作者TitanChao (赵泰坦)
看板NextTopModel
标题[讨论] C18第五名赛後访谈
时间Fri May 18 16:50:47 2012
原文网址:
http://tinyurl.com/72blml2
30-NEVER/
50-FOREVER的访谈出来罗,英文不太好,翻译错的地方再请各位帮忙指正罗:)
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Q: What was your initial reaction to getting eliminated?
问:知道自己被淘汰时,你一开始的反应是什麽?
Eboni: In the moment when I got eliminated I was disappointed of course. I had
come so far, I could see the finish line, and I was almost there. But after I
thought about it, the fact that I could see the finish line in itself was
amazing. Coming so far and having so many girls, you know, there’s three girls
left in the house now. Coming that far is a huge accomplishment in itself. So
after the dust settled and the emotions cleared, I really felt proud of coming
that far.
Eboni:得知自己被淘汰的当下,我当然很失望。毕竟已经走了那麽远,几乎看得到终点,
就快要到达了。但思考过後,能看到终点线的本身就已经很了不起了;走了那麽远,周遭
又有那麽多的参赛者,你知道,现在房里还剩下三个参赛者,能拼到这个位置已经是很大
的成就了。所以尘埃落定,我的心情也平复时,我就真正开始为自己的表现感到骄傲了。
Q: Why did you struggle with the 30 Never branding?
问:你为什麽对於「青春永驻」这个品牌如此挣扎呢?
Eboni: I feel like sometimes the expectations the judges had for me led to some
of the criticism that I got during panel, and it caused me to overthink a lot
on my shoots and I think you can see that on my face. On the Hello Kitty week
[Cycle 18, Episode 8: “Georgina Chapman”], they were saying, “Oh she looks
confused.” And it’s like, I am confused! I’m overthinking this brand that
I’m trying to portray, I’m not sure why, I’m just overthinking it. And it
caused me to struggle a little bit during panel, and it caused me to struggle
during the challenges.
Eboni:我觉得有时候评审对我的期待会招来我在评审环节中的一些批判,这些批评造成我
拍照时想太多,观众都可以在我的表情上发现这个情形;像是在Hello Kitty照时,她们会
说:「她看起来一脸困惑。」,是啊,我的确很困惑,因为我对於如何表现出我的品牌这
件事上面想太多了,我尝试着想要带出自己的品牌感;我不知道是为什麽,但我就是想太
多。而这最终造成我在评审环节时的挣扎,也造成我在接受挑战时感到挣扎。
Eboni: For example, when we went to the Dorchester Hotel, that panel Kelly
[Cutrone] said, “Oh Eboni, you’re disrespecting the judges by not wearing
your ponytails to the casting.” Well I go on castings quite frequently. I
model outside of the show, I was modeling before the show, and never has my
agent ever told me that it was okay to wear my hair in ponytails. And I feel
like if I did wear my hair in ponytails they’d send me home laughing at me.
So with that inner conflict, and what I’ve learned being in the industry and
the conflict between what I’ve learned from castings in the industry and what
was being told to me on the show, I feel like it caused me to struggle
internally and it kind of came out in the work that I produced on the show.
Eboni:举例来说,当我们前往Dorchester旅馆时,石凯莉说:「Eboni,你为什麽来应徵
没有绑马尾?你这样是对评审意见的不尊重。」,我常常去应徵工作,我在节目外也有从
事模特儿工作,我在参赛前就已经从事模特儿工作了,从来没有任何一家经纪公司跟我提
过可以绑马尾;我觉得:如果我绑着马尾去应徵,会被对方取笑并赶回家去。所以我内在
有些冲突,我在这行饭里学到的、我在模特儿行业的应徵中所学到的和在节目上接收到的
指示之间的冲突,这些冲突造成我内心的挣扎,於是我在节目中的表现多少就反映出了我
的挣扎。
Q: What would you have branded yourself?
问:你会怎麽样去塑造自己的品牌呢?
Eboni: I don’t think I would brand myself. I think branding puts you in a box.
I don’t think Tyra has branded herself, because Tyra is one of the most
versatile models, that’s ever been in the industry. And she’s done, from
Vogue to Victoria’s Secret, from Seventeen magazine, she can be sexy, she can
be high fashion and
I think it’s kind of interesting that she chose to brand
us, when that’s what she did without a brand it kind of got her to where...
the things that she’s achieved in her career.
