作者esther81828 (狗狗)
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标题[外电] What now for the Thunder?
时间Mon Jun 25 20:05:46 2012
原文网址:
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What now for the Thunder?
It didn’t even take 24 hours and already Thunder fans were making moves.
Talking trades, talking future additions, talking new coaching possibilities.
还没超过二十四小时,雷霆队的粉丝们已经开始有所动作了。他们讨论着关於交易、关於
未来的补强、关於新的领导可能性。
The Thunder could’ve swept this thing and hung a banner in Oklahoma City and
there’d be discussion about what to do next. Fans gonna be fans. It’s part
of the fun.
雷霆队已经风靡过一阵并且在奥克拉荷马高高挂起了旗帜,现在有很多人在讨论下一步该
怎麽做。做为球迷,这是乐趣之一。
But in terms of the Thunder’s realistic offseason plans, don’t expect much.
They have three free agents — Derek Fisher, Nazr Mohammed and Royal Ivey —
and two guys eligible for extensions (James Harden and Serge Ibaka). As well
as Scott Brooks, whose contract is up.
但是说到雷霆实际上的休季计画,别想得太多。他们在这一季将会有个自由球员,老渔、
Mohammed和Ivey,而且有两个球员有资格续约(伊巴卡和哈登)。而这也包括Brooks。
Depending on decisions made with some extraneous parts, the Thunder are
essentially guaranteed to have the same team back next season.
根据某些部份来推测,雷霆很有可能在下一季保持一样的阵容。
Also, important note about this team: They were in the NBA Finals, and very
clearly good enough to win the whole thing. Fundamentally speaking, there isn
’t too much wrong with the roster when you’re in The Finals, and seven or
eight total plays away from winning it.
而且,重要的是:他们打到了冠军赛,而且本来非常有可能拿下总冠军。基本上,如果你
的球员组成能让你们打进总冠军赛,那这样的组合就没有什麽太大的问题了,而且只差了
几个play就可以获胜。
“We don’t have to make any major changes,” said Kevin Durant at Saturday’
s exit interview session. “We don’t have to get a whole new team in here.
We just have to stick to what we’ve been doing.”
「我们这一季不会有太大的变动。」雷帝在星期六离开前的访问时说道:「我们不需要新
的团队,我们只需要好好做到我们已经做到过的事情就行。」
If you’re talking major trades, or kicking around bold moves, you clearly don
’t fully comprehend the Thunder model. I realize it’s fun to do, to talk
about this guy for that, or if adding this piece would make OKC the bestest
team ever, but just understand it’s not realistic. On the docket for this
offseason is not trading James Harden and Serge Ibaka for Dwight Howard or
Kevin Love. On the docket is figuring out a way to get at least one of them
extended, with a solid financial plan to keep the other, and the rest of the
core intact.
如果你在谈论主力球员的交易或是任何大胆的举动,那显然你一点都不了解雷霆的模式。
我相信这样还满好玩的,在那边说说该走谁该来、或是如果加入谁谁谁雷霆就会变成最棒
的球队,但请了解,那是不实际的。现在最重要的事情不是交意哈登和伊巴卡去换魔兽或
是Love,而是想办法和其中一个人续约,并且在薪资结构许可的状况下留下另外一个,然
後确保核心的其他人都还在这里。
You should know by now that it’s about the process. And that involves
building a core that grows together. They’ve grown into a title contender.
One good enough to win. Obviously there’s room to improve, but I’m not sure
what trade or move puts the Thunder closer to a championship then they
already are.
你们该知道现在一切都还是过程。而这包括建立一个一起成长的核心。他们已经成长到足
以争夺总冠军的程度了,好到足以获胜。他们显然还有进步的空间,不过我不确定还有没
有任何的交易或是改变可以让雷霆比现在更接近总冠军。
The Thunder are essentially in the same position as a year ago. The best
offseason move they can make is really none at all. Let the players stew on
this feeling and come back hungrier and better next season.
基本上,雷霆现在的状况就跟去年一样。他们能做的最好的改变就是什麽也不做。就让这
些球员们维持在这种感觉之中,并且在下一季的时候以更强的状态回来。
(And don’t forget, OKC will be making one very large addition this offseason
by default as well: Eric Maynor will be healthy and return next season. Don’
t underestimate his value. He may just be a backup point guard, but he’s
maybe the best in the league at it and is a big part of making OKC’s second
unit a legit weapon. It’s no time for what-ifs, but if Maynor were healthy, I
’m pretty convinced the Thunder are hoisting a trophy. He adds that much.)
