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以下是#1H2auwUL#1H2eNlSy 原文的最後一部分... 是紧接着(2)开始翻译的 http://tinyurl.com/bcd58bf (同一个连结) There are times when White seems like a brilliant ninth-grader who just wrote a research paper on mental illness and can't stop talking about it. He's arrogant, and perhaps not as wise as he believes himself to be. But sometimes he offers genuine insight into the mediated discomfort of modernity, such as when we discuss Twitter.7 White is the type of celebrity who likes to retweet messages that are sent to him directly. This makes (a little) sense when the content of the tweet is positive and uplifting. But it comes across as unlikable when he retweets messages that are negative and crazy (because it makes it seem like the attention is its own reward). I ask him why he does this. He gives two reasons. The first is banal and abstract (something about "neutralizing negativity with positivity"). But his second reason is worth considering: He views social media as "the greatest census of our era." And the census data he's collecting is really, really dark. 有时候White看起来像是一个刚发表了一篇关於精神病论文的聪明高三生, 并喋喋不休的想跟你分享内容...他有点骄傲自大,而且大概不像他自以为的那麽聪明. 不过有时候他会对现代生活为人类所带来的不适提供一些精辟的见解... 例如Twitter吧. White是那种喜欢把发给他的讯息转贴出去的名人. 当这个讯息本身是正面或鼓舞人心时,这样做似乎很正常... 但是负面甚至有些疯狂的讯息他也要转贴就不怎麽让人喜欢...(彷佛譁众取宠才是目的) 我问他为什麽要这样(转贴负面讯息)做. 他的第一个理由听起来很普通而且有点抽象 (大概是什麽"用正面力量中和负面力量之类的") 不过第二个或许值得一看: 他认为社群媒体正是现代最适合作为抽样调查的资料库... 而且他正在收集的资料数据非常非常黑暗...(?) "As much as we want to think that these are just people behind computer screens, those people are living next door to you," he says. "They are people behind computer screens in schools. In hospitals. Working in Washington, D.C. These are real people. How many times does this stuff have to happen before we admit something really disturbing is going on here? I think one person tweeting 'Fuck you, go kill yourself' is disturbing. But when you get into the hundreds of those tweets? The thousands of those tweets? I see a lot of people out there with really volatile mental disorders that are not getting help. Because I go to their own Twitter pages, and I can see they're not just sending those messages to me. They're sending them to a bunch of people. I mean, if you tweet at me five times in seven minutes because I'm not playing for a team you have no real connection to? That is not good. That suggests mental illness. And even if you say, 'But I love this team to death,' it means you've put too much investment into entertainment. It's probably not good for you." White: "仅管你可能试图把那些人当作"只不过是电脑萤幕後面的人" 但那些人其实根本就等於是你的邻居... 他们是在电脑萤幕後没错,但是他们在上学.在医院.在Washington, D.C.工作. 他们都是活生生的人啊. 类似这种事情要发生几次你才会承认这真的让人觉得很烦? 我觉得一个人对你tweet"干,你这人去死一死吧" 就已经很烦了. 那如果几百人对你发出这种讯息呢? 几千人呢??? 我看到这堆人其实都是状况不稳定的精神病患者...而且没有获得任何协助. 因为当我上他们的个人Twitter首页时,我发现他们并不只是传送这个讯息给我.. 事实上他们还转发给其他很多人 我的意思是说,如果你在七分钟之内连续发五次讯息给我的原因是 我不肯为了一个根本跟你八竿子打不着的球队打球????? 这一点也不正常,这代表你有精神病. 即便你说"那是因为我非常热爱这个球队,爱到要疯掉了" 那也代表你过度入戏了.对你不是什麽好事" Because White sees mental illness everywhere, his goal as an activist is the creation of free mental health clinics in every major urban area, modeled after the system currently used by Planned Parenthood. It's a valid idea, particularly if you accept White's insistence that pretty much everyone needs help. We talk about his cultural heroes, and he detects shades of mental illness in all of them: John Lennon, Frank Sinatra, Michael Jordan. "[Jordan] definitely had a mental illness," he argues. "He was obsessed. He was obsessed with being great. Now, is that bad? It would be, if everybody else wasn't already telling him that he was." His dedication to this cause is sincere; he tells me he's "literally willing to die" for human welfare. I don't doubt that he would jeopardize his career over this principle, and when he casually notes that basketball does not "define" who he is, it doesn't sound like clichéd posturing. This is a man who wants his cultural footprint to be deep. I ask how he felt when the Real Sports reporter (Bernie Goldberg, who is also a correspondent for Fox's The O'Reilly Factor) referred to him as either courageous or "insufferable." White's initial response was confusion. His real response was unflinching. 