Eboni:我不觉得我会为自己树立品牌,我觉得品牌会限制住一个人。我也不觉得泰嬷有为
自己树立品牌,因为她其实是业界最多面化的模特儿之一,从Voque、Victoria's Secret
到Seventeen杂志都有她的踪影,她可以性感也可以时尚;所以我觉得她决定要为我们打造
品牌是件很耐人寻味的事,她自己本身就是因为没有品牌限制才能达到现在的成就。
Q: Why do you think you and Laura fought so much?
问:为什麽你会觉得自己跟Laura之间有很大的纷争?
Eboni: I wouldn’t call it... I don’t think me and Laura fought because
fighting goes two ways. I didn’t really retaliate or say anything to her. The
episode where her teddy bear’s ear got ripped off, you see me sitting there
rubbing her hand, rubbing her hair. I like Laura and I have compassion for
Laura. And I sat there for hours trying to comfort Laura when that happened and
somehow, something happened, the shift happened, her emotions towards me
changed, and I’m not sure why, and I think there was a lot of confusion.
That’s why you see that scene before we leave for Macau, sitting in the
bathroom and you see me ask Laura, “Why don’t you like me?” And she goes,
“Oh well you’re vain, you can be so vain sometimes, you’re a bitch.” And I
don’t see the vanity. [I don’t see where] there’s a point in the show where
I’m like, “I’m the greatest.” You don’t see me in the mirror or things
like that, and even if I was vain, I don’t see why Laura would hate me for
that, call me a bitch, tell me I need to go home. I feel like that’s a
personal internal battle that she’s fighting that has nothing to do with me.
Eboni:嗯…我不会把它定义成纷争,我不觉得我跟Laura之间有纷争,毕竟纷争是双方的
事,但我并没有真的去报复或对她说任何话。在Laura的泰迪熊耳朵被撕开的那一集,你们
可以看到我坐在旁边摸着她的手、摸着她的头发,我很喜欢而且同情Laura的遭遇,我坐在
那边数个小时想要安抚她当下的情绪;但曾几何时,事情发生了,有些转变了,她对我的
情绪改变了,我不知道为什麽,我对整件事也感到一团雾水。这也就是为什麽观众会看到
我们要出发前往澳门的那一天,我坐在浴室里问Laura:「你为什麽不喜欢我?」,而她回
答:「因为你很自恋,你有时候会显得很自大,你完全是个婊子。」;但我看不到我一点
让人觉得自负,我甚至没有表现过像是「我是最强的!」之类的状况,你也没看到我在镜
子里或之类的自恋行为;就算我真的自负好了,我也不清楚这到底哪一点招惹到Laura,让
她恨我、觉得我该回家。我个人是觉得那是Laura本身内在的战斗,而那场战争跟我一点关
联都没有。
Q: Who do you think will win?
问:你觉得谁会是最後赢家?
Eboni: If I had to pick one person to win, I think it’s between Sophie and
Laura just because I feel like Annaliese, she’s a great model, don’t get me
wrong, but she’s a presenter. And she’s using the competition as a stepping
stone, which most of us are, but we’re using it as a stepping stone to launch
our modeling careers, whereas she’s just using it to launch her presenting
career. So I think the other two models would benefit more from the prizes that
are being offered for us. As far as Sophie and Laura, I think Sophie deserves
it a little bit more than Laura. She said constantly throughout the competition
how much she wanted it, and I just think she has a better attitude and outlook
on the competition and just on modeling in general.
Eboni:如果必须要挑一个冠军,我想是Sophie或Laura其中之一,因为我觉得Annaliese,
别误会,她是个优秀的模特儿,但她是个主持人,她参加比赛只是为了做为她的垫脚石,
当然我们都是,但我们是为了往自己的模特儿职涯前进,而她是为了自己的主持人生涯迈
进。所以我想另外两名参赛者比较能从这次比赛的奖励中获益。至於Sophie和Laura之间,
我觉得Sophie又比Laura更值得赢得冠军一点,她在比赛中始终如一地表示她想要获胜,而
我觉得Sophie对於模特儿圈来说,她的态度和前景是比较好的。
Q: Did Annaliese tell you that she was just using ANTM to be a presenter?
问:Annaliese有跟你们说过,她参加ANTM是为了主持事业吗?
Eboni: Yeah, that’s something that she’s said on the show. She said, “I’m
not the best model here, I want to present, I’m a presenter.” And then Kelly
Cutrone has said it. I think Annaliese has made it very clear that that’s what
she wants to do and that’s fine. I think that’s great. And I think that this
is an amazing opportunity for her, I’m just looking at the prizes,the contract
with NY Models. If you’re going to be a presenter you don’t need to be with
NY Models, you need to be with a talent agency.
