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标题[外絮]Mike Conley交易评级-爵士一跃至西冠争夺.
时间Sun Jun 23 00:22:41 2019
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Mike Conley trade grades: Jazz jump into Western Conference contention with
perfect move; Grizzlies in full-on rebuild mode
Mike Conley 交易评级:爵士一跃至西冠争夺行列、灰熊全力开启重建模式。
With the Golden State Warriors' defeat in the NBA Finals at the hands of the
Toronto Raptors, in large part d
ue to major injuries to Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson, their dynasty has
been toppled. And with Durant out for next season, and Thompson set to miss a
majority of it, the Western Conference is once again wide open.
多伦多暴龙队在NBA总决赛场上击倒勇士--有很大的程度上是因为KD和KT的倒下,
他们的王朝毁於一旦,并且随着KD下整季的缺席、KT预计也缺席大半个赛季,西区的
王座再一次向其他球队发出挑战信。
Sensing their opportunity to finally break through in the West, the Utah Jazz
became the latest team to bolster their roster on Wednesday, swinging a trade
for veteran point guard Mike Conley. In exchange, the Jazz sent Grayson
Allen, Kyle Korver, Jae Crowder and two first-round picks to the Memphis
Grizzlies.
嗅到有机会冲出西区的犹他爵士,於星期三加强了球队的阵容,把Mike Conley,一名久
经沙场的控球後卫给交易过来。作为交换,爵士把Grayson Allen, Kyle Korver, Jae
Crowder 和两支第一轮选秀签送至灰熊。
There is still plenty of action to come both in the draft and in free agency,
but at least for now, SportsLine's projections have the move vaulting the
Jazz from the No. 7 seed in the West to the No. 2 seed, and increasing their
chances of winning the conference by over 10 percent. This deal may not be a
blockbuster in terms of starpower, but it could be more impactful than most
moves that go down this summer.
在自由市场与选秀间依然会有许多交易事件发生,但是以目前来说,SportsLine's
预测下个球季爵士的排名将从西区第七升至西区第二,也提升了超过10%赢得西区冠军的机
率。就星度而言,这笔交易或许非重磅交易,但跟多数暑期交易来比已具有相当程度之影
响力。
Here are the trade grades for each team.
下述为两队之交易评级
Jazz receive: Mike Conley
Grizzlies receive: Jae Crowder,Kyle Korver,Grayson Allen,Two first-round
picks, including No. 23 overall in 2019
爵士获得:Mike Conley
灰熊获得Jae Crowder, Kyle Korver, Grayson Allen, 两支第一轮选秀权签—其中一支
为2019年的23顺位签。
Utah trade grade: A
犹他爵士交易评价:A
The Jazz have been quite successful in the regular season recently, winning
at least 48 games in each of the past three seasons. They haven't been able
to translate that success into the playoffs, however, where it quickly
becomes clear that they're overmatched against the elite teams.
近几个季赛爵士表现地相当成功,过去三季每季都至少赢得48场比赛。然而,他们没有把
常规赛的成功延续至季後赛,季後赛验证了他们不足以对抗菁英球队。
But heading into next season, the two teams that have knocked them out in
each of the past three postseasons, the Warriors and Houston Rockets, are in
disarray. Meanwhile, the only other team to emerge as a contender, the Los
Angeles Lakers, have just three meaningful players on their roster (LeBron
James, Anthony Davis and Kyle Kuzma), and plenty of work to do to build out a
supporting cast.
但是进入到下个赛季,曾经在季後赛击败过爵士的勇士与火箭都已陷入一团糟。同时间,
唯一另一只看起来要崛起的球队湖人,还有一段补强之路要走,因为队上只有三名有意义
的球员(LBJ, AD, Kuzma)。
While there's still plenty of change to come this summer, the West looks wide
open, and the Jazz were in as good of a position as anyone to jump into
contention with one big move, and that's exactly what they've done by dealing
for Conley.
虽然这暑假仍会有大量的变化发生,但在西区人人有机会,爵士与任何想透过交易来成为
头衔竞争者的球队一样,下出Conley的这步棋使他们能处在争夺头衔之位置上。
The veteran point guard will slide right into the team's starting lineup,
where he's not only an upgrade over Ricky Rubio, but a better fit. A strong
defender, he'll help maintain, and possibly even boost one of the best units
on that side of the ball, while also improving their offense in a big way. So
much of the Jazz's struggles in the playoffs have revolved around not being
able to find enough scoring, and Conley will be a big help in rectifying that
problem.
