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内容很多,我慢慢翻各位慢慢看。长时间翻译+深夜,有错请包涵。 首先是Storm公开徵求MM娘犯傻的照片,目前TXSPG的权重和TXHT一样,所以有可能 一队有HT当顶车,另外一边是SPG当顶车。 Today’s issue is “interesting”. Basically, what happened: a flood of artywhiners, moaning about arty nerfs started spamming the developer thread and SerB switched to troll mode, as he usually does. Well… you’ll see. 因为RU已经改版完成,所以所有对SPG现状不满的人(包含觉得弱到不能玩的和强过头的) 都跳出来猛炮WG,所以SerB采取了相应的处理...XD - red screen of death is apparently back for 0.8.6, happens allegedly in sniper mode, the new detail reduction system automatically sets everything to minimum and then crashes. SerB’s answer: “Write a support ticket” 狙击模式下萤幕变红的问题又冒出来了,新的细节省略系统看来会把所有的效能调到最低 ,接着就当掉了。SerB表示「去写投诉单」。 - the shell prices were rebalanced not only based on their damage and penetration, but also based on the type of the gun they are used in. That’s why the (weaker) premium KV-5 shells are more expensive than (stronger) premium KV-4 subcaliber shells. 炮弹价格不只是依照之前提过的性价比调整,也会依照炮种调整,这是为什麽KV-5的 107mm APCR比KV-4的107mm APCR还要贵。 (这跟没解释也没差多少) - devs don’t think the tier 8 premium vehicles with limited MM will suffer from the tier 9 arty (too much) 开发组不觉得把分房保护的T8金币车扔去给T9SPG砸是什麽大问题 - further measures to reduce arty amount (SS: RU server reports the same 5v5 arty battles as before)? “If necessery” 以後还会砍SPG吗?(SS:RU还是出现了5v5纯炮兵分房) 「有必要的话」 - currently it can be assumed, that tier 10 arty is balanced towards tier 10 tanks 目前可以推定TXSPG的权重和TXHT一样(所以Storm正在研究) =SerB的新技能:NPC模式= - Q: “All the guns now have basically the same accuracy!” (SS: common complain is that the guns are too accurate) A: “How terrible…” 「现在所有炮都一样准啦!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 - Q: “Too many fires caused by accurate guns!” A: “How terrible…” 「炮太准整天烧引擎啊!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 - Q: “Mods not working!” A: “How terrible…” 「mod不能用!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 - Q: “Priest moved to another tier, wtf?” A: “How terrible…” (SS: this question was even in rhymes :) ) 「牧师式被拉到三阶,搞毛啊!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 (SS表示原本的问题还是押韵的...) - Q: “The amount of arties did not get lower…” A: “How terrible…” 「SPG的数量根本没变少啊!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 Well, basically, “How terrible…” was the answer on most complaints about 0.8.6. There is a lot of whine, including “hidden arty buff”. Some exchanges are actually really funny: 总之SerB对所有抱怨8.6的人差不多都是这样处理,抱怨的内容包山包海还包含有人觉得 SPG被偷偷buff过。以下是精选集: Player Vesil: “I am quitting the game!” SerB: “How terrible…” 「老子不玩啦!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 Player Vesil: “You don’t have much of a vocabulary” SerB: “How terrible… ” 「你就只会讲这个吗!」 「喔好恐怖喔」 Player LordStuped: “Do you have to make fun of players, who don’t like the patch?” SerB: “How terrible…” 「你一定要这样取笑不喜欢这次改版的玩家吗?」 「喔好恐怖喔」 - Q: “FPS dropped significantly…” A: “How terrible…” 「FPS掉得很严重」 「喔好恐怖喔」 (later, when asked whether he doesn’t respect players, SerB states: “It is necessery to distinguish players and idiots. Those are two (unfortunately still somewhat overlapping) categories. We do respect players, but with idiots it’s not that simple. This (thread trollflood) happens regularily – idiots come here and the thread topic is temporarily exhausted (SS: as in out of order)”) SerB之後回应他不尊重玩家这点:「我们必须把玩家和蠢货分开处理,因为他们是两群 (很不幸的有重叠部分的)人。我们会尊重玩家,但是对於蠢货有别的处理方法。现在 的状况常常发生,蠢货大批出现让Q&A用串整个瘫痪(所以必须troll他们?)」 - ingame penetration indicator works automatically, there is no need to manually adjust values for it 游戏中的穿甲指示器是全自动的,不需要调整任何数值。 - dynamic camera is apparently fine: “you can turn it off (if you want to)” 动态摄影机功能表现良好,如果想要可以关掉。 - Q: “Why did you decide not to implement the British arty with autoloader?” A: “Beause the arty doesn’t come in this patch.” (SS: not sure what SerB exactly means, probably just a brushoff, either way, the British arty with autoloaders doesn’t appear in the leaked British arty branch) 「为什麽没有在这版加入有自动装弹机的UKSPG?」 「因为这版就是没有」 (SS:不太确定SerB的意思是什麽,总之在目前已知的资讯中UKSPG没有自动装弹机) - it’s possible there will be various sound settings for 2.0, 2.1 and 5.1 sound 未来可能会针对2.0、2.1和5.1声道分别做音效设定 - when near tank corpses, jerking of the aim circle left and right is likely the effect of dynamic camera 当靠近战车残骸时瞄准圈突然跳到旁边去可能是因为动态摄影机 - 8.7 will be a simple patch, containing apparently only content (vehicles,maps), not functional changes. SerB confirms 8.7 will bring British arty. 8.7会是个小更新,只会给内容(新车新地图),不会变动游戏机制。 SerB确认8.7是UKSPG - developers won’t be able to judge the effect of 8.6, when 8.7 comes out (SS: meaning it will come soon), the results will most likely be known in 8.8 tho (SS: later, Storm stated that it takes roughly a month to collect the date, it’s therefore logical to assume that the British arty will come within the month) 大意:改版带来的後果要大约一个月来评估,8.6的影响会在8.8检讨(也就是说8.7应该会 在七月更新) - the average battle duration is cca 7 minutes and it practically hasn’t changed since the game came out 从游戏问世起平均战斗时间就是七分钟前後 - developers are considering the implementation of T58 (T57 Heavy with a 155mm gun) – not as a CW reward vehicle, but apparently as a regular one – but SerB states that it’s hard to balance (as in, overpowered) 制作组其实有考虑把T58放进来,不是做为公会战奖品而是一般银币车。 SerB表示问题是太难平衡(6发155炮弹仓) - shell ejector animation might be added, “when it’s done it’s done” 退弹壳动画可能会加入,WIDID - Q: “I went thru the thread, not enough concrete answers, just ridicule…” A: “I went thru the thread, not enough concrete questions. How terrible…” 「我把整篇都读完了,没什麽具体的回答,超荒谬的」 「我把整篇都读完了,没什麽具体的问题,好恐怖喔」 - SerB explains his attitude towards forum whiners: out of all the active players (those who play once per month), only 1/10000 are whiners, who try to pretend to be the “voice of the nation”. SerB finds that amusing. SerB表示他对论坛上嘴炮的想法:「在活跃玩家中有0.01%的嘴炮大湿想假装自己的意见 就是人民的声音」,SerB觉得很欢乐。 - Westfield map was changed (SS: not sure I know how exactly, something about the sloped access from the village near the bridge towards the left base being removed), it was intentional Westfield有些地图变动,这是故意的 - the game is changed in big patches (rather then series of small minipatches), because: “That’s the general speed of development. The project is complicated, any changes must be accompanied by serious program testing. That’s not possible when doing frequent minipatches.” 游戏是用大更新而不是连续的小更新模式,因为「这是我们整体的开发速度,计划本身 很复杂,而所有的更动都要严格的测试,用很多小更新就不可能这样做」 - it’s possible the possibility to sell Superpershing for gold will come even after 8.7 – it’s necessery to implement the mechanism for that first. 超潘退货可能会延後到8.7以後,因为要先做出退货用的机制。 (其实可以参照坑爹网的做法,自行卖车,接着由官方发金币之类的) “It’s not a complicated mechanism, but as this matter concerns money, it will have to be tested thoroughly.” 「其实不是个复杂的机制,但是既然牵涉到钱,我们就得彻底测试」 - SerB on arty: “It was created to limit the heavies and especially heavily armored tank destroyers. The changes were designed to reduce arty effectivity against fast vehicles, while keeping the “heavy tank killer” function.” SerB表示SPG的主要任务就是对付重装车种,特别是重装TD,这次的改版把SPG对抗 快车的能力减弱,但是主任务能力保持不变。 - SerB doesn’t think the shell distribution within the aim circle will change further SerB不觉得炮弹落点散布会再改 - current maps being developed are mostly based on exotic regions, so that Clanwars maps can use those. Future maps will be more traditional, such as a “USSR city in winter” (this is an example) 目前的地图主要是外国(对俄罗斯来说),是为了放到CW地图,未来会有一些更传统的, 例如说冬季的苏联城市之类的。 - there are still issues with making the friendlist and ignorelist longer, when it comes to easy ignorelist cleaning, the developers are waiting for the new reworked chat, they don’t want any temporary solutions 还在研究更大的好友名单和无视清单,制作组会在交谈系统更新的时候一并处理 - 0.8.6 contains no “hidden” changes in engine fire mechanism 8.6没有偷偷改引擎起火机制 - SerB states that FCM50t is doing fine in 0.8.6, players just need to play it properly – as a medium, not as a heavy, it’s sort of “anti-Superpershing ” SerB表示FCM50T在8.6表现良好,只要把他当假HT真MT开就好,某种意义上它是「逆超潘」 - there will be no “spring” special camo implemented 不打算加入春季迷彩样式 - there will be no “art of war” competition for arty, because the devs want to nerf it, not make players play it more 不打算举办SPG版本的经验值竞赛,因为和开发方向相反。 - it’s unlikely that second German TD line will come in upcoming patches, but it will most likely come before the Chinese arty DE第二TD线(WT线)短期内不会登场,但是会比CNSPG更早 - MM mechanism itself did not change in 0.8.6 MM机制本身在8.6没有更动 - the exact percentual effect of the camo net will not be disclosed (it’s not confirmed 0.8.6 camo net gives a 25 percent bonus) 伪装网在8.6的实际数据没有公布(不确定是不是维持25%) - Storm is working on new camo system description article Storm正在写新隐蔽机制介绍文 - it’s not possible to make the dynamic camera not-optional, because that would mean transferring the camera calculations to the server. If it becomes possible, the camera will become compulsory. 不会允许自由选择要不要使用动态摄影机,因为这样会把运算工作全部扔到伺服器端。 如果说允许自由选择,那视角会是钉死的。 - whether your ammorack is full of shells or not (whether you loaded all the shells) has no effect on tank characteristics (doesn’t limit movement like the weight does). This is intentional, so that people wouldn’t go into battle with only a few shells and then screw their team by running around with no ammo 车上的弹药量不影响任何性能,这是为了避免有些蠢货只带几颗炮弹玩飙车 - it’s possible that one of the upcoming patches will contain something to improve the account security (no details yet) 未来某一版会加强帐号安全措施(暂时没细节) - worldoftanks.ru portal is visited by less than 1 percent of active players 会看wot.ru的活跃玩家少於1% (真的?) - the gold consumables for 1/2 price can also an experiment (SS: which probably means that if it is successful enough, it will stay) 高阶消耗品半价可以视为某种实验(SS:如果结果是成功的话,价格大概就会维持这样) - functions inspired by some mods will continue to be added, if the mods don’ t break the game that is 某些借镜於mod的功能会加入,只要这些mod不会干扰游戏本身 - further tier9/10 arty nerfs? “If necessery. We decide, what is necessery.” T9/TXSPG进一步nerf?「我们决定需不需要」 - devs don’t consider the French premium arty (LeFH) to be directly nerfed, it won’t be possible to sell it for gold – as for mechanism changes (such as accuracy for arties, or the lower 105mm HEAT penetration), those affect more vehicles than just the LeFH, that’s why they are not considered direct nerfs 开发组认为lefh 18B2并没有被特别nerf,影响表现的机制(弹着点、105HEAT)对其他车 都有效,所以不退钱。 - Storm states that the sounds of impact were even more “bland” in real life, it’s not like the tank was supposed to “ring” like a bell Storm表示真实世界中被命中的声音是很多声音的混合,不像游戏里面就锵一声。 - the mechanism of bush camo was not changed from 0.8.5 树丛给予的隐蔽和8.5一样没有变动 - no rebalances of light tanks (in connection with the new tier 9/10 arties) are planned 不打算相应於SPG来重新平衡LT - the E-100 turret moving, that was deemed “too much” earlier will be eventually revisited, but it has very, very low priority 总之毛子承认他们把E100的炮塔挪太前面了,但是调回去的优先顺序很低 - in 0.8.6, second ricochet of a shell is still impossible 8.6炮弹还是有可能连续弹两次 - the developers are tracking the effect of various game changes on the amount of people buying gold 制作组在追踪游戏更动对於金币销量的影响 - apparently, there was a second Superpershing historical variant, but the developers decided to implement the one, which they had more data on 史实上似乎有两种超潘,但是制作组选择做资料比较多的那种 - the loader perk Adrenaline Rush 10 percent HP threshold won’t be increased 肾上腺素爆发的10%血量发动标准不会改 - according to SerB, the fact that the tank disappears one second after it is lit up can happen, it’s neither a bug, nor a change in 0.8.6 SerB表示敌车在点亮後1秒就不见是有可能的,这不是bug也不是8.6的新内容 - the “tasks” on test server (SS: you know, the thing where you did recieve ridiculously high rewards for god knows what) was just an experiment PT上的任务系统只是测试性质 - apparently, voting (about WG matters) in the game won’t be implemented 不会实施游戏中投票 - the ability to freeze accounts (including the run of premium account, “ vacation mode”) will not be available anytime soon – and if it comes in the future, it will be very limited. Freezing only the premium time without freezing the account itself is not even considered 短时间内不会有暂时冻结帐号(假期模式之类的)功能,也不会有只冻结P帐时间的功能 - currently, multi-level water (SS: as in, lakes at various heights, cascades etc.) is technically possible, but it won’t come soon 多层水体(例如说多层小瀑布之类的)技术上可行,但是不会在短期内开发 - Black Prince armor wasn’t changed in 0.8.6 BP的装甲在8.6没改过 - Storm states that when it comes to vehicle balance and gameplay, the “ rock-paper-scissors” principle still remains, just that there are two triangles now (HT-MT-TD and HT-arty-LT) and some of the vehicles are not as firmly belonging to one group as two years before Storm表示以游戏平衡来说是剪刀石头布的相克关系,但是有两组(HT-MT-TD和HT-SPG-LT) ,某些车和2年前的状况不一样,不一定属於哪个相克关系。 - developers are aware of the various fan-made trees, they have been corresponding with some sensible discussion participants from the threads dedicated to these fan-made trees. On this, SerB states that players in general have little authentic info on Japanese tech 制作组会关注各式各样的玩家自制科技树,他们也会和讨论中有真材实料的玩家互动 (可以看NA的两版JP科技树/以色列科技树和EU的瑞典科技树,都很经典)。 SerB顺带表示JP线讨论中玩家并没有提出太多可信的资料。 - Murazor’s (SS: a popular WoT Russian blogger) opinion is apparently not more important to devs than the opinions of other players (SS: parallels can be drawn here with SOME EU/US players, who think they influence WG at every step) Murazor(RU一个很受欢迎的blogger)的意见不比普通玩家重要 (SS表示各个伺服器都一样,某些人因为(战绩很好、在大公会etc)某些原因觉得WG得听他 们的) (garbad就是个例子) - the “sell this tank for gold” function will be available only in very limited cases when the vehicle characteristics will change significantly, definitely not a standard option 退金币只会是特例,不会作为常态功能 - the top Conqueror turret is balanced as it is apparently (SS: a player was complaining that it is actually worse than the stock turret in some aspects, SerB stated that one has to take into account the armor slope and the fact it can carry a more powerful gun) 征服者的第二个炮塔在平衡性上没问题(玩家抱怨比白板炮塔还烂,SerB表示装甲要连 角度一起算,同时只有conqueror Mk.2 可以装L1A1) - Soviet D-5T-85BM has 10 ROF on T-34/85, 11,11 ROF on T-43 and 10,53 ROF on T-44, apparently this is intentional D-5T85BM在不同车上有不同射速是故意的,包含T44比T43慢也是 - SerB states that skill MM based on some statistics (doesn’t matter what statistics) is technically possible (SS: it will not happen) SerB表示依照某些数据做技术分房是可能的(不会实施就是了,外加我也不懂为什麽有人 