Eboni:是啊,这是她在节目上提到过的。她说:「我不是这场比赛最棒的模特儿,我想要
主持,我是个主持人。」,石凯莉也这样说。我想,Annaliese很清楚自己的目标,这是很
好的。我想这场比赛对她而言是很棒的机会,但我只觉得这些比赛的奖励、与纽约模特儿
公司的经纪约,如果你真的想成为主持人,那你其实不需要进入纽约模特儿经纪公司,你
应该找份艺人经纪约。
Q: Did you think new judge Kelly Cutrone was fair?
问:你觉得新评审石凯莉是公正的吗?
Eboni: I think she was fair and realistic, and based on the amount of work that
she’s done and the amount of runway shows that she’s produced and the people
she knows, I think she’s very knowledgeable and I think she’s not afraid to
share that knowledge or sugarcoat it or make it seem like something that it’s
not. There were a couple of opportunities where I got to talk to Kelly off-
camera and just get to understand what she’s saying, where she’s coming from.
Because there’s a slight difference between what is shown on camera and what
is shown off-camera, and I feel like her intentions are great and her
expectations are high, and when we don’t meet those expectations that’s when
there’s a problem. But she knows what the industry is looking for, and she
knows the standards that we need to hit in order to be in this industry.
Eboni:我觉得她是公正而且实际的人,基於她达成了那麽多的成就,制作过那麽多场时尚
秀,人脉又那麽广;我想她是很有知识,也毫不避讳去分享她在这一行的知识,不会为那
些事实裹上任何糖衣,或让那些事情失真。节目外,我有过一些机会去和石凯莉聊天,去
了解她所说的话,以及她的来由;银幕前後的状况真的是有些差距的,我认知到的她,意
图是好的、标准是高的,当我们达不到那些标准时,问题就来了;但她了解这个行业真正
要的是什麽,也知道我们要吃这行饭,必须达到的标准在哪里。
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1F:推 coonash:看完只觉得laura真是个谜样的女子 05/18 16:53
2F:推 BauRR:L内心是个小小世界 05/18 16:55
3F:推 momogi1105:L根本有人格分裂吧.... 05/18 17:03
4F:推 tingover:Eboni跟节目呈现的超好多喔 剪辑真的太可怕了 05/18 17:22
5F:推 zukidelko:Eboni说话很有内容欸! Titan大翻译的好也有差XD 05/18 17:26
6F:推 sakikazuki:看完赛後访谈对她好感度飙升耶.... 05/18 17:27
7F:推 kengie0617:我觉得如果泰妈哪天不做了,可以考虑让ann以餐桌照那集 05/18 17:30
8F:→ kengie0617:的造型接手主持,这样不论多难看我都会继续追ˊ_>ˋ 05/18 17:31
9F:推 mtyc:果然品牌设定是件莫名其妙的事 05/18 17:46
10F:→ TitanChao:第四名等吃完晚餐再翻XDDD 05/18 17:54
11F:推 Lucas500:Eboni突破盲点了~~她也知道Tyra明明没被品牌给束缚住确要 05/18 18:03
12F:→ Lucas500:求赋予这些model品牌是件奇怪的事XD 05/18 18:04
13F:推 steedptt:Eboni的访谈加分呀!!!L真的谜样 但她的照还是很合我胃口 05/18 18:59
14F:推 mhhe:我有点懂了 Eboni被laura这样对待 一定很失望 05/18 19:14
15F:→ mhhe:难怪她会一直在访谈说[可是Laura又讨厌我] 05/18 19:15
16F:→ recx:顺带一提文中的马尾是那个丑翻天的双马尾 05/18 19:26
17F:→ recx:应该不是指一般模特儿的俐落马尾 05/18 19:26
18F:推 loveaic:Laura感觉有点情绪上的控管问题,就是会突然没来由不爽某人 05/18 20:27
19F:→ hitech:看完报导可以推论苏菲不sneaky吗XD 因为她从头到尾都想赢XD 05/18 20:34
20F:→ TitanChao:NO..QQ,我希望Sophie有点sneaky,不然她就不是冠军了 05/18 20:35