这名资深的控球後卫会直接作为先发上场,他不只是Ricky Rubio的进化版,而且也更加
适合球队。身为一位强大的防守者,他将协助维持甚至加强团队的防守,同时也能提供大
量的进攻火力。因此爵士在季後赛进攻端总是找不到足够的火力问题,在Conley的到来後
将改善许多。
Conley is another player who can create his own shot, scoring over 60 percent
of his field goals unassisted last season, which is vital for a Jazz team
short on shot creators. In addition, he'll be a much bigger threat playing
off the ball than Rubio was. Though not an elite shooter, he's made 37.5
percent of his 3-point attempts for his career, and shot just under 40
percent on catch-and-shoot 3s last season. Opposing defenses won't be able to
ignore Conley around the perimeter and clog the paint to the extent that they
could when Rubio was on the floor. That alone will make life much easier for
the Jazz on offense.
在上一季,Conley是个能够自己创造空间、自己运球投进超过60%命中数的球员,这对爵
士来说补上这位运球投篮手是至关重要的。除此之外,他在无球进攻上比Rubio还更具有
威胁性。尽管他不是个菁英射手,但他生涯仍能在三分线上保持37.5%的命中率、且在上
季三分球C&S也拥有微低於40%的命中率。防守人员不能轻忽在外线的Conley、将防守内缩
至禁区,因为Conley不是Rubio。单单如此就足以让爵士的进攻端松了一大口气。
Plus, the best part of the deal for the Jazz is they didn't have to give up
much to get him. Allen doesn't appear to be any sort of high-end prospe
ct,
Korver is nearing the end of his career and Crowder is a replaceable wing.
Plus, if things work out the way they hope, those draft picks will be late in
the first round.
还有最棒的事情是爵士并没有交出太多筹码就取得Conley。Allen前景不被看好、Korver
已届退休之龄还有Crowder是个可取代的摇摆人。至於第一轮选秀签,若接下来一切顺利
,那麽那支签也只不过是支第一轮後段的签。
The window to getting out of the West is as open as it's going to be for the
next few seasons, and credit to the Jazz for trying to go for it.
在接下来几个赛季,爵士凭藉自身的努力,冲出西区的那扇门已经敞开。
Memphis trade grade: C
曼菲斯灰熊交易评级:C
As a small-market franchise, the Grizzlies made the decision to hold on to
their longtime stars, Marc Gasol and Mike Conley, for as long as possible to
try and stay competitive. That was a reasonable decision, and though things
fell apart the last few seasons, they had as good of a run as they could have
expected over the past decade or so.
身为小市场球队,灰熊曾为了保持竞争力,决定长期留下Marc Gasol跟 Mike Conley 这
两位早期就待在球队的球星。这是一个合理的决定,虽说在前几季球队就已分崩离析,但
过去的十几年内他们也曾打得如他们预期般那样的好。
The consequence for holding onto Gasol and Conley for that long was that when
they finally decided to trade them, their value had diminished to the point
that they could no longer command any sort of major return. We saw that with
the Gasol deal to the Toronto Raptors, and we're seeing it again with the
Conley trade.
而长期留下Gasol与Conley的後果导致当球团下定决心要交易他们时,他们的价值已早无
法换得任何高价值的回报。我们在灰熊与多伦多暴龙队的交易上可观察出此情形,现在我
们又一次能在Conley的交易案上看出此况。
This isn't a disaster or anything; the Grizzlies didn't get swindled, this is
just a reflection of where Conley's value is at now. He's soon to be 32, on a
huge contract and recently missed nearly an entire season due to injury. So,
in return for him they got one middling prospect, some salary filler and a
few late first-round picks. They probably weren't going to be able to do any
better than that at this point.
这不是灾难还什麽的,灰熊也不是被敲诈,这只是反映了现在Conley价值而已。他即将就
要迈入32岁且伴随着钜额的合约,最近也曾因伤缺席大半个赛季。因此,送出Conley後,
他们得到了一位中等潜力的球员、一些凑薪资空间的球员与少许签。在现阶段,这恐怕是
他们能够做出最好的交易了。
Allen is worth a look, but he's about to be 24 and didn't look all that great
in his rookie season. If they aren't able to flip Korver for some additional
draft assets, they may just buy him out. Crowder is a hard worker and will be
a good veteran to have around, and they may be able to flip him at some point
to a contender looking to bolster their team ahead of the playoffs. And as a
rebuilding team, getting additional first-round picks is never a bad thing.
