作者ivanos (A good year)
看板Physics
标题Re: [问题] 学会量力是一种天份吗XD
时间Sun Jan 13 12:51:24 2008
※ 引述《waaipiko (终於结束了)》之铭言:
: 标题: [问题] 学会量力是一种天份吗XD
: 时间: Wed Dec 19 13:31:00 2007
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: 请问有没有不错的中文科普书在讲量力的?
: 有看过爱莉丝梦游量子奇境 但不是很懂
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: 在下本身是材料系的
: 修的量力是物理化学课
: 修到现在总觉得一知半解...
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: 还是说现在不懂 但总有一天会省悟XD 这是老师说的...
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: 这是一篇歇斯底里的抱怨文?!
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: 推 jjsakurai:Feynman曾说过,没有人真的懂量力,说自己懂的人,大概
: → jjsakurai:是真的不懂....後面是我说的
"You ask me if an ordinary person could ever get to be able to imagine
these things like I imagine them. Of course! I was an ordinary person
who studied hard. There are no miracle people. It just happens they get
interested in this thing and they learn all this stuff, but they're just
people. There is no talent, no special ability to understand quantum
mechanics, or to imagine electromagnetics fields, that comes without
practice and reading and learning and study. I was not born understanding
quantum mechanics- I still don't understand quantum mechanics! I was born
not knowing things were made out of atoms, and not being able to visualize,
therefore, whhen I saw the bottle of milk that I was sucking, that it was
a dynamic bunch of balls bouncing around. I had to learn that just like
anybody else. So if you take an ordinary person who is willing to devote
a great deal of time and work and thinking and mathematics, then he's
become a scientist!"
- Richard P. Feynman, 1965 Nobel Laureate in Physics
Hans Bethe, 1967 Nobel Laureate in Physics, called by Freeman Dyson as
"supreme problem solver of the 20th century", once mentioned the extremely
difficult problem of infinity faced by quantum electrodynamics then and
solved by Feynman:
"One thing I can tell you is that I tried, and failed. Many other people, at
least two dozen people, tried and didn't get it. In the very early years,
Heisenberg and Pauli - Perhaps the two brightest theoretical physicists of
their generation, of the early 1900s - they tried, and they couldn't make it
finite. So it was the extremely difficult problem on which some of the best
people worked, and nont of them could do it."
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1F:推 waytin:照他的说法,肯花时间和功夫你就能懂! 01/13 14:44
2F:→ waytin:不过我觉得天赋还是有差,会影响到学习的快慢 01/13 14:45
3F:推 HLiNaKRbCsFr:或许学生需要的是会教的老师吧 01/13 15:01
4F:推 mantour:「不需要天赋」这句话从Feynman嘴里出来真没说服力 01/13 15:25
5F:推 motoman:我觉得量物用心学还是可以抓住架构 不过我还有很多不懂XD 01/13 19:35
6F:推 Stuber:还记得克林看见悟空变身超塞亚人时说: 这已经不是地球人可 01/13 21:45
7F:→ Stuber:以参加的战斗了。 01/13 21:46
8F:推 theory:学到越深的地方,天赋越决定一切 01/13 22:57
9F:推 sputtering:既然有强烈的好奇心 就不顾一切的嗑下去吧 01/15 10:40
10F:推 Linderman:既然有强烈的好奇心,就不顾一切先把英文从KK音标开始学 01/15 10:54
11F:→ HLiNaKRbCsFr:某人好像很喜欢钉某人 <冏" 01/15 15:37
12F:推 sputtering:费曼首先不把天赋当天赋 认为只是每个人都在努力着 01/15 17:01
13F:→ sputtering:我认为费曼的这种谦虚对於科学界或努力从事学术研究者 01/15 17:06
14F:→ sputtering:都是一种正面的鼓舞作用 01/15 17:08
15F:推 chungweitw:我觉得 Feynman 说这样的话 不会没有说服力. 01/16 00:03