吧 06/17 19:35
38F:推 sustainer123: ig进攻屌打围巾啦 守备还要练 06/17 19:36
39F:→ sustainer123: KP其实能帮Zioncover守备+拉开空间 健康的话:)) 06/17 19:36
40F:推 kem0606 : BI换西门?没进过季後赛的人 06/17 19:38
41F:→ sosad0128 : (没看内文纯说标题):哪个交易不是找到更好人选? 06/17 19:43
42F:推 piercetruth : IG搭配铅笔比西门适合 至少空间能拉开 还不会被骇 06/17 19:44
43F:→ sosad0128 : 不是都是选择当下对自己球团最有利的才会交易吗? 06/17 19:44
44F:推 ariesbreeze : 要换真正的A级球星 例如AD 06/17 19:46
45F:推 jyekid : Zion下季的定位究竟会不会是控球前锋呢 06/17 19:48
46F:→ YamagiN : Zion配西门? 干进攻全挤里面? 天才 06/17 19:50
47F:推 jun83113 : IG 换 J.Harris + S.Dinwiddie 06/17 19:50
48F:推 jyekid : Zion 西门 亚尼斯 油漆区挤好挤满 06/17 19:51
49F:推 josephpu : 这剧本我知道,到最後技安得去三分线当射手 06/17 19:51
50F:推 o0991758566 : IG都进过全明星了 还围巾等级... 06/17 19:51
51F:推 sunnydragon7: 找西门来里面更挤 06/17 19:53
52F:推 AtDe : IG换小李,这可以 06/17 19:59
53F:推 gibbs1286 : IG配77应该满搭的 06/17 20:04
54F:推 Ten6666 : 围绕Zion建立进攻体系 英滚当第二持球点 06/17 20:08
55F:→ Ten6666 : 这两个感觉没有不合啊 没整合好而已 06/17 20:09
56F:→ Lattendue : IG是比较偏进攻後 才感觉防守没了 不然他防守没到惨 06/17 20:14
57F:→ Lattendue : 吧?? 06/17 20:14
58F:推 mambaout414 : 换CJ 我拓小亏 06/17 20:17
59F:推 Ten6666 : 鹈鹕防守不好是整个体系的问题 06/17 20:18
60F:推 swingingbear: 进攻屌打围巾? 别说笑好吗 06/17 20:23
61F:推 sustainer123: ig今年per19 围巾per15 生涯最高也就17.5 06/17 20:26
62F:→ sustainer123: 不对 围巾最高16.5 06/17 20:26
63F:推 GoodDonkey : IG换围巾,我勇小亏 06/17 20:41
64F:→ o0991758566 : IG攻防都屌打围巾阿 有什麽奇怪的 06/17 21:10
65F:推 YU0158 : 防守是围巾屌打吧 06/17 21:14
66F:推 JMashburn : IG换西门 双赢 06/17 21:34
67F:推 scatman : Zion配小李,感觉防守会很破。绿叶要挑防守好的帮忙 06/17 21:55
68F:推 sacbin : 上面的都没参考性 LBJ+德软换zion+ball+ig我湖小亏 06/17 22:06
69F:推 rachelc : IG的协防也是惨到不行的那种 今年打没几场就被丢去 06/17 22:28
70F:→ rachelc : 协防整个惨不忍睹 常常一直看持球者就忘记自己对位 06/17 22:28
71F:→ rachelc : 的人 06/17 22:28
72F:→ rachelc : 小李要真的开吹 06/17 22:30
73F:→ rachelc : 你出BI+Hayes+选秀权基本上没人能更大包了 只是鹈鹕 06/17 22:30
74F:→ rachelc : 防守又会更惨就是了 06/17 22:30
75F:→ rachelc : 但要说跟围巾同等级我也是不知道要说什麽 在咖哩这 06/17 22:33
76F:→ rachelc : 种顶级射手旁边都刷不出来了… 06/17 22:33
77F:推 kobe1006 : 姆斯<>英滚+鸭蛋 我湖小亏 06/17 22:49
78F:推 ALIENKUO : KP拿去 06/17 23:14
79F:推 a509170123 : 推推 06/18 14:55
80F:推 stja : 06/18 18:11







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