Allen 值得一试,不过他将要24岁了而且於新秀赛季他的表现看起来不佳。如果球团无法
把Korver换成其他支签,那麽他也许会被买断。Crowder是位认真的球员,拥有这样的资
深球员也还不错,也有可能被交易至一些需要补强的季後赛球队。对於重建中的灰熊,拥
有越多的第一轮选秀签总不是什麽坏事。
With Conley gone, the Grizzlies are in full-on rebuild mode, and are expected
to take Ja Morant to replace him as the team's point guard of the future. In
Morant and Jaren Jackson Jr., their first-round pick from last season, the
Grizzlies look like they might have the first components of a bright future.
Still, there's a long road and plenty of hard work in front of them before
they reach the heights that Conley and Co. took the Grizzlies.
随着Conley的离去,灰熊进入了完全重建状态,也预期在今年的选秀大会上选下Ja
Morant以取代Conley成为未来的先发控球後卫。拥有Morant与Jaren Jackson Jr.(灰熊上
一季所选的第一轮新秀),灰熊看起来已经拥有了踏上光明未来的第一块拼图。不过,要
达到Conley和Gasol的高度前,依然有漫长的重建路与重建工作仍在前方等着他们。
心得:快速翻了一下灰熊的历史,不禁为现在的状况感到难过但充满期待。
(第一次翻译外电,还请大家多多指教。)
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1F:→ Despairile : 没办法 签了怕爽死 06/23 00:24
2F:推 a72242001 : 爵士不能捧 06/23 00:24
3F:推 ChenWay : 还有大V啊,在灰熊数据很不错 06/23 00:25
4F:推 jack19931993: 一个Conley就争冠行列 也太乐观 06/23 00:26
5F:→ Aggro : 居然有捧爵士的一天O,O 06/23 00:27
6F:推 lunkk : 通常这种专家大赞的交易 结果都... 06/23 00:27
7F:→ JazMaHoJo : 摸摸西爵地板就好 洗洗睡啦 06/23 00:27
8F:推 gt097231 : 这是在说康力>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>鲁比欧??? 06/23 00:27
9F:推 GaryCrawford: 我也觉得 多一个康利 就变成 西冠也太猛 06/23 00:27
10F:→ GaryCrawford: 我觉得顶多保障有季赛後可以打而已 06/23 00:28
11F:推 cidcheng : 以爵士要的打法来说Conley确实>>Rubio啊 06/23 00:28
12F:→ cidcheng : 只是要保障季後赛的话卢两年都有了 06/23 00:29
13F:推 nuturewind : 身为爵迷我其实很没信心,不知道这记者在外面喊烧什 06/23 00:29
14F:→ nuturewind : 麽 06/23 00:29
15F:推 Duncan7406 : 主要是阿爵几乎无痛升级 勇士又倒了主将 06/23 00:29
16F:→ cidcheng : 这两年卢学了不少无球 XD 06/23 00:30
17F:推 Fifteam : 控卫升级,米丘进化 06/23 00:30
18F:推 o0991758566 : 这样就能争冠? 想太多 06/23 00:30
19F:推 scott6065 : 我觉得伴随Mitchell再进步 西冠也不是不无可能 06/23 00:30
20F:→ Despairile : 认真说明年赛季是热火分裂後少见的人人有希望 06/23 00:30
21F:→ Despairile : 如果没办法把握老实说隔年就很难讲了 06/23 00:31
22F:推 penny1ai3 : 主要是无痛升级外加对手都摔了,不然进攻那段连两年 06/23 00:31
23F:→ penny1ai3 : 季後赛卢一球都蛮好的吧 06/23 00:31
24F:→ Despairile : 今年稍微算一下 爵士/快艇/金块/拓荒者都算是更有 06/23 00:31
25F:推 sammy5062 : Conley其实有枪西的味道,被低估的控卫 06/23 00:31
