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标题[外絮]Givony国际球员笔记(下)--Klintman、Dadiet、Nunez、Djurisic
时间Fri Jun 7 10:14:11 2024
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Bobi Klintman, SF/PF, Cairns Taipans (Australia)
Bobi Klintman,前锋,Cairns Taipans(澳洲)
21岁|6'10"|212lb
ESPN No. 24 Mock No. 26
Quick background: A native of Malmo, Sweden, Klintman arrived in the U.S. in
2021, enrolling at Sunrise Christian Academy, a prep school in Wichita,
Kansas. He spent his freshman year of college at Wake Forest before signing
with the Cairns Taipans of the Australian NBL.
背景:来自瑞典的Malmo,Klintman在21年来到了美国并入学了Sunrise Christian Academy
,Wichita, Kansas的一间篮球预校。他在与澳洲职篮Cairns Taipans签约之前在Wake
Forest打了大学新鲜人赛季。
Stats that stand out: Klintman has excellent size for the wing at just under
6-10 in shoes and with a standing reach of 8-10½, both of which should allow
him to spend time at power forward with relative ease as his 212-pound frame
fills out.
出色的数据:Klintman有着对於侧翼来说很好的身材,穿鞋摸到6'10"并有着8'10.5的摸高
,这两项随着他212磅的身材增重後可以打更多的强力前锋。
Bet you didn't know: No Swedish player has ever been selected in the NBA
draft's first round.
你可能不知道的事:没有任何瑞典球员有在第一轮中选过。
Scout's take: Klintman looks the part of an NBA wing physically and then
some, showing intriguing versatility with his perimeter shooting,
transition-finishing prowess and defensive versatility. Every team is
theoretically looking for players in this mold who can stretch the floor,
attack closeouts, get out in the open court, and have some playmaking ability
getting on the glass and generating turnovers. Klintman has definite upside
to tap into, which he showed with the improvement he made from his freshman
season at Wake Forest to Cairns as he got off to a somewhat later start than
most to playing high-level organized basketball.
球探的看法:Klintman有着NBA侧翼的身材规格且展示了吸引人的弹性如外围投射、快攻终
结与防守弹性。每一支球队理论上都在寻找这种组成的球员--可以拉开空间、攻击回位、
快攻时冲锋、且有一点助攻能力、篮板能力以及制造对方失误的能力。Klintman拥有明显
的潜力,他从Wake Forest到Cairns的进步展示了这一点,,尽管他开始高水准组织篮球的
时间比大多数人要晚一些。
Areas for improvement at the next level: Klintman is somewhat of a jack of
all trades, master of none, as it's not entirely clear what he hangs his hat
on yet. He's a streaky shooter who isn't particularly dynamic with the way he
gets his jumper off, and he isn't much of a ball handler to compensate. He
has a tendency to relax or avoid contact at times on both ends of the floor,
and there are some question marks about his feel for the game, as he averaged
twice as many turnovers as assists this season and was mistake-prone
defensively.
需要进步的地方:Klintman样样通样样松,目前还不知道他擅长甚麽。他是个出手很吃手感
的射手且没有很好的动态投射,他也没有好的运球去弥补。在攻防两端有时会松懈或逃避
身体碰撞,对比赛的感觉也有些疑虑所以他的失误是他助攻的两倍且在防守端也时常犯错
。
Pacome Dadiet, SF, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany)
Pacome Dadiet,小前锋,Ratiopharm Ulm(德国)
18岁|6'9"|217lb
ESPN No.38
Quick background: From the Parisian suburbs, with roots in the Ivory Coast,
Dadiet made his professional debut just months after turning 16 years old,
seeing minutes for Paris Basket in Pro A France. In the summer of 2022, he
left for German team Ratiopharm Ulm, following in the footsteps of former
Detroit Pistons player Killian Hayes, but was hampered by injuries and a
contract dispute with his former club that prevented him from seeing much
action. This season he stepped into a solid 15-minute per-game role as an
18-year-old competing in the EuroCup and German BBL, growing in effectiveness
as the season moved on.
背景:来自巴黎近郊并是象牙海岸裔,Dadiet在16岁後几个月Dadiet就打进了职业病在法甲
的巴黎球队取得时间。在2022夏天,他跟随前底特律活塞球员Killian Hayes的脚步离开法
国去德国队伍Ratiopharm Ulm,但他在那边遭遇了伤病以及与球队的合约争议而遭到冷冻
。这季他以18岁的年纪拿到了场均15分钟的时间并随着比赛进行扩大自己的影响力。
Stats that stand out: Dadiet finished the season averaging 9.1 points and 3.6
rebounds in 17 minutes, shooting 84% for 2 and 43% for 3 over his final 10
games. In 59 games, he shot 64% for 2 and 36% for 3.
