前言:篇幅长，所以我没有全篇翻，挑重点整理 来源:The rose garden report (Sean Highkin 拓荒者队伍记者) 网址:https://reurl.cc/GXMrLd https://reurl.cc/LX9drK (拓荒者球迷信箱答疑) https://i.imgur.com/pcoo4Wo.jpg We're in the middle of my least favorite week of the NBA calendar. 我们正处在NBA日程中我最不喜欢的一周当中 There are no trades yet—just a lot of waiting and a lot of rumors. And with that comes a lot of stress for everyone. For those of us on the media side, it's trying to chase this stuff and figure out which whispers we hear are real and which ones are posturing. For you, the fan, it's spending hours killing time on the Trade Machine wondering why your team's GM won't just do something already. For the GMs themselves, there are a lot of moving parts to juggle—multiple talks about the same players with different teams, figuring out what works under the salary cap, mitigating leaks and leverage plays. 目前尚未有交易案发生，只能在满满的乳摸中等待。山雨欲来风满楼，对於我们这群 记者来说，一直在试图确认这些留言是否真实，抑或只是来带带风向。但对球迷而言， 只是玩玩Trade Machine来杀时间并质疑总管怎麽还没开始动作。可总管的层面有 需多细节需要处理，沙盘推演同一位球员在不同球队的状况，包含薪资空间的利用、 降低见光死的风险及後续的蝴蝶效应 It's even worse for players. Even the guys that swear they don't read social media or pay attention to this stuff are lying. Everyone in every locker room sees the same rumors you see and knows who's on the block, even if they don't talk about it in the open. They hear you screaming online to trade them. Some are affected by it, some are not. The players who know they're being traded know that means they're going to have to move their families to a new city on short notice. You can make the argument that NBA players get paid a lot of money to deal with these headaches, but that doesn't mean they're not real. 对球员的影响更糟，甚至是那群发誓不关注社交媒体或这些流言的人只是在说谎罢了， 每一位在更衣室的球员都会跟你各位看见相同的乳摸，且更清楚知道谁在台面上， 即使他们不会公开谈论这些。当球迷在网路大喊交易时，有些球员会受影响，有些不会。 球员当被告知交易时，不得不短时间准备好带着家人搬到新城市，你确实可以说NBA球员 赚这麽多钱本来就该面对这些，但这就是实际发生在球员身上的事 It makes everyone in the building on-edge, especially within teams in situations like Portland's, where losses have piled up lately and everybody knows changes are coming. Even Damian Lillard, the most even-keeled player I've ever covered, snapped at a reporter a couple weeks ago for asking a question about the trade deadline after a bad loss to the Lakers, and he's the only guy on this team that knows he's not getting traded. Everyone's feeling it, and everyone would rather it be in the rear view. 这使得每个人都处於风口浪尖，尤其是像波特兰这样的球队，近期的影响逐渐增大， 且每位球员都知道即将有变动。就连Dame也一样，在我采访生涯中最冷静的球员， 也在几周前输给湖人的比赛後，对一名提问关於交易大限的记者发火，他也是队伍 唯一一名不会被交易的球员。每位球员都能感受到这股氛围，也希望能在未来蓝图内。 The Blazers are in a very different spot now than they were a year ago. In February of 2022, they had already made the decision to shut Lillard down for a core muscle surgery and pivot the rest of that season towards what they called "player development," which really just meant losing a lot of games to get a high draft pick. Everyone knew C.J. McCollum was being shopped, along with other high-priced veterans like Norman Powell and Robert Covington who weren't going to be part of the long-term plan and didn't click with first-year head coach Chauncey Billups. The organization was still picking up the pieces from last winter's investigation and eventual firing of president of basketball operations Neil Olshey, and it wasn't clear how much authority Cronin would have to make a major trade as an interim GM still trying to earn the permanent job. 拓荒者目前的状况跟一年前大不相同。2022年2月，决定把小李关机进行核心肌肉手术， 并在剩余赛程开展所谓的"球员发展"计画，其实就是开坦高顺位选秀签。每个人都清楚 CJ摆在货架上，包含高价值的老将，像是炮哥及RoCo，他们不被放在球队的未来蓝图， 且跟第一年的总教练枪西不合。球团也正在处理2021冬天的调查，并开除了前总管奥总， 而刚上任的临时总管克总也还不清楚有多少权力去处理重大交易，且在努力争取正式的 总管身分。 Now comes the hard part: taking a roster with some things to like but a long, long way to go to become elite, and reshaping it again into whatever the contending version of the final years of Lillard's prime will look like. 现在是困难的阶段：构建球队阵容，目前要成为劲旅还有很长很长的路要走，如何在小李 最後的几年巅峰期去重组名单。 --------------以下是球迷信箱答疑--------- "Do you think the Blazers' recent play this season will affect Jerami Grant's willingness to re-sign with Portland this year? And more importantly, if Grant and his team force Cronin to wait until unrestricted free agency—when they're competing against Memphis and 'maybe' Los Angeles, will he be worth paying $120-$160M in salary over 4-5 years? Would that turn the Blazers into, as Hollinger describes them, "Wizards West?" 「你认为拓荒者近期的表现是否会影响Grant的续约意愿?更重要的，要是Grant团队 迫使克总等到Grant变成非受限自由球员，当拓荒者对决灰熊或洛城双雄是否值得给他 120-160M/4or5y的合约? 会不会让拓荒者变成火灵哥描述的那样"西区巫师队"?」 I don't think a few bad weeks in January changes anything on either side. The Blazers didn't trade for Grant to let him walk after one season, and Grant from what I know is very happy here. 我不认为1月份几个糟糕的星期会改变双方任何事情。拓荒者不会让Grant打一季就离开， 且就我所知，Grant待得很开心 Grant recently told The Athletic that he's unlikely to sign the four-year, $112 million extension he's eligible for right now, which isn't a surprise. Why would he lock himself into a number he's outplayed this season when he'll be able to get more years and more money by waiting six months? It's probably going to be one of those deals that gets "agreed to" at 12:01 on June 30, like Anfernee Simons this past summer, because the Blazers and Grant's representatives will already have a good idea of what makes both sides happy. So I wouldn't expect any drama there. Grant最近告知The Athletic他不太可能签下112M/4Y的续约合约，这其实不令人意外。 他的赛季表现远大於这个金额的价值，尤其六个月後能获得更多钱及更多的合约年， 何必现在接受呢? 但很有可能成为自由市场刚开市就谈妥的合约之一，像是去年的赛门 一样，因为拓荒者球团跟Grant团队已经有共识什麽能让双方都开心，所以我不觉得会有 任何的抓马发生。 I'd expect the deal he ultimately signs to be somewhere in the range of $30 million per year over four or five years, enough above the $28 million annual salary that would be his max now for him to be able to say he earned a bigger deal, but not so much more that it kills Portland's cap sheet long-term. Grant turns 29 in March; even if he's able to get a fifth year by waiting until the summer to re-sign with Portland, his next contract will take him through his age-34 season. It's not crazy at all to think he'll still be a productive player by then, and the final three years of the deal will be under the much higher salary cap that's expected to come when the league's new TV deal kicks in in 2025. 我预计Grant会签下年均30M的四年或五年合约，足以超过他目前的最高年薪28M，他会获 得更高的薪水，但并不会卡死拓荒者未来薪资空间，即使暑假有利用鸟权签下五年合约， 绑定他到34岁。认为他到时仍然是一名有贡献能力的球员也不太疯狂，甚至最後三年期间 的薪资帽预期会提高很多，因2025年新电视转播合约开始生效。 You're going to see the number of $233 million thrown around as the max Grant could sign for this summer, but that's just what he's eligible to get under league rules. It's not going to be close to that. As we see every summer when deals get reported in the opening minutes of the free agency period, teams and players often have handshake agreements already in place. Given the positive things both sides have said about each other here, I'd be shocked if that wasn't the case with Grant and the Blazers. 你会看到Grant可能签下233M的顶薪，那是他有资格根据联盟CBA所能争取到的最大金额。 但不会接近这数字的。当签约消息在自由市场开市後被报导时，球队与球员通常已经有 握手协议。根据双方已经商谈过的积极意向，如果拓荒者跟Grant分手我会非常惊讶。 (後续跟巫师的战文内容我略过，这篇不是用来战的) "We gotta trade Hart, right? I mean...we just gotta. We won't let him walk, so if we don't trade him, we end up signing him, when we don't really want to...at least that's my guess. SO - who do you see out there? Who makes sense? Would Hart get us Vanderbilt? Do the Bucks make sense for Hart? Ingles? SO - do you think we trade him, and if so, who do you see out there? If you don't think we trade him, do you think we end up signing him? For how much? Thanks! So happy I subscribed. I'll certainly be a long term subscriber. Thanks for your work." 「我们会交易Hart，对吧? 我是说，可能必须交易。我们不会让Hart变空气，所以假如 我们不交易他，我们即使不想最终也会续约他，这只是我的猜测。 那你有什麽消息吗?交易谁合理? Hart for Vanderbilt(Jazz)?公鹿对Hart有兴趣吗? 换Ingles? 如果你觉得拓荒者不会交易Hart，那你认为拓荒者会续约吗?开多少价码?」 