26F:→ Despairile : 机会往上冲 东区的话 活塞的BG伤养好/黄蜂看补强 06/23 00:31
27F:嘘 GaoYY : 争冠? 06/23 00:31
28F:→ penny1ai3 : 康利如果季後赛是卢一球升级 最少要5城命中 10助攻 06/23 00:31
29F:→ penny1ai3 : 20分才能算 06/23 00:32
30F:→ Despairile : 卷土重来的公鹿/76人 明年真的有种战国群起的味道 06/23 00:32
31F:推 GaryCrawford: 黄蜂怎麽补强 如果他要续留走路人 不是注定补强不了 06/23 00:33
32F:→ GaryCrawford: 吗? 06/23 00:33
33F:→ Despairile : 走路人不是说如果黄蜂愿意补强他可以接受降价吗? 06/23 00:33
34F:推 jack19931993: 勇士之外 双卫的顶点就是拓荒者 06/23 00:33
35F:→ jack19931993: 你觉得Mitchell+Conley 有比Lillard+CJ强?? 06/23 00:34
36F:→ Despairile : 不然还是等整个交易市场定下来再讨论也OK 06/23 00:34
37F:→ GaryCrawford: 就算降薪 那一点空间 有办法签什麽足以影响战局的球 06/23 00:34
38F:→ GaryCrawford: 员吗? 06/23 00:34
39F:→ jack19931993: 这样就西冠不无可能? 06/23 00:34
40F:→ nimaj : Conley也满容易受伤的 Rubio也续留会比较好 06/23 00:35
41F:推 yoyodjy : 如果米邱能够再成长 爵士明年的确大有可为 只输湖人 06/23 00:35
42F:→ yoyodjy : 而已 06/23 00:35
43F:推 seemoon2000 : 康利主要是没明显弱点 不像一球没有得分能力 06/23 00:35
44F:嘘 peter4503 : 不要舒服我爵啊啊啊啊啊 06/23 00:35
45F:推 sammy5062 : 米丘+康利 防守 大赢拓荒双枪吧 06/23 00:35
46F:→ seemoon2000 : 没得分能力会加重米丘被防守的压力 06/23 00:35
47F:推 live147222 : 西区感觉就很多二轮以上冠军未满的队伍 06/23 00:35
48F:→ o0991758566 : 爵士的侧翼太弱了 根本没办法对抗侧翼强大的队伍 06/23 00:35
49F:推 nuturewind : 算大西北崛起怎麽也不该先点名我们啊..好歹去年展现 06/23 00:35
50F:→ nuturewind : 竞争力的阿拓金块,几乎都有可能保留了原班人马,今 06/23 00:35
51F:→ nuturewind : 年还有湖人耶 06/23 00:35
52F:→ ammon : 这篇的来源是CBSSports, 应该要提一下比较好 06/23 00:36
53F:推 DK47 : 拓荒者爵士今年才差几场 Rubio升级成康利你觉得没 06/23 00:36
54F:→ DK47 : 机会赢? 06/23 00:36
55F:推 MoDoHiYaKu : 大胆预测今年西决拓vs金 06/23 00:36
56F:→ nimaj : 可爱 => 专业拆团手 XD 06/23 00:36
57F:→ nuturewind : 而且我们侧翼一直没有真正优质先发级的,阿北带二阵 06/23 00:37
58F:→ nuturewind : 很强,但先发对到不少特定三号位都很吃鳖 06/23 00:37
59F:嘘 anarky : 请不要乱舒服我爵 ! 06/23 00:37
60F:→ jyekid : 连暴龙都拆了 比魔术还厉害 06/23 00:37
61F:→ jyekid : 如果他真的走人的话啦 呵呵 06/23 00:37
62F:→ anarky : don't comfortable Jazz 06/23 00:37
63F:推 penny1ai3 : 继续关键时刻让肥沃斯发呆 换成魔术都会输 06/23 00:37
64F:推 o0991758566 : 近年能走远的队伍 多半有明星等级的小前锋 06/23 00:37
65F:推 sammy5062 : LBJ只会更老而已,湖人没补第三巨,能健康撑到季後 06/23 00:37
66F:→ sammy5062 : 赛? 06/23 00:37
67F:→ GaryCrawford: 我觉得要看自由市场开启後才能大概知道 明年走向 06/23 00:38
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68F:推 jack19931993: 防守大赢拓荒双枪? 把天空贝加进去还合理一点 06/23 00:38