(而且别忘了,雷霆队已经会有一个非常棒的补强了:Maynor下一季将会健康地出现在球
场上。别低估他的价值。他或许只是一个替补PG,不过说不是整个联盟里最好的替补PG。
而且他会是雷霆队一个相当强而有利的武器。现在没有什麽时间一直讨论「如果如何如何
的话」,不过我想如果他健康的话,他绝对可以帮助雷霆队得到一个冠军盃。他对雷霆是
很有帮助的。)
Extending Harden is probably the first order of business and by the way he
spoke Saturday, it doesn’t seem to be a concern.
和哈登续约大概是第一要务。而且根据他星期六的发言,这应该没什麽好担心的。
“I’m just leaving it up to my agent and Sam,” Harden said. “They’ll do a
pretty good job of working it out. I’m focused on several other things right
now. But when the time is [right], they’ll figure it out and it’ll be done.
”
「我把这问题交给我的经纪人和总管。」哈登说,「他们会做好协议的。我现在专注在其
他的事情上,不过当时机正确的时候,他们就会达成共识并且完成这一切。」
He did say he loves playing in Oklahoma City about 20 times, so that’s
something. And also this: “This is something special here,” he said. “A
dynasty is being built here. So we’re winning, we’re having fun and we’re
brothers. The other stuff, you can’t buy it.”
他说了大概二十次他爱在这里打球,所以就是这麽一回事。而且他也说:「这里有很特别
的东西。这里正在逐渐建造出一个属於我们的王朝,所以我们赢球,我们在这里打得很快
乐,而且我们是兄弟。这些事情是钱买不到的。」
Is that him sort of hinting that he’s willing to take less to stay? I’m not
sure. But Harden does seem to have that kind of attitude and even he were
posed with a having to take a little less to stay with the team, it seems he’
s leaning that way. The way he’s always spoken, his unselfish attitude and
desire to win definitely has him more interested in being well paid in OKC
rather than being a max player in New Jersey.
哈登在暗示他愿意少拿一点薪水留下来吗?我不确定。不过哈登看起来是这样想的,而且
他似乎觉得就算他少拿一点留在这球队也是值得的。他一贯的说话方式、他无私的态度以
及他对胜利的渴望,让他更希望在雷霆得到好的回报而不是在篮网成为最大的球员。
My feeling? Harden gets an extension, and everything he wants. Ibaka goes
into restricted free agency. Pending Maynor’s recovery, Fisher is gone. I
think he’d love to be back, but I also think he wants to play. And with a
healthy Maynor, there’s not much need for Fisher. Mohammed will depend on
Cole Aldrich’s development. And Ivey, I kind of expect him to continue his
role a token veteran bench guy.
我的想法是,哈登可以续约,然後得到他一切想要的。伊巴卡成为限制自由球员,而在
Maynor完全复原之前,老渔已经离开了。我想他会很乐意回来,但是我同时也认为他更想
要打球。而如果拥有健康Maynor,那麽老渔就没有什麽空间发挥了。Mohammed的去留将取
决於Aldrich的发展性,而Ivey,我希望他继续做一个老将替补。
With Brooks? I’m close to convinced he’ll be back, as long as the Thunder
hit close to the ballpark on his number. He may not be the best game
management coach in the world and he has his faults, but the organization
loves stability and continuity, and making a serious change on a team that
was this close to winning an NBA title would seem to be an overreaction. Sam
Presti and the Thunder don’t tend to overreact.
至於Brooks呢?我想如果雷霆给了他中意的价码,他会留下来的。他或许不是最会判断比
赛的教练,他也有他的问题,不过假设要用这些原因踢走一个为团队带来稳定性和持续性
、并且让球队做出重大改变足以冲击总冠军的教练,好像有点反应过度了。雷霆团队和总
管并没有打算过度反应的倾向。
Brooks answered questions Saturday as if he was fully planning on returning
next season and with the fact the Thunder have already offered him an
extension, it’s more of a question of when rather than if. Because clearly
the Thunder want him back, which I think was initially a question. Now, it’s
just a matter of how badly both sides want the relationship to continue.
Brooks在星期六回答了关於下一季的计画,也证实雷霆已经拟了一份合约给他,现在不需
要讨论是否要留下他,而是何时会签约。因为雷霆当然会希望他留下来,而这是我一开始
觉得会是问题的部份。现在唯一的问题只是双方到底有多大的程度希望他们的关系继续下
去。
“I’m sure in the next couple of days we’ll sit down and get together,” is
all Brooks really said when asked about his contract situation.