Nothing is done until it's done, but I'll be very surprised if Hart is still a Blazer at this time next week, for all the reasons you've laid out. Nassir Little has played well enough to start since coming back from his hip injury last month, and re-signing Hart for what his market value will be doesn't make sense financially considering the other money they'll have committed to starters and how far the roster still has to go to be a contender. 交易完成前什麽也做不了，但要是Hart交易大限之後还留在拓荒者，我会非常惊讶， 因为你已经把原因说出来了。Little从臀部伤势回归後，表现已经足够好，且重签Hart 的市场合理价格对於薪资空间的利用没有道理，这是因为考量到会给其他先发球员更多 的薪资，且必须把拓荒者的球员名单打造成劲旅。 I don't like to get too deep into hypothetical trade targets because I actually talk to the people involved here, so I'm wary of what I say I think they could get for Hart being misconstrued as reporting that they've actually had those talks, but I will say that Hart easily has the most value of anyone on the roster likely to be moved. He checks all the boxes of being on a good contract and being a valuable and versatile enough player that every team in the league would want him, to where Portland could get something of value for him. That's why I think he's just about certain to be moved. 我不喜欢太过深入的探讨交易目标，因为我实际跟拓荒者相关人员聊过，所以我必须 谨慎得把持能透漏的内容，否则很可能让Hart被误解报导出来已经有商谈交易事宜， 但我可以很肯定Hart是可动名单内最有价值的球员。Hart符合所有条件，良好合约， 有价值且多功能性的球员，联盟内几乎所有球队都会需要他，以至於拓荒者可以取得 不错的资产回报。这就是我认为Hart几乎是一定会被交易出去的理由。 "There's been lots of talk of Hart, Nurk & Winslow being available on the trade market. But I'm wondering, of all the other guys not discussed as much, who do you think is the one most likely to be traded that might be a surprise to the fanbase? Watford? GP2? Nas? We've heard Dame and Ant are untouchable, Grant and Shaedon also but little else. Interested to hear your thoughts." 「近期有很多关於Hart、Nurkic和Winslow的乳摸。但我想知道是否有其他没有太多讨论 的球员中，有你认为最有可能被交易的球员，并会让球迷震惊的? Watford? GP2? Little? 因为我们已经了解小李、赛门是不动产，也包含Sharpe跟Grant，除了他们都有可能。 想听听看你的看法。」 The three you named at the top—Hart, Nurkic and Winslow—are the most likely to be gone in a week, and I'd add Keon Johnson to that list, too. Not because the organization doesn't like him—they do—but there just aren't minutes for him in the rotation with so many other guards. He's also a former first-round pick in just his second year in the league, meaning he has two more years after this one on a cheap rookie contract, and has had nice moments when he's gotten on the floor, so other teams might look at him as someone with upside they could take a flier on. 这三位你提到的球员『Hart、Nurkic、Winslow』确实是最有可能在一周後离开的球员， 且我还会加上Keon Johnson到这个名单内，不是因为拓荒者不喜欢Keon，正因为喜欢， 但目前球队有太多的後卫，导致Keon没办法获得上场时间。他是首轮新秀且才打第二年， 且还有两年的便宜新秀合约，场上有很不错的高光表现，所以其他队伍有可能评估他还有 上升空间，并愿意赌他的潜力 I would also push back on there being that many "untouchable" players on the roster. I don't think anyone not named Damian Lillard is flat-out off limits in any kind of trade talks. The three you named, Simons, Grant and Sharpe, are not being shopped and are extremely unlikely to be moved, but I don't think they'd be non-starters in a truly franchise-altering deal, whatever that may be. The previous general manager refused to even listen to any trade offers involving C.J. McCollum for years; I don't get the sense that Cronin has that same non-negotiable stance on anyone outside of Lillard. 其实我对球团有这麽多的"不动产"球员持相反意见，我认为除了小李之外的其他人都有 商谈交易的空间，Simons、Grant和Sharpe确实没有放上货架，也不太可能会被交易， 但如果有能让球队质变的交易商谈，他们会是受欢迎的人选，不管那可能是什麽提案。 多年来，前总管一直拒绝听取任何关於CJ的报价，但我不认为克总对任何球员会有一样的 态度，除了小李。 -------------- 心得: 中锋Hart看起来应该是会交易了，他真的很容易让球迷印象深刻，不论是场上的表现， 还是推特的搞笑，Hart到任何一支球队应该都会让球迷喜爱，他真的很棒！ 拓荒者伤兵潮还没结束，Winslow都快回来了，结果最近换Nurkic进去躺，GP2也生病了， 天佑拓荒者，开季至今，球员名单14人没有完整过，伟灾灵气(叹) PS.如果内容有误，板友随时指正，感谢 --

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 61.230.64.25 (台湾) ※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/NBA/M.1675551625.A.C62.html 我改个白话用词 对的，主要都打3号，枪西打过死亡五小的时候有摆过C... 确实XD 开玩笑为主 不过枪西摆过 Keon就真的没办法了，只能祝福他QQ 没错，右下角领头羊，很大的因素是他太胖了加上放球手感很烂 https://i.imgur.com/6gqMnyk.jpg ※ 编辑: foolishbi (61.230.64.25 台湾), 02/05/2023 09:52:43