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标题[讨论] Free Agent Profile: Pablo Sandoval
时间Tue Nov 18 12:06:30 2014
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/11/free-agent-profile-pablo-sandoval.html
Pablo Sandoval has a case as the best free agent hitter this offseason, and
demand is strong. The third baseman reached free agency at age 28, putting
an exclamation point on his year with another huge postseason.
Sandoval可能是今年最好的FA打者,而且市场上需求强劲
他在28岁的年纪就成为自由球员,且在季後赛中的表现为今年划下完美句点
Strengths/Pros 优势
Sandoval is a career .294 hitter who has hit .315 or better in multiple full
seasons. Known for his incredible hand-eye coordination, he makes contact
about 87% of the time. His consistency in this area has been uncanny, as he’
s never dipped below 86.5% or risen above 86.9% in any of his six full
seasons. What’s more, Sandoval has no clear weakness, as Jeff Sullivan of
FanGraphs explained. He can hit pitches in and out of the strike zone, he
can hit all types of pitches, and he can hit with two strikes. In 2008,
Sandoval told Lee Jenkins of Sports Illustrated, “I like every pitch, no
matter where it is.”
生涯打击率.294,有复数球季打击率在.315以上
手眼协调绝佳,contact能力强,生涯六个球季的contact率都在86.5%-86.9%之间
没有明显的打击死角,无论内角外角、什麽球种他都能攻击
他曾告诉记者"任何球我都能打,无论它从哪里进垒"
Sandoval’s weighted runs created plus (wRC+) of 114 ranked ninth this year
among third basemen. This stat is park and league-adjusted, giving Sandoval
some credit for playing in a pitchers’ park.
他今年经过球场及联盟校正的WRC+有119,在全联盟的3B里排第9
Sandoval’s postseason heroics in 2012 and 2014 are legendary. He won the
World Series MVP in 2012, hitting .500 with three home runs as part of an
excellent postseason overall. This year, he raked to the tune of
.366/.423/.465 in the postseason. Just 28 years old, Sandoval has already
collected three rings with the Giants.
12年跟14年季後赛的鬼神表现让他28岁就已经拿到3枚戒指
Though he’s a big guy, Sandoval plays a solid third base. His ultimate zone
rating and defensive runs saved marks were both above average this year.
即便身型巨大,他在三垒的守备却很灵活
今年的UZR显示他的守备高於平均
We’ve mentioned that Sandoval is just 28 years old. Such youth is a rarity
for a free agent, and it’s a function of Sandoval reaching the Majors at age
21 and not signing an extension that gave up free agent years. The unique
cases of Cuban free agents aside, Sandoval is the youngest prominent free
agent hitter along with Colby Rasmus, who was born on the same day.
除了古巴叛逃球员外,在28岁就成为FA是很少见的
他跟同一天出生的Colby Rasmus并列为今年最年轻的FA打者
Weaknesses/Cons 缺点
For all his postseason success, Sandoval’s regular season was his worst with
the bat since 2010. His 6.1% walk rate was a career-worst for a full season,
and it resulted in an unspectacular .324 on-base percentage. And while
Sandoval flashed 25 home run pop early in his career, he’s averaged about 15
per 600 plate appearances over the last three seasons. He’s slugged just
.416 over the last two campaigns, 67th among qualified hitters. This year in
the regular season, Sandoval was roughly the hitter Trevor Plouffe, Daniel
Murphy, or Brett Gardner was. Those are above average hitters, but not
middle of the order cornerstones.
今年例行赛的表现是2010年以来最糟的,保送率掉到生涯最低的6.1%
也因此上垒率掉到只有.324
尽管生涯初期有单季25发HR的实力,近三季平均产量却掉到剩15支
过去两季的长打率也只有.416,在所有打者中只能排到第67
今年球季的打击表现大致上就是Trevor Plouffe, Daniel Murphy或Brett Gardner等级
他们都是高於平均的打者,但绝非中心打线的人选
Sandoval’s baserunning has always been a detriment, bringing his overall
value down. He has totaled 7.9 wins above replacement over the last three
seasons, 81st in baseball among position players. He’s in a virtual tie
with guys like Jon Jay and Jed Lowrie, who might be described as useful but
are certainly not considered stars or among the best as their respective
positions. By measure of WAR, Sandoval ranked 14th among third basemen this
year, seven spots below fellow free agent third baseman Chase Headley.