21F:推 BornFish:加分+1 这季好多人都是被剪接害死..我还上当 05/18 21:53
22F:→ BornFish:Laura疯狂被扣分 05/18 21:54
23F:推 barucher:果然被华盛顿大学录取的人讲话就比较有深度点 05/18 22:08
24F:推 barucher:Laura真的有病 难怪我第一眼看到他就不爱了 05/18 22:26
25F:推 kyotenkacat:品牌那段真是太中肯 一连串访谈看下来 Queen Az Eboni 05/18 22:48
26F:→ kyotenkacat:很明显连参赛者都觉得"这节目是在搞屁啊"了XD 05/18 22:49
27F:推 BornFish:Eboni真的不适合这个称号 然後Kyle也不是next door型的.. 05/18 22:52
28F:→ BornFish:真的该把这种局限人的东西砍掉 05/18 22:52
29F:推 HATEBBS:开赛时只觉得Laura气质低俗,看到现在觉得气质只是最小的 05/18 22:56
30F:→ HATEBBS:问题...然後Eboni讲话言之有物,但在节目上被剪得像傻妹 05/18 22:56
31F:推 hoyumi:想当初泰嬷第一季不是要又可以ㄟ机 又可以拍牙膏广告的? 05/18 22:57
32F:推 hikaru1121:泰嬷出尔反尔到我都不知道这节目揪竟要选怎样的人了XD 05/18 23:29
33F:→ hikaru1121:Eboni访谈加分耶!!真的节目把她剪接得像白目女... 05/18 23:29
34F:→ hikaru1121:品牌真的害死一堆人!!拜托停止好吗!! 05/18 23:30
35F:→ hikaru1121:希望她以後可以发展很好,可以有自己的风格出来(譬如说 05/18 23:31
36F:→ hikaru1121:死亡台步!?)(喂XD) 05/18 23:31
37F:推 kengie0617:打从C17开始泰妈就宣布HF季正式终结~接下来我们要选的 05/18 23:31
38F:推 BornFish:还我15 16的品质 05/18 23:32
39F:→ kengie0617:是可抓马、还算会拍照、易操控的麻豆唷~ 05/18 23:32
40F:推 coonash:eboni未来假若都能呈现枫糖照的水准 前途不可限量 05/19 00:24
41F:推 kowei526:她真的是个成熟的好女孩啊!枫糖照那张出来时真的以为他 05/19 01:31
42F:→ kowei526:铁定夺冠,那张实在太棒了。 05/19 01:32
43F:推 ambition866:Eboni大加分> < 05/19 07:56
44F:推 Danieleye:Eboni加油! 05/19 09:14
45F:推 piggybean:其实从她应付laura的方式就看得出她很成熟 05/19 11:04
46F:推 sky79717:这季的照片几年後大家应该只会记得Eboni的枫糖照 05/19 11:04
47F:推 shoese:这季的参赛者几年後大家应该只会记得Kyle 05/19 11:32
48F:推 hoyumi:如果以後来办个"最有印象的mv部分讨论" 真的会想到她... 05/19 11:54
49F:推 yu000:HI! I'm Kyle. I smile from miles! 05/19 18:53
50F:→ mtnattp: ^for? 05/19 19:07
51F:推 Danieleye:这季的照片几年後大家应该只会记得Eboni的枫糖照 05/19 20:06
52F:→ Danieleye:至於Kyle则是隔壁的女孩 没有半点model样 05/19 20:06
53F:推 SuperLG:但我觉得Kyle的脸很HF耶= = 05/19 20:41
54F:推 NextTopModel:虽然我很不想这麽说 我刚开始也觉得kyle来这里干嘛 05/19 20:59
55F:→ NextTopModel:但後来真的觉得他有一点实力 但个人觉得没到hf 05/19 20:59
56F:推 ambition866:Kyle照片除了车子 3D外其他都偏冏 但名次都意外的高 05/19 23:25
57F:→ ambition866:个人觉得她长得不像Model比较偏演员那一型啦 05/19 23:26
58F:推 mhhe:我也觉得Klye的名次有点高估 05/19 23:27
59F:推 ambition866:提到Kyle就一定要说她的大改造真是有够糟糕 同Eboni 05/19 23:29
60F:推 BornFish:说高估也还好 这季一堆怪照片...她的算好了 05/19 23:30
61F:→ BornFish:这季选照真的非常奇怪 05/19 23:30
62F:→ ambition866:那刘海发色是很可爱啦 但根本fashion不起来 05/19 23:31
63F:→ loveaic:我也觉得Kyle的照片在这季被选一堆烂照的情况下算好的了 05/19 23:39
64F:→ piggybean:kyle没有灾难性的作品 (mv算吗XD) 05/20 00:03
65F:推 kathryn444:Hi I'm Kyle~~~~~~~~~~~~~XD 05/20 15:25
66F:推 muzikforme:我还蛮喜欢Kyle的 因为脸长才要有浏海吧 可惜都1号表情 05/22 11:36
67F:推 BornFish:这季最喜欢就Kyle跟Az 结果连两周 冏 05/22 14:44