从大概一年前 Oasis纪录片Supersonic就被我列在2016 must-do-list上 到今天终於看了 (在Amazon上买来看的) 心里真是各种情绪激昂 看完後好想有一台时光机让我回到90年代回去看那时候的Oasis啊!!!! 然後看到两兄弟以前虽然也是各种吵架但也有不少充满brotherly love的画面 有点淡淡的感伤 呜呜呜回不去了QQQQ ----------------------------以下有雷 & 文极长----------------------------- "So, what d'you think, looking back at that time, 'cause it's like 2 and a half year really, from being signed to playing Knebworth, what happened to that band what happened to you in those 3 years? Sorry, that was a big question." "It is a big question, and it deserves a big answer." 电影以1996年的Knebworth gig开场 各种采访旁白和一堆live footage穿插着叙述当时的情况 一开始Liam和Noel的旁白就完全抓住我的心了 "Oasis was definitely like a f***ing Ferrari, great to look at, great to drive and it would f***ing spin out of control every now and again when you go too fast." "We were just lads from a council estate. Two brothers, head cases.Oasis's greatest strength was the relationship between me and Liam, it's also what drove the band into the ground in the end, if you know what i mean." 尤其是当Noel说"it's also what drive the band into the ground in the end"的时候 我内心小剧场又是一阵感伤怀念阿阿阿 (还有每次播出演唱会片段都会忍不住跟着哼唱XD) 接着就回到Oasis最初期 讲他们从一开始一直到1996年那场演上会之间的故事 (还有一段Liam把他跟Noel比喻成该隐和亚伯 个人超喜欢那段XD) 然後还有不少两兄弟小时候&青少年时期的照片 觉得超可爱的啊!!! 听Liam和Noel的妈妈Peggie和大哥Paul描述那时候的他们也超有趣 像是Liam从primary school的时候就是个show-off -- 听到这段快笑死XDD 接下来就是Bonehead, Tony, Guigs登场 组了Rain 到改名 然後就从Liam房间里的海报上的Swindon Oasis得到了灵感 Noel打电话回家时 Peggie跟他说Liam组了个乐团 "How's Liam?" "Oh he's out rehearsing." "What for? He's not joined the Shakespeare f***ing group has he?" "Oh no, no he's in a band." 还有Noel後来confront Liam "You're singing?! After all the times I've sat in our bedroom wih an accoustic guitar and you used to tell me shut up, now you've decided you want to become a f***ing singer?" 这两段莫名的戳中我的笑点 还有Noel讲这段话时同时戳Liam肚子的肢体互动简直让我超想尖叫的 欸欸欸你们两个什麽时候要和好啦QQQ 後来Noel就加入了 超爱他们从一开始就超狂妄的风格啊 说Phil Collins 是junk food music (McDonalds's music) 还有"I want a severed head of Phil Collins in my fridge by the end of this decade and if I haven't I'll be a failure" 还有Noel一开始写出Liver Forever的时候 就知道这会是首经典的歌 (可恶我超喜欢这样的他啊!!!) "I knew enough about music to know this is going to be a great song." (一开始Bonehead听到这首也是超震惊 一个天啊这你写的?!的那种感觉XD) 但尽管这样那时候他们还不有名 根本没人在讨论他们 不过因为跟一个女团Sister Lovers共用rehearsal room 然後其中一个团员Debbie Turner刚好是Alan McGee的前女友 Oasis一群人在某次跟着被一个Glasgow的pub邀去表演Sister Lovers去到club 说也想要上台 然後在Debbie很有义气的说"If they're not playing then we're not playing"後 又刚好被unexpectedly showed up的Alan McGee听到了他们的表演 然後接下来就起飞(?)了XD 然後穿插妈妈登场的片段 其实我之前没那麽认识Peggie但看完这部也是很爱她 而且看到两兄弟谈论她有些时候都觉得有点感人 Liam的旁白:"Mum was an angel, still is. Not impressed by all this rock n roll business, and rightly so." Noel:"You know, when I think of those times ...she kind of brought us up on her own, really. And three lads,particularly one of them being Liam,it was very tricky. I mean, she gave it all up for us,you know what I mean? I wanted to make her proud.I wanted to get her to stop from doing, like, three f***ing jobs and put her feet up, you know what I mean, and have nice things." 