「我确定再过几天我们就会坐下来好好谈谈这件事。」关於他的合约,只有这些是真正由
Brooks嘴里说出来的话。
There are limited, but important questions to be answered, but the reality
is, this team is very, very good as is. The core is built and forgetting
about extensions for Harden and Ibaka, there’s at least one more season with
this entire group as is.
还有一些很小但是很重要的问题需要答案,不过事实是,雷霆现在非常非常的好。他们建
立起了核心,而且假设不管哈登和伊巴卡的续约问题的话,他们至少还有一年可以维持现
在这完整的阵容。
Which means, not much has to change and they should have a chance to be right
back at it next season. It’s about sticking to the long-term plan, which
right now, is about making it even more long-term.
这也代表,没有太多事情需要改变,而且他们在下一季将会有机会再度冲击总冠军。这需
要长远的计画,而他们现在正在想办法让这一切维持得更久。
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这几天不在家刚好有机会看了最後一场的重播。
然後我发现不看转播只看照片实在不够啊!
有一些画面一些其实很重要的事情在报导和照片里是没有的。
在最後一节只剩下几分钟的时候,
雷帝和西河被换下来,放替补上去打完剩下的时间。
西河本来坐在板凳上一脸臭,有人拍拍他的肩膀,不过他只是一直转头往左边看,
http://i.imgur.com/ifBMR.jpg
後来他站起身往旁边走过去。
http://i.imgur.com/NwjeG.jpg
雷帝把毛巾披在脖子上,坐在板凳上盯着自己的膝盖。
西河走过去,然後抵住他的头跟他说话。
http://i.imgur.com/YE2Lh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IojJm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7kSWA.jpg
我不知道西河到底跟雷帝说了什麽,
但是我瞬间热泪盈眶XD
最後雷帝跟他说了Thanks,
我觉得这是整场比赛里我最印象深刻的画面。
每次都是雷帝在安慰大家安慰西河,
这是我第一次看见西河居然是安慰别人的那个人啊。
难得他不脑冲不幼稚,他也有看起这麽成熟的一面。
这大概是我在最後一场球赛里面看见最有价值的东西了XD
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1F:推 tanaka0826:PUSH~ 06/25 20:12
2F:推 Coolistx:颇感动 06/25 20:18
3F:推 janejane:看见这些东西热泪盈眶应该会持续到下半年开季.... 06/25 20:20
4F:推 SamPresti:Russ : 你等下想吃 3Q 还是 派克 ?! 06/25 20:43
5F:→ SamPresti:Durant : 喔~ 兄弟 你知道的 (拍头) 06/25 20:44
6F:→ esther81828:居然是炸鸡XDDDDD 06/25 20:52
7F:推 dennis91:感觉这几张照片又把KD用的甲甲的XD , 不过还是温馨+1啦!! 06/25 20:54
8F:→ esther81828:别往甲甲方向歪啊XDDDDD重点是西河难得成熟(?) 06/25 20:56
9F:推 rettttt5:Maynor真的超级重要的阿...... 06/25 21:23
10F:推 rettttt5:当胡子落赛不能控球,西河SG骨,老鱼狂被打点的时候 06/25 21:25
11F:→ rettttt5:就想到Maynor的好 06/25 21:26
12F:推 Elingen:Maynor回来老鱼还留不留啊 06/25 21:26
13F:→ esther81828:就这篇文来说倾向是可能不留老渔 06/25 21:27
14F:推 rettttt5:但问题还是没有解决,守不住LBJ就算了,至少内线要有可以 06/25 21:31
15F:→ rettttt5:强暴bosh的能力,虽然被三分球喷死是开战前始料未及... 06/25 21:31
16F:推 Ambre1110:推~ 好翻译:) 06/25 22:09
17F:推 bonzer:那个画面真的很有印象 06/25 22:11
18F:推 Elingen:只好KD今年暑假增重 拜大梦为师 06/25 22:15
19F:→ esther81828:他可以狂吃洋芋片 马上变胖 06/25 22:20
20F:→ Elingen:KD的放球手感、臂展、身高,练了低位真的会无解 06/25 22:30
21F:→ Elingen:前提是要变胖啦 06/25 22:30