想要技术分房,整天和SIMP、G或是ANVIL的玩家玩根本破坏游戏体验) - “expert” medals (SS: not sure how they are called in english, master?) do not take premium tanks into account, because some premium tanks are practically impossible to meet in randoms expert成就不包含金币车,因为某些金币车超级稀有(例如说不四不五之类的,我只看过 两次) - the 0.8.6 premium shells for the Konisch gun were “sold” automatically during the patch implementation, because the developers wanted to nerf them, added them to the automatic sell list and in the end didn’t nerf them after all 8.6的konisch金弹会自动卖出,因为开发组原本想nerf,但是最後没动作 (我靠,我的仓库里面有接近三千发,如果是原价退回的话会多出六百万) - open-topped vehicles have better viewrange than other vehicles of their class (!) 开顶式车辆的视野比同阶任何车都好 - some idiot made a video with him using illegal mods and posted it in the developer thread. Made SerB happy, apparently 某个蠢蛋装了违法的mod还把影片贴到开发组串,SerB表示潮爽的 - SerB states that as far as he knows, the side mesh screens on Panzer IV Schmalturm do not work as spaced armor, it’s possible they will be added, when all the models will are reworked SerB表示据他所知四号窄炮塔型的铁丝网侧裙不是间隙装甲,不过在所有战车模型重制 的时候可能会加入。 -- 30 second countdown, someone types the master plan: "All the noobs rush the hill and the rest def" random guy: "What is def ?" "You, rush the hill..." --



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1F:推 IKAFIRE :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 01:51
2F:推 korsg :T58 Heavy听起来好诱人 06/20 01:53
3F:推 zmcef :所以现在要不要收购Konisch的金弹呢... 06/20 01:55
4F:推 hemisofia :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 02:03
5F:推 acebruce :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 02:05
6F:推 Kane1911 :恐怖喔........司马中原调 06/20 02:07
7F:推 splong :How terrible… 06/20 02:09
8F:推 lex65536 :好有个性XD 06/20 02:12
9F:推 AxelSergei :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 02:21
10F:推 jackilee :退弹"动"画 感谢翻译 好长喔XD 06/20 02:22
※ 编辑: hsinhanchu 来自: 36.231.143.87 (06/20 02:24)
11F:推 zick0704 :现在买只是原价退回~没意思啊!之前半价购入的就赚1笔 06/20 02:27
12F:推 forraykrader:喔好恐怖喔 06/20 02:35
13F:推 molukino :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 03:00
14F:推 windycat :14页 应该是"单颗炮弹还是不可能弹第二次" 06/20 04:54
15F:推 hitlerx :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 06:08
16F:→ OnlyTD :.....等等!? 之後我的88虎要面对T9 SPG吗!? 06/20 08:15
17F:→ OnlyTD :5v5纯炮兵分房wwwwwwwwww 06/20 08:16
18F:嘘 OnlyTD :...什麽假HT真MT 连SerB都这样认为了啊!? 06/20 08:18
19F:推 et134226 :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 08:23
20F:推 GALGUN :翻译辛苦了 06/20 08:41
21F:推 NineGon :翻译得很有趣 06/20 08:57
22F:推 victor0lynn :穿甲指示器王力宏那个吗 06/20 09:19
23F:→ victor0lynn :T58只有6发? 06/20 09:20
24F:→ victor0lynn :不是说不做真实世界吗????自打喔? 06/20 09:21
25F:→ victor0lynn :干涉到钱才会积极 06/20 09:22
26F:推 victor0lynn :某些借镜(抄袭)於mod的功能会加入 06/20 09:25
27F:→ victor0lynn :Storm表示真实世界中被命中的声音是很多声音的混合 06/20 09:26
28F:→ victor0lynn :WIDID 居然没接这句? 06/20 09:26
29F:→ victor0lynn :弹两次???可以弹一次就消失算了吗?弹到队友很哭哭 06/20 09:28
30F:→ korsg :T58那个应该是指一个弹夹装有6发155炮弹 06/20 09:39
31F:→ korsg :实际能带几发炮弹就不知道哩 06/20 09:40
32F:→ korsg :一轮6发155炮轰下去我看老鼠也差不多升天哩 06/20 09:41
33F:→ lsslss :32发 06/20 10:20
34F:推 fransice7 :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 12:45
35F:推 opmikoto :身为一个客服 我也好想跟他一样跟那些嘴炮玩家说 06/20 12:52
36F:→ opmikoto :喔好恐怖喔 06/20 12:52
37F:→ victor0lynn :完来是弹颊!!!6发155???哪有弹颊这麽大的!!!!! 06/20 13:57
38F:→ lsslss :所以难产终止计画阿... 06/20 14:19
39F:推 donkilu :Serb又搬出WIDID了... 06/20 19:29
40F:推 ken80117 :基本上Serb不是客服,以他职位大可不必回答QA 06/20 21:16
41F:推 donkilu :我觉得他是为了troll才愿意回答问题的=w= 06/20 23:01
42F:推 lsslss :可能一天不嘲讽会睡不着 (? 06/21 00:47







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