作者realove (realove)
看板W-Philosophy
标题Re: [闲聊] rigid designator与definite description
时间Tue Oct 17 20:57:11 2006
其实I兄泼这段对讨论也蛮有帮助滴
你後来滴解释 我觉得看起来也都蛮合理滴
a兄质疑滴 大概是你之前滴解释吧?
※ 引述《IsaacStein (My Name)》之铭言:
: In these lectures, I will argue, intuitively, that proper names
: are rigid designators, for although the man (Nixon) might not have
: been the President, it is not the case that he might not have been
: Nixon (though he might not have been called 'Nixon'). Those who
: have argued that to make sense of the notion of rigid designator,
: we must antecedently make sense of 'criteria of transworld identity'
: have precisely reversed the cart and the horse; it is because we can
: refer (rigidly) to Nixon, and stipulate that we are speaking of what
: might have happened to him (under certain circumstances), that
: 'transworld identifications' are unproblematic in such cases.
嗯 这就是我之前了解I所说滴
Kripke预料到有人会用transworld identity去质疑proper name做为rigid designator
而做出回应
有人会质疑proper name在所有可能世界所指涉的对象 为何是同一个呢?(为何不是多呢?)
哪些properties是这个对象的essential properties 以致於它在所有可能
世界都保持同一
kripke认为这种质疑有点本末倒置..我们已经先规定好了 我们是在谈论某个
特定的对象 transworld identification才不是个问题
当然 在这里有点puzzling 为啥kripke会认为 如此transworld identification才
不是个问题...我的解读是: 如果proper name不是指涉到某个特定对象的话 那transworld
identification就会是个问题 从此条件句的前件推到後件 这是显而易见的
毕竟 若不是指涉某个特定对象的话 就可能是许多不同的对象 这时候就有了transworld
identity的问题..
以下有空再泼..
: The tendency to demand purely qualitative descriptions of couter-
: factual situations has many sources. One, perhaps, is the confusion
: of the epistemological and the metaphysical, between a prioricity
: and necessity. If someone identifies necessity with a prioricity,
: and thinks that objects are named by means of uniquely identifying
: properties, he may think that it is the properties used to identify
: the object which, being known about it a priori, must be used to
: identify it in all possible worlds, to find out which object is Nixon.
: As against this, I repeat: (1) Generally, things aren't 'found out'
: about a counterfactual situation, they are stipulated; (2) possible
: worlds need not be given purely qualitatively, as if we were looking
: at them through a telescope. And we will see shortly that the prop-
: erties an object has in every counterfactual world have nothing to do
: with properties used to identify it in the actual world.
: 以上节录自Saul A. Kripke, "Naming and Necessity" Lecture I, pp. 49-50
: 是他本人的论证,但原先的叙述不排除我个人的主观认知和诠释。
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