我超喜欢每次Noel提到觉得妈妈很伟大都要提一下因为"She raised Liam" 超级好笑XDD 记得之前有个访问Noel讲到他的hero时就说 "My mum, because she brought Liam Gallagher up. I mean, f**k me." 然後有一小段妈妈的flashback 关於她1963年刚到Manchester时候的故事 还有一堆兄弟们小时候的照片 超!!!可!!!爱!!! 还有说什麽她觉得Liam和Noel小时候就有一些jealousy between them XDD 不过她很高兴他们两个在同个乐团里 "I would not have wanted Liam in a band without Noel." 对照後来的事情发展我内心突然又各种感慨万分 然後就是轰动的Supersonic和TV debut (Noel他讲到写这首歌的时间 "I went in the back room and, as bizarre as it sounds, wrote Supersonic in about however long it takes six other guys to eat a Chinese meal." XDDD) 个人超喜欢这首的然後重听他们以前演唱会上的片段根本超嗨XD 然後也开始有各种他们的新闻和采访(基本上就一如往常的狂傲和超有性格XD) 还有去Amsterdam的ferry上後来还被遣返的那件事 Noel说他喜欢McGee的其中一个原因就是他打电话告诉他 "Everyone's been arrested"後McGee只说了句"brilliant" 还有Liam和Noel吵这件事的经典片段也是 超好笑 N:"The thing about getting thrown off ferries ... getting deported .. is not something I'm proud about" L:"Well I am" N:"If you're proud about getting thrown off ferries why don't you go and support Westham and get the f**k out of my band ... these lot think it's rock n roll to get thrown off a ferry -" L: "shut up" 快笑死XDDD 然後记者采访时问"You've been portrayed as young hooligans, do you think that image is fair?" Liam问Noel 这问题是给我的吗 Noel超级肯定的说"this is your question" XDDD 然後有谈到一点两兄弟着名love-hate relationship 讲说他们什麽都能吵 Liam还说了有时候甚至不用开口 "All we got to do is look at each other in a certain kind of way and we row without even opening our mouth. We're just going 'Grrr' inside our heads." 然後Noel说他讨厌silbing rivalry这个词但他承认这本质上就是XD Noel也说他自己就像是猫 Liam像是狗 猫是很独立然後不太在乎其他人的 "They don't give a f**k, right bastards." 然後狗则比较需要陪伴 "Dogs are just 'Play with me, play with me. Please throw that ball for me.' Because they f***ing need some company." 还有他们之间的power struggle "It's about me being in charge and everybody directing everything towards me and Liam being pissed off about it." Ignition Management的Christine Biller则说 "The two brothers, grew up together, one's one way, one's the other. Noel has a lot of buttons. Liam has a lot of fingers." 还有Paolo Hewitt表示:"Democracy never works in a band.It's been proven a million times. And the trouble you had with Oasis is you had two people vying for the Prime Minister job. That tension, that antagonism, it drove that band, and it killed that band, is what it did." 接下来有一段Noel和Liam跪趴在旅馆地上比腕力 (这画面真的很微妙XDDD) (Noel赢了) 觉得这样的两个人意外的可爱啊!!! 比完腕力後Liam讲了一段好像很有哲理但我不太确定他是不是想表达什麽的话(?) "It's all about what's inside the f***ing tin of beans that counts, not what the f***ing wrapper is,or how much it costs, or who you buy it off, or what till you get it from." Noel则对着镜头说"If this ever goes on, like, a video, for the kids, I would apologise, but I'm not going to! 'Cause he's a prick!" (Liam高举手欢呼) 天啊 这两个人怎麽可以这麽好笑XDDDDDD 後来他们去日本然後对於粉丝知道他们感到震惊XDD Bonehead表示:"We arrived in Japan and there were like, 1000 girls at the airport. People waiting for us and shouting my name. 'Liam, Liam! Noel! Guigs! Tony!'It was just, like, 'F**k off, this is Japan? But they know me name?'" 