出色的数据:Dadiet本季最终10场场均打17分钟可以得到9.1分3.6篮板并有84%的两分命中
率及43%的三分命中率。全部59场则有64%的两分命中率及36%的三分命中率。
Bet you didn't know: Dadiet grew up playing in a small French club called
Saint-Charles Charenton alongside fellow 2024 draft prospects Tidjane Salaun,
Armel Traore and Mohamed Diawara. The club previously played a role in
developing NBA players Evan Fournier and Moussa Diabate, as well as projected
2025 NBA draft pick Nolan Traore.
你可能不知道的事:Dadiet从小在法国的一个叫Saint-Charles Charenton的小型俱乐部跟
Tidjane Salaun、Armel Traore与Mohamed Diawara一起打球。这个俱乐部之前培养过NBA
球员Evan Fournier与Moussa Diabate,以及2025选秀球员Nolan Traore。
Scout's take: Dadiet has excellent size for a wing at 6-foot-9 and good
scoring instincts for both finishing around the rim and making shots with his
feet set and pulling up off the dribble. He found ways to score relatively
prolifically this season going up against a high-level competition with good
efficiency, making notable strides as the season moved on. He's one of the
youngest prospects in this draft, turning 19 on July 27.
球探的看法:Dadiet有出色的6'9"侧翼身材及无论是在篮框周围与外围无论定点还是运球後
动态投射都好的得分本能。本赛季他面对高强度的对手时找到了相对高效的得分方式,随
着赛季进行他也越打越好。他也是本次候选球员中最年轻之一,他7/27才要满19岁。
Areas for improvement at the next level: Dadiet is an average athlete, ball
handler and passer, putting pressure on himself to become a high-level
shooter to carve out a consistent niche in an NBA rotation. He's a career 31%
3-point shooter but has converted 79% of his free throw attempts and has
shown real progress with his shot-making prowess this season. Dadiet's
defense was the main thing holding him back from playing more minutes for Ulm
despite his strong scoring production. He struggles to guard quicker players
on an island, gets pushed around by stronger players, and doesn't have much
length or agility to get back into plays when beat. Like many young players,
Dadiet's off-ball defense is poor, getting lost and falling asleep in his
stance frequently with average awareness. Dadiet is telling teams he is not
interested in being stashed in Europe next season, insisting on being brought
to the NBA immediately by the team that drafts him. For that reason, he might
elect to withdraw his name at the June 16 international deadline.
需要进步的地方:Dadiet的体能、运球与传球都普通,他如果想要在NBA轮替站稳脚跟需要
成为高水准的射手。他生涯三分命中率仅有31%但他有着79%的罚球命中率且他本季投篮有
在逐渐进步。尽管他得分表现很好,差劲的防守是他没办法在Ulm获得更多时间的原因。他
在防速度更快的球员时表现挣扎且会被比他更壮的球员顶飞,他也没有甚麽长度或敏捷性
可以使他防守端落後之後再反弹回来。如同许多年轻球员,Dadiet的无球防守糟糕,他时
常迷路或是分心且只有普通的意识。Dadiet已经告诉球队他对於回到欧洲没兴趣了,坚持
要立刻前往NBA选中他的队伍。因为这个原因,他有可能在6月16日国际球员的撤回期限撤
回他的名字(我有点看不懂这边的因果lol,应该是不愿意被放养海外?)。
Juan Nunez, PG, Ratiopharm Ulm (Germany)
Juan Nunez,控卫,Ratiopham Ulm(德国)
19岁|6'5"|206lb
ESPN No. 37
Quick background: Nunez has long been considered among the top international
prospects in his age group, being named MVP of the Spanish MiniCopa days
after turning 14. He played a key role in Spain knocking off a 15-year-old
Wembanyama and France in the FIBA U16 European Championship final, dropping
21 points in the gold medal game despite being the youngest player on either
squad. He has represented the Spanish national teams at different levels of
competition, including most notably at the senior level in the FIBA World Cup
last summer where he started and played a key role. Nunez left Real Madrid
shortly after turning 18 and spent the past two seasons in Germany with
Ratiopharm Ulm. He won the BBL championship in 2023 and stepped into a
starting role this season, increasing his productivity and efficiency in
several categories.