22F:推 dolphin829:OKC真的很棒,自家养出来的球员还是会比较有默契! 06/25 22:35
23F:推 hi750403:正在想像如果KD变胖的样子..脸不要胖.. 06/25 23:08
24F:推 hi750403:那照片和影片很共难阿~真价A麻吉 06/25 23:11
25F:推 akiramilk:KD是可以练壮一点看看,但体重增加对膝盖不知负担会不会 06/26 08:04
26F:→ akiramilk:也增加? (不过他还很年轻啦) 06/26 08:04
27F:→ esther81828:KD说以前他身边的人其实都叫他Little Kevin 06/26 11:06
28F:→ esther81828:因为他很瘦小XD 06/26 11:07
29F:推 enpunto:e妹出来赚稿费了 XD 06/26 12:36
30F:→ enpunto:推KD增重 我也一直在想这个做法 可能所有雷迷都在想吧 06/26 12:37
31F:→ enpunto:也许增重个3-5公斤 就有喇叭般的超犯规效果了 06/26 12:38
32F:→ enpunto:长得高手又长 重一点点硬辗进去 刚想都觉得很威 06/26 12:39
33F:→ enpunto: 光 06/26 12:39
34F:→ enpunto:互爆买犯规 看谁先下场 XDDDDDDDDDDDD 06/26 12:41
35F:→ esther81828:什麽竞赛XD 如果像瓜那样的身材禁区破坏力就很强XDDDD 06/26 12:42
36F:→ enpunto:如果真有要练 最慢两年练成吧 希望一年就有效果 06/26 12:42
37F:→ enpunto:嗯 瓜的背框也很威 06/26 12:43
38F:→ esther81828:不过都过这麽久了欸他真的胖得起来吗XD 06/26 12:45
39F:推 enpunto:KD表示: 马上看给你看 06/26 12:51
40F:→ esther81828:哈哈我等着看XD 06/26 13:00
41F:推 enpunto:...又打错字了 是胖给你看 06/26 13:10
42F:推 akiramilk:瓜?melo吗? 私心觉得他太胖了XD,像GK那样精实就很好了 06/26 13:33
43F:→ akiramilk: KG 06/26 13:34
44F:→ esther81828:是的是melo XDDDDD每次看他用屁股撞人都会笑啊XDDDDDD 06/26 13:38
45F:推 enpunto:呃 KG靠的是__子 XD 06/26 13:40
46F:→ enpunto:可能是孙子......兵法吧 XD 未战而屈人之兵? XDDDDDDDDDD 06/26 13:40
47F:→ enpunto:歹势我离题了 某人的__子 跟这边无关 无法自删推文 @@ 06/26 13:42
48F:→ leemanstw:KD增重有可能速度会变慢耶 06/26 13:52
49F:推 enpunto:就增一点点 以不影响速度为目标 XD 06/26 14:05
50F:推 ohmygod0707:应该是说瓜刚出来的那阵子还没那麽胖的时候... 06/26 19:17
51F:→ esther81828:那时候是超级瘦瓜欸XDDDDD 06/26 21:04
52F:推 aas810310aas:我2k里的胡子和一八卡都不给我续约= =哭哭 06/26 21:34
53F:→ esther81828:居然!!好过份的设定XD 06/26 21:40
54F:→ leemanstw:不过KD进联盟也好几年了怎麽都没变壮阿? 06/26 23:35
55F:→ esther81828:我觉得他保持这样的身材对抗性就已经很强了,比较健康 06/26 23:41
56F:推 WongKarWai:推~~ 06/27 01:19
57F:推 WongKarWai:练壮一点比较禁得起碰撞 前提是膝盖要承受得住 06/27 01:22
58F:推 Duncan7406:其实KD有持续增重了总共9磅吧 以他骨架也不能太重XD 06/27 17:01
59F:→ enpunto:咦已经9磅了 06/27 17:09
60F:→ Duncan7406:记得他自己有讲 每年增加 一开始目标也大概设定是这样 06/27 17:12
61F:推 Ambre1110:KD居然有默默增重! 看不太出来啊XDD 06/27 20:04
62F:推 rettttt5:因为他同时也默默长高... 06/27 20:07
63F:推 akiramilk:怀疑KD应该有六尺11了XDDD 06/27 21:10
64F:→ esther81828:有,目测应该有六尺十一了XD 06/28 20:19
65F:推 Ambre1110:希望KD暑假可以练一练他的小肚腩(咦 06/29 00:37
66F:→ esther81828:A大XDDD他的肚子怎麽了吗XD 06/29 00:45
67F:推 Ambre1110:他的肚肚虽然不胖,但目测很肉感呀XDD(喂) 06/29 22:06
68F:→ esther81828:其实好像很多球员都有肚子(望向某玫瑰) 06/29 22:47
69F:推 ax227762:推图Q_Q 07/03 12:31