69F:推 Rothur : 过往爵士都是不被看好然後打脸专家.. 06/23 00:38
70F:→ Rothur : 现在被专家看好 06/23 00:38
71F:→ penny1ai3 : 看外电说康利解放肥沃斯 06/23 00:38
72F:→ GaryCrawford: 别忘了我牛 也还没开始补强 06/23 00:38
73F:→ o0991758566 : 防守肯定比拓荒者双枪强 但火力肯定也输阿 06/23 00:39
74F:→ penny1ai3 : 真的像解放他一球早就解了 问题不在搭档上 06/23 00:39
75F:→ jack19931993: 这篇讲的是夺冠行列 要打脸还真的要很乐观才行 06/23 00:39
76F:推 sammy5062 : 康利防守大赢拓荒双枪任一只 06/23 00:39
77F:→ GaryCrawford: 不过刚刚看一个新闻 拖把跟爵士互相有意 06/23 00:39
78F:→ GaryCrawford: 问题是爵士没薪资空间签他 06/23 00:40
79F:→ cayalst : 米邱打球不够聪明 看conley能不能教他点东西 06/23 00:40
80F:推 FAYeeeeeeee : 夺冠太捧 夺西冠我都觉得很捧了 06/23 00:40
81F:推 nuturewind : 如果再补一只自主得分够稳的三号,才会更期待些 06/23 00:40
82F:推 dusted : 这两只防守大赢拓荒双枪有什麽疑问吗? 06/23 00:40
83F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 金块去年爵士横扫算赢好了 勇士也掉 06/23 00:41
84F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 火箭拓荒马刺雷霆还是最多五五开 06/23 00:42
85F:→ FAYeeeeeeee : 何况还有两队可能补大咖的LA球队 06/23 00:42
86F:推 mingxian : Conley已经31岁了,鹰勾也差不多,爵士就赌这两三年 06/23 00:43
87F:→ mingxian : 了吧 06/23 00:43
88F:推 teren : 康利不错但爵士还是要靠米邱继续进化到明星水准才行 06/23 00:43
89F:推 ctw01 : 太乐观了吧...上季季前预测也把爵士说得很爽 06/23 00:43
90F:→ mingxian : Conley开季就32了 06/23 00:44
91F:→ jim12441 : 也太舒服了吧 06/23 00:44
92F:推 aikensh : 排毒成功 06/23 00:44
93F:推 jyekid : 的确该赌一张30岁以内的合约搭配米邱菜鸟价 06/23 00:47
94F:→ jyekid : 但很少人会想去盐湖城 06/23 00:47
95F:推 birdruei : 侧翼不是还有鹰勾吗,狗贝补防也不错还行吧 06/23 00:49
96F:推 samsam80821 : 康力跟HILL有类似的地方 但更强 所以爵士绝对适合他 06/23 00:49
97F:推 kingroy : 补侧翼太难了 JC投篮也是不稳 06/23 00:50
98F:推 Goldens : 如果今年跟火箭打第一轮 是健康正常发挥的Conley 06/23 00:54
99F:→ Goldens : 火箭应该还是能赢 但被翻盘的机会也很大 06/23 00:54
100F:推 tomoti : 补了Conley双卫还是干不赢阿拓啦,何况小李强多了... 06/23 00:54
101F:推 money990160 : Conley单凭防守就比Lillard强多了 06/23 00:59
102F:推 live1002 : 今年第一轮FAVORS多上几分钟搞不好就赢了拉... 06/23 01:03
103F:推 kingroy : 鹰勾跟欧尼尔两个现在不够用,狗贝也是补防很会但换 06/23 01:04
104F:→ kingroy : 防不算万能的 06/23 01:04
105F:→ kingroy : 爵士还要补到一只有活动力能换防和有外线的四号才算 06/23 01:05
106F:→ kingroy : 完整一点 06/23 01:05
107F:→ kingroy : Harris看来是签不到,要是能来就好了 06/23 01:07
108F:→ kingroy : 鹰勾老实说体能下滑好像对他来说没影响,他根本是爵 06/23 01:08
109F:→ kingroy : 士版的KA 06/23 01:08
110F:推 jimmyjou2006: 康利没很年轻 所以每到很看好 但还是严重被低估 06/23 01:10
111F:→ jimmyjou2006: 灰熊真的衰 被低估的惨 06/23 01:10
