※ 引述《lindo (Lindo)》之铭言： : 各位同学研安： : 台大研究生之助学金一直为研究生的长期困扰， : 研究生之研究时间、研究品质甚至与指导教授间之不愉快， : 最大之问题主因即来自研究生『助学金』的问题，故本问题不得不解决。 : 研究生为国家学术的命脉，亦是未来学界的栋梁，在迈向国际化的台湾， : 国内教育界最顶端的学子，教育当局应该多为他们着想。 : 据统计，研究生年龄至少在22岁（72年次）以上，经济上大多不靠家里的支持， : 为生活所需必须靠助学金与工读过生活， : 教育部以往都有补助研究生固定足够之助学金给研究生， : 但由於大学设立的普及化造成资源分散， : 再加上研究生人数成倍数成长，形成许多研究生的助学金有领不到的情况。 : 以台大为例，研究生在短短不到10年间总人数增加了2.05倍， : 而助学金总金额不但没增加反而减少8％， : 再加上物价上涨等因素研究生生活的确受到极大的冲击。 : 助学金问题可归纳如下：1.助学金太少、2.同校各系所助学金分配不一。 : 根据台大研究生协会统计，60.2％的研究生其每个月助学金都在三千元以下， : 74.7％的研究生认为助学金不敷使用。 : 以电脑工程领域为例，中国北京大学「世界排名301」（中国科学院计算所） : 高於台大「世界排名153」电子所13.3倍； : 英国伦敦Queen Mary College「世界排名203」（Engineering）高9.2倍； : 加拿大Alberta「世界排名101」（Computer Engineering）高11.1倍； : 美国纽泽西NJIT「世界排名401」（Computer Science）高12倍， : 由此可知台湾研究生助学金与其他国际研究生待遇相差甚远。 This is not true. In most of the countries, they don't give free money to taught-course master students nor master students who are not doing research, since they don't contribute anything by attending courses. Master students doing research or PhD students could get payment from their research projects, however, not from the government freely. In Taiwan, master students still get some free money, which is not too bad. If they do research for some projects, they will still get payments from them. How can they complain any more?! : 因生活费不足迫使研究生沦落为教授之廉价劳工，公（论文指导）、 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I cannot see any strong relationship between these two statements. In military, somebody might be able to force you to do something, however, it is not a case between supervisors and postgraduates. Nobody can force you to do anything in a university. You can even refuse the order or supervision from your supervisors, if you are confident enough. It is you pay for your study, not the government pays you for your degree, although some projects might pay you for doing their research. : 私（研究案）不能分明，学术品质自然降低，而到外面打工自然也剥削到研究时间。 : 而助学金分配不均，以台大为例，目前是各系所自行决议分配研究生助学金的多寡， : 有些系所人数较多而形成僧多粥少的现象， : 甚至有研究生一个月只分到一千多元的助学金， : 对於研究生的生活产生极大的压力，更遑论谈学术品质。 : 研究生在各研究单位中所受到指导教授不公平的待遇， : 譬如帮教授作私事或当廉价劳工等更是时有耳闻， This sort of thing should not happen between the supervisor and the students. This should be banned; unfortunately, Taiwanese universities have never done good management. Somebody got to be responsible for that situation. However, you cannot go to ask more free money just because of that situation exists. Instead, you should appeal to the government to investigate the universities for stopping that situation. On the other hand, even the students get more free money, do you believe that situation will then disappear? The real reason is not the money; the real reason is the supervisors hold the students' degrees and some of them abuse their students. This is a university management and justice problem, but rather a financial issue. : 但大多数学生为了学位多是敢怒而不敢言，如此恶性循环， : 台湾的学术品质如何能提升呢？ : 『要马儿好，更要让马儿吃草』为解决根本之道，唯有彻底解决研究生助学金问题， : 才能提升台湾的学术品质，虽然钱非万能，但没钱万万不能。 : 最起码要能解决研究生之学费与生活问题，若教育当局在执行面产生问题， : 是否请思考『没这麽多奶水，就该考虑别生太多小孩』。 Postgraduates' tuition fee and living cost is problems of themselves. There is no points that the taxpayers should be responsible for the postgraduates' studies (and the cost of their degrees.) Also, nobody can really force you to attend master courses. I did my master degree and lost chances of two years salary and experience from industries. However I was quite happy for that because I knew I was going to get more payment after I got my master degree. Those lost were actually parts of the cost or a kind of investment. You cannot get something from nothing. If you think doing a master is not good, just don't get that then. If you think you should do master degree and unfortunately you have financial problem, you should support yourself by applying student loan from the banks, rather than asking more free money like a baby. Be responsible for yourself! Postgraduates. : 台湾竞争力的源头在大学的研究发展，而大学研究发展的第一线部队在研究生， : 如果我们研究生的待遇不能「接近」国际一流大学的水准，那麽， I bet you don't know how they treat the postgraduates in the first-class universities in the rest of the world. : 我们如何要求研究生在经济压力下，达到国际一流的产能？ If you go to EU, you will see a lot of PhD students from the Third World who were sponsored by their own governments. Most of them are much much poorer than general Taiwanese postgraduates. They have to live in that expensive countries in very simple styles. They and their wives might have to do part-time (or full-time, secretly) work to maintain their living cost (becauses their government could sponsor their tuition fees only.) However, most of them do do really good research and quite productive. The reasons which you argued are not valid in their cases. Why? Because they got good solid support (supervision, equipment, technicians but not the money) on research from their schools. Because their schools are well managed and monitored, and not allow their supervisors to ask them to do any private jobs (even well-paid). It is not because they are highly paid by their universities (although some might get some scholarship from the schools). : 12月26日至29日於台大校园、教育部与立法院会有连署说明会请同学踊跃前往支持。 : 国立台湾大学研究生协会会长 张源修 敬上 --

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