作者popandy (pop)
看板W-Philosophy
标题Re: 一个问题@@"
时间Thu Oct 30 21:21:52 2003
※ 引述《read ( )》之铭言:
: 下面一段英文出自於:
: Wilhelm Windelband, A history of philosophy v.1 ,page 33.
: Anaximander reproduced in the form of an abstract conception the unclear
: idea of the mythical chaos, which was "one" and yet also "all." This he
: did by assuming as the cosmic matter an infinite, corporeal mass, in which
: the various empirical substances were so mixed that no definite quality could
: be ascribed to it as a whole. For this reason, however, the separation of
: the individual qualities out of this self-moved matter could no longer be
: regarded as properly a qualitative change in it. With this view the conception
: of the unity of the world as regards quality would be given up, to be sure,
: and an essential preparation made for the later development.
: 我的问题是:
: 为什麽Anaximander如果认为「cosmic matter是一种没有definite quality
: 的一团占有空间的东西(corporeal mass)时,cosmic matter 分化成各种有特定
: quality的individual的这个变化过程就不能算做是一种qualitative change?
: 是不是因为cosmic matter本来是没有definite quality的,没有性质可变,因此
: cosmic matter并不会改变它的某些性质而变成individual,因此当cosmic matter
: 变化成individual时,不算是一种质的变化(qualitative change)?
I agree basicly with you.
Anaximander borrows the idea of being "one" and "all" simutaneously to
develope his account of the cosmic matter. He declares it to be
"an infinite, corporeal mass", which has no definite quality such that
it cannot cause the individual qualities. In my opinion, if "an infinite,
corporeal mass" could cause the individual qualities, then it would have
quality of a certain sort, which can be separated into the individual ones.
As such, a qualitatice change occurs, bringing about the definite qualities
of individuals. However, when the cosmic matter is changing into individuals,
for Anaximander,there is no qualitative change. Since "an infinite, corporeal
mass" does not possess such distinctive quality that generates numerous
qualities that is definite.
Based on the above discussion, with regard to quality, the world is diverse,for
all the definite qualities of the individual components of the world cannot be
ascribed to an indefinite cause and be united into "one". Thus, in the aspect
of quality, the conception of the unity of the world fails to explain the
definite appearence of individuals, one distinctive from another.
: 而又为什麽当cosmic matter分化为individual不能算是一种qualitative change时,
: 我们就必须放弃 the conception of the unity of the world as regard quality?
: the conception of the unity of the world as regard quality指的是什麽?是不
: 是在说:「这个世界上一切的individual虽然看来各有不同的性质,但是其本质是相同
: 的」?如Thales说的:水变化成万物,这个宇宙的众多的individual其本质都是水。
: 那,如果是这样的话,为什麽Anaximender的cosmic matter,也就是the Infinite,
: 不能是这个the unity of the world?是不是因为这个cosmic matter是没有性质的,
: 因此我们不能说宇宙众多的individual都是cosmic matter,因为individual有特定性质,
: 而cosmic matter是没有特定性质的?
: 我的问题可能很奇怪,因为我是看不懂文本确切的意思的^^"
: 请大家包涵^^"
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