112F:推 CHUNGHUA : 你可以问看看拓迷怕不怕Conley 应该每个都跟你说怕 06/23 01:15
113F:推 Lacus0827 : 这年头没强侧翼很难夺冠,爵士侧翼还是最弱的地方 06/23 01:19
114F:推 BlGP : 借转西爵地板版 06/23 01:19
※ BlGP:转录至看板 UTAH-JAZZ 06/23 01:20
115F:→ autechre : 邪教城大胜利 能走多远是很难讲 但起码多finisher 06/23 01:21
116F:推 Lacus0827 : 鲁比欧换成康利战力有提升,但我觉得要让爵士更上 06/23 01:21
117F:→ Lacus0827 : 一层楼米丘得进化 06/23 01:21
118F:推 hcrcool : 爵爵希望锋线补强来一下 06/23 01:23
119F:推 KISSFORMISS : 身为拓迷 我只能说防守Conley真的屌虐.... 06/23 01:23
120F:推 TexasFlood : 西冠争夺代表有机会过二轮,也不是不可能吧 06/23 01:24
121F:→ omage : 没有到无痛升级吧,这交易牺牲掉的就是薪资空间 06/23 01:25
122F:推 Parazicecum : 康利真的才是在PTT最被低估的球员 现在连>>>Rubio都 06/23 01:28
123F:→ Parazicecum : 要被加个问号了 爵士本来就季後赛队伍 换来Conley在 06/23 01:28
124F:→ Parazicecum : PTT竟然只能获得「保底季後赛」的评价... 06/23 01:28
125F:推 chenborruey : 乐观一点,应该至少有2轮吧 06/23 01:36
126F:→ chenborruey : 雷丘还要再进化才行 06/23 01:37
127F:推 o0991758566 : 爵士本来就一定有季後赛 甚至二轮都满稳的 06/23 01:38
128F:→ o0991758566 : 但要再往上 有点难 能进西冠就是极限了吧 06/23 01:39
129F:推 Lacus0827 : 鲁比欧在就打过二轮了,问题出在米丘 06/23 01:42
130F:推 chenborruey : 好怀念啊 阿爵的西冠 06/23 01:43
131F:→ chenborruey : 我记得上次是booo在的时候 06/23 01:44
132F:推 sam86716 : 不要舒服我爵 06/23 01:48
133F:嘘 happyreach : 不必太酸米丘 AB被交易走换KK Exum受伤 Favors没有 06/23 01:50
134F:→ happyreach : 被教练看重低位单打 全队往往只有米丘在持球进攻 06/23 01:50
135F:→ happyreach : 西区季後赛球队只有他这麽累这麽惨 Conley来不能 06/23 01:50
136F:→ happyreach : 说爵士会变多强 但是起码分担米丘这位年轻人的进攻 06/23 01:50
137F:→ happyreach : 重担是一定的 06/23 01:50
138F:推 TsaiTao : 是蝶龙的生涯巅峰 06/23 01:51
139F:推 idlewolf : 这季真的是近年来最有机会的了 对手每队都有些问题 06/23 02:00
140F:嘘 loved481 : 爵士争冠?队上有明星吗 06/23 02:01
141F:推 harrybbs : 60%命中率 也太猛 06/23 02:11
142F:→ NTUACCT : 60%为占整体进球命中数的比率喔 06/23 02:12
144F:推 fatotaku : 从rubio升级成康利,有无照骑士升级成邦古的感觉XD 06/23 02:19
145F:推 ppnow : 捧一下可以啊,爵士低迷好久了 06/23 02:21
146F:推 rhapsodick : 我觉得近期最强就是星海哥+狗贝+ISO Joe那年欸 06/23 02:34
147F:→ rhapsodick : 绿叶还有屌爷 Hood Hill 鹰狗 06/23 02:34
148F:→ rhapsodick : 但那年还是被KD勇给虐QQ 06/23 02:35
149F:推 solidworker : 康利不强的话 灰熊一五一六年就不会跟勇士站那麽多 06/23 02:42
150F:→ solidworker : 场了 06/23 02:42
151F:嘘 zaq851017 : 哇操一个B咖也能吹馁 06/23 02:47
152F:推 skery3188 : 米丘+康利 後场双枪 06/23 02:56
153F:→ chi12345678 : 去年已经舒服过了.... 06/23 02:57
154F:→ abop65913 : 爵士没这麽好 06/23 03:02
