作者alwaysblue (什麽样的生日....)
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标题[新闻] The great debate on CMW continues
时间Thu Dec 13 19:24:24 2007
The great debate on CMW continues
Here is an e-mail I just received. It was, of course, anonymous:
Wang doesn’t strike anyone out and depends on the ridiculous number of
groundballs he’s able to create being turned into outs. This is not a
reliable strategy that will produce consistent results over a career.
It is working in the short term, but as Bill James as pointed out in the
past, no pitcher with a K/9 below the league average has gone on to have
a meaningful career. He’s in no way in the same class as someone like
Beckett and is most definitely not an ace. Unless he develops a legit
strikeout pitch there will always be the risk that the groundballs get
through and he’ll have bad starts. He can’t be counted on in the
playoffs.
So, the 417.1 innings Wang has pitched the last two seasons are a
short-term mirage. His going 38-13 is a sign of not having a reliable
strategy. But the 5.2 poor innings he had in the playoffs, those are a
sign that he can’t be counted on.
I think I got my first Bill James report in 1988 and I just received his
2008 Handbook in the mail. His approach is endlessly fascinating. But
when the statheads like my anonymous friend leave no room for humanity is
where they lose me.
Wang has made only 80 starts in his career, most with two pitches. I’ve
stood there and watched him work on other pitches in the bullpen. I’ve
talked to him at length about it. He knows people sit on his sinker. Did
you know that his slider was his best pitch in college but the Yankees had
him dump it when he had shoulder issues? Now he’s healthy and he’s
working on it again. He also is doing a lot of work on a changeup.
This guy shows up every five days, he pitches deep into games and he has
handled almost every big-game assignment with aplomb. Why people insist
on running him down remains a mystery to me.
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1F：推 sxxs: hi~I'm here~ XDDD 12/13 19:37
2F：推 whereisjwill:翻译推! 12/13 19:44
3F：推 scjh123:pv季後赛成绩超惨+今年关键加赛又爆..可是也没影响薪水.. 12/13 19:52
4F：→ scjh123:为啥王就会这麽被放大检视呢? 12/13 19:53
5F：推 gerkk:可能因为王是亚洲人又是这样极端的特例吧 12/13 20:00
6F：推 kauw:或许王在洋基 PV在教士吧 两队打线是LP比鸡腿.. 12/13 20:03
7F：推 scjh123:我是觉得王已做好他的本分了..只是洋基近年投手太鸟..大家 12/13 20:05
8F：→ scjh123:才会把目光全部放在他那....也都拿放大镜看他的成绩吧 12/13 20:06
9F：推 Nilthoron:我觉得因为他是个以过去的统计数据很难解释的特例吧 12/13 20:08
10F：→ shancko:亚洲人论又出来罗 12/13 20:15
11F：推 yoyoboy1:他是名门洋基本质上的Ace 数据又特殊 当然放大镜检视 12/13 20:19
12F：→ yoyoboy1:如果明年Santana能来 王当2号SP 就比较不会让人"关注" 12/13 20:20
13F：推 nplnt:不看三振 但还是觉得王的ERA偏高 排名只有20多 虽然前面很多 12/13 20:49
14F：→ nplnt:国联的 12/13 20:50
15F：推 tsming:其实我对Peter这麽帮王讲好话很感兴趣:P 真不知道为什麽XD 12/13 20:52
16F：推 akainorei:楼上, 因为满满的爱 12/13 21:28
17F：推 bigsun0709:如果小王能把慢速的变化球练得跟他的sinker一样，成绩 12/13 21:26
18F：→ bigsun0709:应该就可以让那些人闭嘴~缺少破坏打者的速度感应该是小 12/13 21:28
19F：→ bigsun0709:王要更进化必备的东西 12/13 21:29
20F：推 chrislux:王被放大检视唯一的原因只有：这是王板 12/13 21:32
21F：→ chrislux:这是洋基板啦= =b 我的意思是这干peavy什麽事 12/13 21:34
22F：推 windsor:我比较好奇如果王明年再拿15胜以上,数据派专家会说甚麽 12/13 22:02
23F：推 RaXePhOnZeRo:数据专家千百种 你期待听到什麽话? 12/13 22:04
24F：推 siliver:其实季後赛表现不好的都会被骂拉,只是大家不会去注意而已. 12/13 22:06
25F：推 kc1345:Mirage...那麻烦再来个380-130 10years-term的mirage 科科 12/13 22:08
26F：→ kc1345: 20 12/13 22:10
27F：推 windsor:个人以为,数据专家过去的说法其实都很统一 12/13 22:14
28F：推 idolman:感谢翻译 12/13 22:45
29F：推 HwaJet: 为什麽大家总是要贬低他的价值？这也让我百思不得其解啊！ 12/13 23:06
30F：推 tsming:按照Kevin Brown的发展模式，王打满十年就会练出K博士了XD 12/13 23:18
31F：推 StrangeJ:感谢翻译 12/13 23:21
32F：推 tsming:说真的很搞笑的是，王用的是所谓球路不够的RP模式在先发 12/13 23:38
33F：→ tsming:球路单调加上速球多用到很夸张的地步，以这种方式先发让人 12/13 23:40
34F：→ tsming:崇拜到一种地步:P 根本是MLB怪杰 12/13 23:41
35F：推 eon4:翻译好像有点小错..bill james是一个棒球作家吧 12/14 00:28
36F：推 redsnipertd:Bill James是个超级数据头~ 12/14 00:36
37F：→ alwaysblue:感谢指正..已经更改翻译的内容了..多谢~~ 12/14 10:27