然後Noel说日本粉丝超热情到哪里都跟着他们 "it's like a mania, it's like what we always read about." Liam则说:"I absolutely loved Japan. It was f***ing mayhem. Guigs wasn't too keen on it, he was like, 'Oh, I don't know what they're fussing about.' And I'm like, 'Me, you f***ing lunatic! That's what they're fussing about!'" 天啊我真的超爱Liam的啦 尤其是他的"Me, that's what they're fussing about" 真的是十足的Liam风格XDDD 接下来有个GQ杂志的女记者说她在他们到日本第一天晚上的故事 Liam很认真的问她 她相不相信上帝 然後说自己不相信 "because if there was a God, all that wouldn't have happened." 再来是Liam自己的flash back回想那时候的自己 然後讲了一些关於他们家庭的故事 尤其是他爸 虽然以前就大概知道 但听他们谈起这几段还是有点难过 L:"I was definitely angry with life and that ... sh*t with my dad and just life in general. I was an angry young man, so singing them songs sort of released all my sh*t onto other people, but in a good way, you know what I mean?" "My dad, he used to knock my mum about. There were many times when, like, it got like that. He never touched me, I don't know why he didn't. You know, sometimes he'd f***ing, he'd want the crack instead of having to witness it." Peggie:"He used to kill Noel. Noel was the one that got it the most. I remember Noel once saying, 'If you don't get out of here, Mum, and leave him,' he says, 'I'm going to kill him.' And I thought, 'Oh, Jesus. You can't be doing time for the likes of him.'" N:"Yeah, my dad used to beat the living daylights out of me. I've never felt compelled to either talk about it or write about it. I know that I think it's no one else's business. You can't let that kind of thing affect you in any way because then you're carrying that weight all the way through life." "You can't let that kind of thing affect you in any way because then you're carrying that weight all the way through life." -- 好喜欢Noel讲的这句 然後回到Peggie说她决定离开了他 她留了一只叉子一只刀子和一支汤匙给他 然後想说自己是不是留太多了XD 接着Noel讲到 (虽然看这几段有点沉重 但也同时有种 Noel是个能写出很猛歌词的人 这件事实在不怎麽让人意外 的那种感觉) "I wouldn't say I was scarred, but everybody's childhood makes them what they are. You can't think about it too deeply because it would f***ing drive you mad. I think it benefitted me in the way that it made me withdraw into my own world and from that came the learning to play the guitar. I guess, in some way, my old fella beat the talent into me." 天啊我真的很爱Noel QQQ 接下来是第一次到了美国 跟日本的粉丝相比 美国没什麽人知道他们 不过Noel说他不介意 反而觉得是个fresh start Liam跟美国海关的对话则是超级爆笑的 海关:"Right, who've we got here then?" Maggie (他们的tour manager): "He's a singer." 海:"What's the purpose of your visit?" Liam:"Not a f***ing visit.I'm not visiting, mate, I'm a f***ing rock star. I'm here to steal your soul." 海:"Okay, you can follow me now, sir." 笑翻了XDDD Liam真的好经典XDD 然後讲到大家都吸了某种叫Meth的毒品 不知道是谁找到的 (虽然他们一开始都以为是古柯硷) 吸了之後精神变得恍惚 然後有次在LA的某个pub演出状况就很糟 而且那场演出 工作团队上负责setlist的人出包把给Noel的歌单弄得跟别人的不太一样 後来就变得同时台上在表演不同首歌 情况变得很乱 Liam和Noel就吵了起来 然後Liam把他的铃鼓丢向Noel Noel就暴怒 Noel:"I was in a fury. I left a little bit of me on that stage that night. After that night, it was more 'me and them' as opposed to 'us'." 