背景:Nunez长期以来都被认为是同届顶级的国际新秀,他在西班牙的MiniCopa刚满14岁时
就拿下MVP。他在西班牙U16欧洲盃决赛淘汰15岁的Wembanyama与法国队时扮演关键角色,
他虽然是整场最小的球员却在金牌战获得21分。他在各个不同层级都代表西班牙国家队出
战,其中包含了去年夏天最高层级的成人组FIBA世界盃,他不但先发还担任重要角色。
Nunez刚满18就离开了皇家马德里并在德国的Ratiopharm Ulm打了两个球季。他在2023年拿
下2023 BBL冠军并在本季成为先发,让他在一些项目的产量与效率都达到了成长。
Stats that stand out: Nunez ranked as a top-3 passer in the EuroCup this
season with 5.7 assists per game, slating second on a per-minute basis.
出色的数据:Nunez是本季欧洲盃前3名的传球手,场均5.7助攻且分均助攻第二。
Bet you didn't know: Nunez is juggling national team duties with the NBA
pre-draft process, as he has already been summoned to join Spain's training
camp in preparation for the Olympic qualifying tournament June 10, something
that might ultimately force him to withdraw from the NBA draft. He conducted
two pre-draft workouts with the Milwaukee Bucks and Minnesota Timberwolves
prior to attending the draft combine in Treviso, Italy, and will head
straight to Spain's training camp from there, where he'll compete with Ricky
Rubio and Lorenzo Brown as the main point guards on Spain's roster.
你可能不知道的事:Nunez目前被NBA选前流程与国家队夹在中间,他已经被西班牙代表队徵
召至训练营以准备6/10的奥运资格赛,而这有可能会迫使他退出NBA选秀。他在义大利的体
测前已经有为密尔瓦基公鹿与明尼苏达灰狼试训过,他在体测後也会直接离开去参加国家
队训练营,他要在那边与Ricky Rubio及Lorenzo Brown竞争西班牙国家队的先发主控位置
。
Scout's take: Nunez has good size for a point guard at 6-foot-5 with
outstanding ballhandling and playmaking ability. He has an outstanding feel
for the game and some of the best vision, creativity and flair for
pick-and-roll reads of any player in this class. Nunez made progress as a
finisher, defender and decision-maker this season, even if he still has
plenty of room to improve in these areas. He boasts a wealth of experience at
some of the highest levels of competition you'll find from a player his age,
both in Europe at the FIBA level and with the Spanish national team. Nunez
also offers teams flexibility, as he's one of the few international players
who is willing to be stashed in Europe; he's rumored to be returning to Spain
to play in the Euroleague next season, possibly with Barcelona.
球探的看法:Nunez有着控卫来说很好的6'5"身高及出色的运球及控场能力。他有漂亮的比
赛感觉以及一些最好的视野、创造力与挡拆阅读天赋。Nunez作为终结者、防守者与决策者
本季都有进步,即使他在这些方面都还有进步的空间。他在高水准的竞争在他的年纪已经
有了最丰富的经验,无论是在欧洲FIBA等级还是做为西班牙国家队成员。Nunez也提供球队
弹性,因为他是少数还愿意被放养在欧洲的国际球员;他有传闻他下一季想要在西班牙打欧
洲联赛(可能是巴塞隆纳)。
Areas for improvement at the next level: Nunez's jump shot has long been
considered his biggest weakness, as he's a career 27% 3-point shooter and at
60% from the free throw line in 274 games in the DraftExpress database. He
has some off-the-dribble shot-making prowess and hit an improved 32% of his
attempts on decent volume -- but his awkward mechanics and general
streakiness put a damper on his long-term outlook here. Nunez doesn't have
great physical tools in terms of his frame, length or explosiveness, which
hampers him defensively, an area he hasn't prioritized from an intensity
standpoint prior to this season. His feel for the game shows up in the way he
generates steals at an extremely high level, but he's unlikely to be a major
positive on this end of the floor considering his lack of agility operating
out of a stance.