一直以来跑垒都是他的弱点,也因此减低了他的整体价值
过去三季累积的WAR只有7.9,在全联盟打者中只能排到第81
差不多就是Jon Jay或Jed Lowrie等级的球员
而这类球员通常被形容为"有用的"而非各自位置上的"明星球员"
以WAR来说,Sandoval今年在所有三垒手中只能排到第14
比同样在今年成为FA的Chase Headley还低了7名
Sandoval is listed at 5-foot-11 and 245 pounds, making him one of the game’s
heaviest regular position players. He’s been at least 30 pounds heavier
than that at different points. Using pounds per inch, Daniel Meyer of Beyond
the Box Score noted, “Deep into the history of the past 143 years of
recorded baseball history no player of Sandoval’s proportions has played
more than a season’s worth of games at third base,” making Sandoval a
trailblazer in what he’s done already. His weight raises questions about
how well he’ll age, his future durability, and when he might have to move
off the hot corner. Talk about Sandoval’s weight and conditioning have
followed him throughout his career, as chronicled by Jorge L. Ortiz of USA
Today in February this year.
5尺11寸245磅的身材,让他成为最肥的打者之一
在过去更曾经数次比现在还重上30磅
Daniel Meyer指出,过去143年来,没有像Sandoval这麽肥的球员能守3垒超过一季
这也让他成为历史上一个独特的案例
他的体重也让人怀疑他的衰退会不会比一般球员来的更快
他未来的耐战性、能不能继续当3垒手都是问号
Since he received and turned down a one-year, $15.3MM qualifying offer from
the Giants, signing Sandoval will require draft pick forfeiture.
由於他拒绝了巨人提出的QO,所以签下他需要赔上第一轮(红袜只要赔第二轮)
Personal 个人特质
Sandoval was born in Puerto Cabello, Venezuela. He was born left-handed but
learned to throw with his right hand at the age of nine so he could play
catcher. Switch-hitting followed his switch-throwing a few years later.
The Giants signed him in 2003 at age 16, as a catch-and-throw specialist
behind the plate.
原本是左撇子,为了当捕手所以在九岁时练习用右手丢球
2003年他16岁时被巨人队签下,原本只是陪练的捕手
Sandoval is an exuberant player who usually has a smile on his face and is
beloved by fans. He is nicknamed Kung Fu Panda, a name bestowed on him by
teammate Barry Zito in 2008 when Sandoval scored a run by jumping over the
catcher’s tag. The nickname took off, with thousands of Giants fans making
Panda gear ubiquitous.
活力充沛,脸上总是挂着笑容
外号功夫熊猫的由来是有一次本垒攻防时他曾经跳过捕手的tag
Sandoval has two daughters and resides in Venezuela in the offseason.
Market 市场状况
So far in free agency, Sandoval has been pursued heavily by the Giants and is
in Boston today for a meeting with the Red Sox. The Padres, Blue Jays, and
White Sox have also been connected, and agent Gustavo Vasquez met with most
or all of the teams at last week’s GM Meetings. Just to expand the field as
far as possible, teams such as the Yankees, Tigers, Astros, Angels, and
Marlins don’t have third base entirely locked down even if they haven’t
been linked to Sandoval recently. Sandoval has been a member of the Giants
for his entire career, and after past championships the Giants retained their
players. Prior to the season, the Giants reportedly tried to start the
conversation with a three-year, $40MM offer with Sandoval seeking five years
and $100MM+.
除了巨人跟红袜之外,教士、蓝鸟跟白袜也曾表现过兴趣
其他像是洋基、老虎、太空人、天使跟马林鱼等球队也需要三垒的补强
过去巨人总是不吝於撒钱留下冠军队的重要成员,
不过这次Sandoval要求的五年100M跟巨人想给的三年40M显然相距甚远
With Aramis Ramirez having re-signed with the Brewers, Sandoval’s third base
competition consists of Headley and perhaps Hanley Ramirez. Headley holds
the advantage of not being eligible for a qualifying offer. Plus, his
defense-oriented profile won’t cost nearly as much. The trade market at
third base is light, with perhaps Luis Valbuena, David Freese, Casey McGehee,
Pedro Alvarez, and Plouffe in the mix.
市场上的先发三垒手剩下他跟Headley,或许还有Hanley
Headley的优势在於没有绑QO,以及守备价值在市场上通常会被低估
其他可以经由交易取得的3B还有Valbuena, Freese, McGehee, Alvarez, Plouffe等人
Expected Contract 预期合约
Perhaps because of the postseason, his age, or the promise Sandoval showed in
years like 2009, this is a player who is valued by the market well beyond his
regular season statistics.