然後Noel就去找了tour manager Maggie, 要了一些钱和护照说要回家就真的离开了 整个团队一阵紧张 Liam:"He takes the money and runs. I remember some f***ing soppy note coming through the door, saying, like,'How can we go on like brothers?' It was like, 'F**k right off!' So that got rolled up and then another line of crystal meth went up the old f***ing tubular bells." Bonehead: "There's our songwriter gone. Sh*t! I think it's really over, innit?" 後来Maggie根据他的电话帐单等资讯猜到他在旧金山 "And then I noticed there was one number 415, and I thought, ah, San Francisco. We've just been to San Francisco and I knew that he had some little fling over there." 再来就是Noel讲他的故事 他在某场演唱会上遇到这个女的 然後那天就打电会给他 那时他只想逃离那里 於是就做了飞机到了旧金山 那段时间他也过得不太好 但在那样的状态下倒是创作了Talk Tonight (我超爱这首啊!!) "I don't know what the f**k I thought I was doing. I was just going to, like, disappear, you know. It was quite a traumatic time. But Talk Tonight was written about those few days and out of that came that great song. So it was meant to be." 接下来听Noel演唱Talk Tonight超级有感觉啊 声音又超棒的QQQ 总之历经波折後乐团又团聚了 Noel:"I just needed a bit of time out, I guess. I may have been trying to teach somebody a lesson and failed miserably." 不知道为什麽听到这段话嘴角不争气的上扬了XDD Mark Coyle表示这首歌显现了Noel平常不会让人看到的delicate side "He doesn't show these emotions ... apart from when you stick him behind the glass with a microphone, and then he can let this emotion loose that he's got and suddenly you can see /Noel/. You kind of see, almost, a little boy or summat, you know. Something very, very innocent and very pure. They're my favourite moments. It's like a door opens and a bit of light comes in, and then the door's shut again, you know, and he's calling you a twat." 很爱很爱这段啊 头子感性的一面<3 然後是Some Might Say还有Tony离团 Noel说从录Definitely Maybe的时候他们就花很多时间在乔鼓但总是乔不好 後来的歌也有很多问题 他就去跟Owen说:"That's the f***ing last time he's ever in the f***ing studio" 接着又讲了一堆抱怨的话 随着American Tour整件事恶化 虽然Bonehead有试着帮忙协调 叫Liam和Noel 'go easy on the guy' 接下来有段....充满象徵意义的画面配上团员们讲述这件事的旁白 Tony:"I was quite a reserved guy. I think people might have looked at that as some kind of weakness, but no, I didn't want to be the leader. I'll sit back here and do me drums." 然後Noel就比喻这有点像"a pack of feral dogs exclude one puppy" Liam:"Our Kid, I just think, made his mind up, you know what I mean, and just didn't fancy him. 'He's not going to be able to do these next songs.' Or 'I don't want him to do it,' you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I'm gutted for him, but it is what it is, man." 後来Noel和Tony有场争执 双方都讲了一些有点激烈的话 最後Noel让Owen去跟Tony说想要他离开 然後找了Alan White进来 Tony: "I was shell-shocked. Still, to this day, it's with me. I think about it every day, believe it or not." 接下来有段讲他们在录音室的录第二章专辑的故事 Owen讲到Noel和Liam:"And they had this freaky thing where Noel would play the song once on an acoustic guitar in the control room to Liam, give him the words and he'd f***ing sing it. Noel would listen to it once to check Liam's got the phrasing for the entire song that he's only just heard the once. Noel would go, 'Nice one, Liam.'" 超喜欢这样的小故事 关於两兄弟这样的合作无间XDD 还有他们也常常同时在看足球 後来还有段一群人玩灭火器玩的很嗨的片段XDD 觉得蛮幼稚但是也挺可爱的XD 结果後来有次Liam从pub带了一些人回来 玩得有点疯 刚好Noel又还在工作 然後不知道是谁又玩起了灭火器 (他们怎麽那麽爱玩灭火器..) Noel的吉他有点被弄坏 很不爽 两兄弟就吵架 比以前吵的都更凶 Noel还用板球球棒击Liam的头 跳出窗外开车走 Liam突然出现拿个垃圾桶丢向车子 Alan White:"It can't be over, I've only just joined." L&N: "No, no, no, no. This is going to happen all the time." Alan: "F***ing hell, mate. What kind of f***ing band is this?" 