※ 引述《ripcord (_|_￾)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《musicghost (音痴乐迷)》之铭言： : : 方法上不民主， : : 可是并不影响正义的概念呀。 : : 他说的个人正义跟国家正义不管在哪个体制都是重要的呀。 : 正义就是正义 还有分国家正义跟社会正义 : 那还叫正义吗? : : 有呀!说的很清楚呀! : 我是说原文 不是说柏拉图没说清楚正义是什麽 : : 看来你没看懂理想国呢^^" 乱入。 理想国(the republic)的443c最後开始有讲到： 'But the truth is that although justice apparently was something of this kind, it was not concerned with the external performance of a man' own func -tion, but with the internal performance of it, with his true self and his own true function, forbidding each of the elements within him to perform task other than its own, and not allowing the classes of thing within his soul to interfere with one another.(443c) ignorance, in its turn, being the opinion which directs the unjust action.' (444a) 'injustice, on this definition, must be some sort of civil war between these three elements...(这里三元素是指desire, courage, ration) (444b) 回到前面一点的433b: that doing one's own job, and not trying to do other people's jobs for them is justice.(433b) 可以看到Plato的正义观基本上是一种各部分相互协调、各司所职的状况。 对於个人的灵魂而言是慾望、勇气、理智三部分相互调和，这样的正义是作为 人内在的品德（灵魂内部）。 而放到国家上，便是每个部分的人各司所职，农工就种田做工（代表慾望的部分） 士兵就护卫疆土（代表勇气的部分），护国者/哲学家皇帝则负责领导指挥整个国家 的运行（代表理智的部分） -- 我正指导一出白日梦 http://night17x.blogspot.com --

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