考量他季後赛的表现跟年龄,他在市场上能拿到的会比他季赛成绩所显示的更多
Vasquez has come right out and said his client is focused on the length of
his deal and that six years would be reasonable given his age (Henry Schulman
of the San Francisco Chronicle reporting). Most agents don’t speak about
that publicly, and most also seek one year more than they might privately
expect the player to receive. I think in this case, Vasquez really does
expect six years, and Sandoval will receive such an offer in the end. It is
difficult to picture seven years unless that seventh year comes very cheaply.
经纪人表示他希望拿到至少六年的长约,通常情况下跟实际成交的长度会有一年的空间
不过我个人认为他应该可以拿到一份六年的合约,
除非平均年薪很低,不然七年约不大可能
Expectations seem to be for an average annual value of $18-20MM for Sandoval.
I’m going with a six-year, $114MM deal.
我预测他的年薪大概在18-20M之间,最後签下一份六年114M的长约
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Sandoval是市场上唯一一个"或许"可以同时解决我们缺左打、三垒跟power问题的人
不过11年之後连年衰退,不选球好像跟红袜的打击哲学也不大合,
另外有Fielder的前例也让人担心他到底还能守多久的三垒
以现在看起来至少要出到五年90M左右的情况,大家觉得FO会签他吗?
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1F:推 JButton: 我觉得会签,但我不希望看到 11/18 12:35
2F:推 yypan99: 希望签後、熊猫可以表现跟卖肉崔哥一样 11/18 12:49
3F:推 HONYLO: 不选球真的不适合我们 11/18 12:54
4F:推 jasongo: 希望去抢Moncada,XB站3B,我觉得这逻辑比较实在 11/18 13:04
5F:推 HONYLO: 我也希望红袜能去抢Moncada... 11/18 13:06
6F:推 jameshu0910: 先给Cecchini&Holt挡两年(算上右打的中川platoon) 11/18 13:17
7F:→ jameshu0910: 全力抢Moncada,虽然要罚100% 11/18 13:18
8F:推 KAIS: 不选球的胖枪,不能守三垒时这种约就会变很刺眼 11/18 14:14
9F:推 GardenLost: 一样的约应该能抢古巴人吧 实在不想签他 11/18 14:40
10F:→ Alan1597: 6年就免了吧3-5年可能可以犹豫一下 11/18 14:51
11F:推 KayRain: 希望能签到 11/18 15:00
12F:推 th11yh23: 推 11/18 15:02
13F:推 JButton: 好奇问一下,有没有人认为XB守3B,Betts守SS是可行的? 11/18 16:03
14F:推 maxspeed150: Betts的arm不够 11/18 16:42
15F:推 yypan99: 肥袜SS自从Nor都找不到解答、莫非这几年连3B也找不到解 11/18 18:13
16F:→ yypan99: 答 11/18 18:13
17F:推 Roshiel: 上一个肥袜的3B是谁?光头?卖肉? 11/18 19:24
18F:推 skywalker219: 10年的Adri嫕 Beltr 再之前就算Lowell 11/18 19:53
19F:推 skywalker219: 10年Adrian Beltre打很棒 11/18 19:57
20F:推 taker627: 最强应该是吹哥吧 11/18 19:57
21F:→ skywalker219: 那之後就是光头吧 可是打击就走下坡了 11/18 19:58
22F:推 coldplay0211: 吹哥来那年表现很优 11/18 20:02
23F:推 CraigHansen: Mueller 卖肉 吹哥 Youk 其实三垒还不错 11/18 22:05
24F:推 spko: 8BV造孽把Youk交易掉扶正中川後,三垒就成了诅咒了.... 11/18 22:27
25F:推 jasongo: 如果是贵松松的熊猫就别来了吧 11/18 22:40
26F:推 nati: 只能怪中川扶不起来 3B变一个大洞 打击几乎是全联盟最弱的 11/18 22:57
27F:→ nati: 急就章只能对熊猫产生兴趣 但他若power一直降就会很惨 11/18 22:58
28F:→ nati: 若非得要签他 希望总值别超过100M 然後5+1就好... 11/18 22:58
29F:推 myde: 红袜阵容目前洞真的太多了,个人还是偏向先把SP补起来才好 11/18 23:13
30F:推 jameshu0910: 全联盟顶尖的3B没很多,我觉得是因为整体打线输出太烂 11/18 23:30
31F:→ jameshu0910: 所以才把3B的问题放大了 11/18 23:30
32F:推 fanecerce: 6年太长了 应该会变烂约..... 11/19 00:10