看到这段觉得超好笑 他们两个真的太有个性了XD 然後Noel就说 每次他们吵(打)架完 之後又会像什麽都没发生一样 一切都很正常 "We had a tour booked and we were rehearsing in Brixton Academy. It was all fine. Me and Guigs got a taxi home." 但接着突然话锋一转"The next day, Guigs just doesn't show up." 後来从Marcus那边听说Guigs想要离开 Bonehead:"What's happened to Guigs is he's had a bit of a f***ing breakdown. That's when you kick yourself, you know. When you're that blinkered that you couldn't stop and notice that your mate wasn't feeling right." Noel:"Any kind of chaos going on around, he would have shot down, do you know what I mean? Bass players are like that." Liam:"Guigs is a gentle soul ... He wasn't like me and Noel, or like Bonehead. You know, we were f***ing pretty mental." 结果後来暂时找来代替Guigs的standin bass player Scott又说要离开 (因为他想念他女友XD) Noel就说 怎麽我们的贝斯手不想跟我们一起演出 代替他的也不想 "we must be like, the biggest three c*nts in the world." 还好後来回到英国後 Guigs又重返Oasis和他们一起演出了 再来有段超级充满brotherly love的一段 超级超级喜欢这样的他们的啊!!! Noel:"Liam was always cooler than me, I think. He had a better walk and clothes looked better on him and he was taller, and he had a better haircut. And he was funnier. Liam clearly would have liked to have had my talent as a songwriter. And there's not a day goes by when I don't wish I could rock a parka like that man." Liam: "I know Noel thinks I'm doing okay. We didn't need to pat each other on the back and go, 'Oh, you're great.' Me and him are like telepathic, you know what I mean?" 然後还有Liam超级随性的把啤酒放下然後突然亲Noel 就觉得虽然以前也是吵但他们感情还是很好啊 还有那个telepathic 好希望他们能和好啊!!! 然後讲到Noel怎麽开始唱歌的 他说他一开始也没有想过 但Liam有时候会在演唱到一半的时候走下台 然後Noel就不得不接手 然後Noel说越这麽做 Liam就越觉得自己这样没关系XD Noel:"That's one of the reasons why I had to start doing vocals." 但Liam後来对於Noel唱accoustics也有表示:"When I'm allowed to do the job, then thing's good, yeah, I'm happy. When I'm not allowed to do the job, I'm not happy. He's a great f***ing songwriter and always will be, but singing's my gig. If you're going to start singing the f***ing songs as well as writing them, what am I doing, making the f***ing tea?" 接下来有一段关於各种上新闻还有引发争议的部分XD 关於Brit Awards Noel说:"What does a Brit Award mean? F**k all. In the grand scheme of things, all that sh*t was irrelevant. Has-beens shouldn't present f***ing awards to gonna-bes." 其中一个评审:"This will ruin your career." Noel:"If anyone's going to ruin my career, it's going to be me, not you." 还有"The one voted for by the fans means a lot. Anything that's voted for by fans is special. Anything that's voted for by idiots, corporate pigs, means nothing to us. You know, because really the music, f**k all that. Writing songs is difficult. Talking sh*t is easy." 实在太爱这样的Noel了XDD (喔然後Noel说Liam一个人应该要得最佳乐团奖因为他一个人就有七种人格之类的XD) 後来又有个因为谈到毒品然後引发很多政治人物不满XD "As soon as people realise that the majority of people in this country take drugs, then, I mean, the better off we'll all be ... You know, it's like getting up and having a cup of tea in the morning ... it's as common as having a cup of tea." 