155F:推 YqYq5566 : 请问球够吗?雷丘需要球权,又常常三场打铁一场,超 06/23 03:12
156F:→ YqYq5566 : 级铁那种,为何有机会夺冠??? 06/23 03:12
157F:推 sai511477 : 这样要冲击西冠? 06/23 03:13
158F:→ CycleEnergy : XDDDDDDDD好 让我们期待明年这时候 希望成真 06/23 03:15
159F:推 hcl00 : Conley打勇士那年很惨耶… 那年主要是Tony Allen外 06/23 03:20
160F:→ hcl00 : 围守得太好 後面被放投+受伤灰熊就下去了 06/23 03:20
161F:推 b0023098 : 爵士冲击 西冠==? 06/23 03:26
162F:推 jimhappy8774: 太早 favoers这白痴杀手都不用 完全边缘 不看好爵 06/23 03:27
163F:→ jimhappy8774: 士 06/23 03:27
164F:→ b0023098 : 没明星小前锋还是QQ 06/23 03:27
165F:推 lonelysam : 无痛升级?? 06/23 03:54
166F:推 sasewill : 升级是有但侧翼还是太弱 现在这样最远打进西冠吧 06/23 04:11
167F:推 leokoyo : 灰熊不只C吧 我认为B 一个双赢 06/23 04:24
168F:嘘 noahfly : 别再舒服了 06/23 06:56
169F:推 hsiehhsing : 雷米经过撞墙期了,今年应该会暴走,小比8888,天 06/23 07:23
170F:→ hsiehhsing : 不在站在你这 06/23 07:23
171F:推 boy50292 : 西冠?先问问湖人好暴 06/23 08:01
172F:嘘 Costco5566 : = =? 06/23 08:09
173F:推 turnpoint : 明年爵士的阵容>勇士啊,真的拿到西冠甚至总冠也不 06/23 08:19
174F:→ turnpoint : 是不可能 06/23 08:19
175F:→ stocktonty : 康利有那麽强那今年灰熊需要搞到连马甲都出清? 06/23 08:30
176F:推 APC : 推翻译 06/23 08:47
177F:→ APC : 不过看不太懂王座会发信? 06/23 08:47
178F:推 hau7341 : 不觉得 06/23 08:48
179F:嘘 k7202001 : 把我大金块放到哪 06/23 08:51
180F:推 kuloda : 爵士很强耶,Conley可以解放进攻端很多东西 06/23 08:52
181F:→ kuloda : Conley当然不是超级明星,但是刚好补爵士 06/23 08:53
182F:→ kuloda : Conley Michell Ingles 这样的中後场真的满棒的 06/23 08:54
183F:嘘 qwe80434 : 啊爵掰 06/23 08:55
184F:→ JerrySloan : Conley的伤全部好了吗? 06/23 09:25
185F:推 smalltalker : 柯利! 06/23 09:51
186F:→ bnlmzong : 西冠有点难吧 06/23 10:02
187F:嘘 hijodedios36: 别舒服我爵 06/23 10:09
188F:嘘 b69 : 灰熊就签了一个薪水小伦 在那边带赛 06/23 10:14
189F:→ jenchieh5 : 康利光是进攻力 就能减少雷丘在那边乱自干的时间 06/23 10:42
190F:推 kaede0711 : 康利的确以功能性来说>>卢比欧,不过要冲出西区感觉 06/23 10:58
191F:→ kaede0711 : 不太够 06/23 10:58
192F:推 Demonic1013 : 康利>>卢比欧我没意见,但加上尻佛,我爵小亏 06/23 11:54
193F:推 lpmybig : 太早 06/23 12:05
194F:推 nostar : 康利帮忙吸怪 米丘准备解放 06/23 13:14
195F:推 rkbey : 就看米丘会不会继续败球,狗贝会不会继续奶油 06/23 13:21
196F:推 rkbey : 狒狒的使用时间可能是爵爵崛起的契机 06/23 13:23
197F:推 jeter8695 : 一个帕森斯直接让灰熊重建 06/23 13:56
198F:推 xoyster : 推翻译 06/23 18:53
199F:嘘 oncee : 看好下一季爵士连季後赛都没有的打 06/23 20:00
200F:嘘 wed3qla : 雷丘如果没进化这交易搔痒而已 06/24 00:19
201F:推 birdskingla : 看到Conley 就想到他的大学搭档选秀状元QQ 06/24 10:19