需要进步的地方:Nunez的跳投长期都被认为是他最大的弱点,他生涯274场比赛只有27%的
三分命中率与60%的罚球命中率。他有展现一些运球後投篮的能力且在足量的尝试下有达到
32%的水准--但他奇怪的机制与手感整体不稳定影响了他的前景。Nunez的体能(包含他的身
材、长度还是爆发力)都称不上出色,这也影响的他防守能力,更之前的赛季他也不会视防
守为优先选项。他对球赛的感觉体现在他优秀的超杰上,但考量他运动时的敏捷度他不太
像会是一个能在防守整体带来正向价值的球员。
(OS:这家伙听起来根本就是 卢...楼下肥头)
Nikola Djurisic, Small Forward, Mega MIS (Serbia)
Nikola Djurisic(应该是朱力斯奇之类的),小前锋,Mega MIS(塞尔维亚)
20岁|6'8"|209lb
ESPN No.39
Quick background: Djurisic was identified as a high-level prospect in Serbia
from an early age, being the youngest player invited to the FIBA U16 European
Championship team as a 15-year-old and then playing up two years at the FIBA
U19 World Cup in 2021 as well. He was a projected first-round pick in the
2023 NBA draft after a strong showing against eventual top-5 picks Amen and
Ausar Thompson in an exhibition game versus Overtime Elite in Belgrade, but
saw his stock falter amid inconsistent play. Djurisic's season got off to a
somewhat rocky start, but he played outstanding basketball over the final
three months, helping Mega MIS go on a prolonged winning streak that ended
with a semifinal loss in the Adriatic League playoffs to eventual champions
Red Star.
背景:Djurisic从很小的时候就被认为是塞尔维亚高等级的潜力,他15岁时成为受邀参加
FIBA U16欧洲冠军队最年轻的球员并在2年後就参加了FIBA U19世界盃。他原本2023在OTE
在贝尔格勒举办的热身赛对决最终成为前5顺位的Amen与Ausar Thompson兄弟时表现出色而
被预测为首轮,但他之後不稳定的表现最终造成了他行情的下滑。Djurisic开季的表现并
不顺利,但在最後三个月打出了出色的篮球帮助Mega MIS取得一波连胜才在准决赛输给了
最後的冠军Red Star。
Stats that stand out: Over the final 10 games of the Adriatic League season,
Djurisic averaged 21.9 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.6 assists and 1.5 steals per
game, shooting 55% for 2 and 46% for 3. His team went 8-2 in that span.
出色的数据:最後10场比赛他场均21.9分3.9篮板3.6助攻1.5抄截并有着55%的2分球命中率
及46%的三分命中率。他的球队也拿下8胜2败。
Bet you didn't know: Djurisic's mother, Vesna takovi won a bronze medal
in volleyball at the 2006 World Championship in Japan, two years after
Djurisic was born, and was the captain of the Serbian national team at the
Beijing Olympics in 2008. Djurisic played many sports growing up, including
karate, tennis, swimming and soccer. Djurisic's father, Dusko Djurisic,
played soccer professionally in Switzerland, France, Israel, Cyprus, Germany
and Belgium.
你可能不知道的事:Djurisic的妈妈Vesna Takovi是2006年日本排球世界盃的铜牌,在
Djurisic出生的2年後成为塞尔维亚国家队在2008年北京奥运的队长。Djurisic成长过程中
打过很多运动,其中包含空手道、网球、游泳与足球。Djurisic的爸爸Dusko Djurisic则
是一名曾在瑞士、法国、以色列、赛普勒斯、德国与比利时踢过球的职业足球员。
Scout's take: Djurisic has excellent size for a wing standing over 6-foot-8
in shoes with a strong frame and good physical tools. He was a legitimate
shot-creator for Mega MIS, being tasked with significant pick-and-roll and
isolation responsibility thanks to his powerful first step and explosiveness
finishing above the rim. He has some passing creativity as well.
球探的看法:Djurisic有着出色的侧翼体型(穿鞋6'8")并有不错的体能条件。他在Mega MIS
是可靠的得分手,靠着他强力的第一步与爆发终结能力负责大量的挡拆与单打任务。他也
有一些传球创造力。
Areas for improvement at the next level: Despite a red-hot end to the season,
Djurisic shot 32% for 3 overall and is a career 29% 3-point shooter in 174
games. His shot selection and decision-making can be questionable at times,
as he ranked among the Adriatic League's leaders in turnovers, and his
occasional lack of awareness shows up pretty vividly on the defensive end.
需要进步的地方:尽管他以火热的状态结束赛季,Djurisic本季三分命中率也仅有32%且生
涯174场比赛仅有29%的三分命中率。他的投篮选择跟决策有时候会令人质疑,这使他成为
Adriatic联盟最多失误的球员之一。而他偶尔在防守端注意力不集中的问题非常显眼。
(球探报告其实听起来没那麽不堪 但好像又不是很好XD)
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4F:推 tim19990312 : Dadiet my guy 06/07 10:32
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5F:推 tmac0517 : Rubio没在名单内 06/07 10:38
6F:推 EMANON231 : Dadiet看着还不错 06/07 10:52
7F:推 MookieBetts : Taipans 台北人还不快挺起来 06/07 11:52
8F:推 heyjude1118 : Bobi Klintman是弹跳有点太低 06/07 13:14