新闻媒体各种报导这句话 但Noel表示只要他们在头版上 他才不介意新闻怎麽写他们XD 後来关於Liam和Noel的父亲也是有不少新闻 Tommy Gallagher有一段时间一直想要跟他成名的儿子们连络上 发生一些事後Liam就不太爽 讲了一些威胁的话後来上了报纸 Peggie:"He had no intentions of making up with them. That was his last thought, but of course he got paid from the News Of The World. And then, of course, it was all over the papers the next day. He's always said it was me and the three kids that ruined his life. But I would just like him to know that it wasn't us that ruined his life. He ruined his own life." 不过我特别喜欢的一段是Noel看到Liam快要爆发时一直要他冷静 "Do not react" Paulo Hewitt:"To give Noel his due credit, he contained Liam because Liam would have gone for him and Noel protected his brother." Liam:"I probably got calmed down by Our Kid, I think." 整个觉得Noel是个好哥哥啊!!! 电影最後再度回到Knebworth那场经典的演唱会作为结尾 Noel在这边讲的旁白也超棒的 节录几段我很喜欢的:"This thing that we're all part of.It did feel like the end of something as opposed to the beginning of something. I had a sense of that, even at Knebworth ... that it was never going to happen again. That it happened in such a short space of time. Two-and-a-half years from signing off to walking out on that stage. It's just magic. We were a band who had the tunes, who were grafters, who came from nothing and wanted it all. We were the last. We were the greatest. Nothing anybody does could be as big as Oasis." "It was the pre-digital age. It was the pre-talent show, reality TV age. Things meant more. It was just a great time to be alive, never mind a great time to be in Oasis. We were about to enter into a celebrity-driven culture and I've always thought that it was the last, great gathering of the people before the birth of the Internet. It's no coincidence that things like that don't happen any more." "I just wanted it all, f***ing there and then, you know what I mean? I just wanted it all to happen in one big "f**k-off" explosion of madness. I loved every minute of it. It meant the be-all and end-all, man.Life or death. And I wouldn't change anything. I'd do it all again in a f***ing heartbeat." Second to last 是 Knebworth Gig上的Shampagne Supernova 那画面整个超嗨超疯狂的啊啊啊 真是羡慕那时候在场的人的 最後的结尾则是有Noel和Liam和Peggie的总结的旁白 (有几段我听的都要哭了orz) 配上Masterplan作结 Peggie有说:"I wish it had gone a different way,but it hasn't. It's caused a lot of problems with them two, but it's their life, so you have to just let them get on with it." Liam: "I get where she's coming from because obviously me and Our Kid ain't got a relationship any more." 听了简直很心碎啊当Liam这麽讲时QQQ (不过他也有讲就算当初没组团然後去当了鱼贩之类的也一样会打架XDDD) 抱歉好像不小心打太长了... 总之真的是超棒的一部纪录片啊!!! 人不在台湾没办法和大家一起包场看 不过希望大家也会跟我一样喜欢罗XD --

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 164.67.210.200 ※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Oasis/M.1478970000.A.3A5.html ※ 编辑: britpopkid (164.67.210.200), 11/13/2016 01:02:40 ※ 编辑: britpopkid (164.67.210.200), 11/13/2016 13:28:52 个人觉得这绝对值得买DVD收藏的XD 然後同意Blackbird大说的 他们的对话真的很白痴但又很有爱啊!!! 对照现在真的会看了有点感慨QQQ ※ 编辑: britpopkid (164.67.210.200), 11/14/2016 09:52:18