因为White似乎在每个地方都看到其他人有精神病的迹象, 他作为一个社会运动家的速球就是应该在主要的市区都要设立免费的 "精神健康诊所"...大概就类似Planned Parenthood(计画生育委员会?) 那样的系统吧. 这主意听起来似乎有道理,尤其如果你能接受他对於每个人多少都需要一些这方面的帮助 的想法.. 接着我们谈了有关於他心目中的文化英雄...不过他在他崇拜的英雄身上也可以 看到精神病的迹象: John Lennon(Beatles成员), Frank Sinatra(美国男歌手), 和......Micheal Jordan. "Jordan肯定有精神病." White表示,"他被自己是如此伟大的的念头纠缠住了. 那,这是件坏事吗?假如其他人没事先点醒他的话,那就是了." White是很诚挚的想对於这方面作出贡献---他说"理论上我愿意为人权而死". 我不怀疑在这原则之下他也可以牺牲他的篮球生涯. 当他无意间提到"篮球不能'定义'他自己是谁"的时候,这也不像是做作的陈腔滥调.. 他是想要在在文化上做出许多贡献. 我问他当Bernie Goldberg,一个Real Sports的记者形容他 "要嘛是大胆,要嘛是令人难以忍受的"的时候他的感觉是? 他一开始为这个问题感到困惑.不过他正式回答这问题时是很坚定的: "I think it's a very true statement. At the end of the day, we all stand on one side of a line, and it's always going to be opposed by somebody else," he says. And then he really goes to the rack. "I don't like to compare myself to other great people.8 But I'm sure Gandhi was insufferable to some people. Martin Luther King was insufferable. JFK was certainly insufferable. Galileo was insufferable. It's always tough to tolerate people who say the things that other people don't want to say." White:" 我认为这个描述很正确,在每天结束的时候,我们都站在一条线的某一边--- 一定会有人在另外一边反对你." 接着似乎讲到让他有点痛苦的部份了: "我实在不想把我和以下那些伟人相提并论,但... (注1) 我很确定Gandhi(甘地)对於某些人来说是难以忍受的... Martin Luther King (金恩牧师)也是... JFK(甘乃迪)也绝对是... Galileo(伽利略)也是.... 对於某些说出其他人不敢说的话的人,你总是无法轻易的忍受他们啊. " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. In the coming weeks, we shall all see where Royce White fits into that continuum, or if he fits there at all. 记者结语: 起先他们无视你,然後他们嘲笑你,然後他们开始攻击你,然後你就赢了--- 在接下来几周中,让我们拭目以待White到底可以和大家相处的多好... 或是他根本无法做到? 注1: I realize people who read this article will exclusively dwell on the segment of the quote that follows this particular sentence. But I want to remind people that he did start with, "I don't like to compare myself to other great people." Granted, phrases that start in that manner rarely reflect positively on the speaker. But he was talking to a reporter who was asking him about his own self-perception, and — though I did not ask him to compare himself to anyone — I certainly did not dissuade him from doing so. 我相信读到这一段的人一定会对以下这段(提到伟人相比)话耿耿於怀. 不过在提醒各位一次: 他毕竟是先说了"我实在不想把我跟这些伟人相提并论" ...虽然说这种起手式实在很难让你对说这段话的人有什麽良好印象, 但他毕竟是在回答一个正在试图了解他的观念的记者问题... 而且虽然我没有意图请他和任何人做比较---我当然也没有阻止他这麽做. --



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1F:推 joumay :依照本人经验 起手式烂 论文通常都很逊 跳过吧..... 02/01 13:10
2F:→ spurs2120 :感谢翻译,对他越来越感兴趣了。 02/01 13:10
3F:推 stand1234 :感谢翻译,老实说看火箭及NBA怎麽处理他的案例将会很 02/01 13:12
4F:→ stand1234 :有趣,不知道其他运动有没有类似的情况 02/01 13:12
5F:推 RAYBO :他关注的事情太多 也太投注 以至於忽略了眼前最该关 02/01 13:16
6F:→ RAYBO :心的事~~ 02/01 13:17
7F:推 mywu :谢谢翻译 02/01 13:17
8F:推 doomster562 :看起来很像碎碎念 02/01 13:31
9F:推 OOpttcc :有点像来到了生涯规划版..... 02/01 14:15
10F:推 yeiloud :感觉就是个头痛人物... 02/01 14:22
11F:推 kimimskimi :我觉得他精神病的定义范围太广了 把正常的压力也算进 02/01 14:31
12F:推 kaichuan :感谢翻译! 02/01 14:47
13F:推 mywu :我觉得他认为人应该要没有压力的活着,但这不太可能, 02/01 14:50
14F:→ mywu :太理想化了..就像是说希望世界大同之类的 02/01 14:50
15F:→ BLABLA007 :提问人很会挖洞阿 引导对方走向... 02/01 15:28
16F:推 duncan6502 :感觉像是个理论派大师 书看很多 但也仅此而已 02/01 16:06
17F:→ duncan6502 :他自己也搞不懂 自己想干嘛吧 02/01 16:07
18F:推 duncan6502 :感觉像是个共产主义者 他想活在乌托邦里头 02/01 16:17
19F:→ duncan6502 :不过还是希望他能上场打球 想看台媒会怎麽报XD 02/01 16:19
20F:推 wusalt :Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooody Allen!!!!! 02/01 16:21
21F:推 DASHOCK :很像跳针......... 02/01 16:26
22F:推 jojobigoldtw: 02/01 16:48
23F:推 KeySabre :在他眼里只有机器人没精神病吧 02/01 16:49
24F:推 iswearxxx :借转 感谢:) 02/01 17:42
iswearxxx:转录至看板 Rockets 02/01 17:42
25F:推 ymcg :美国谢和弦 02/01 18:59
26F:嘘 blaukatze :就说他自定义精神病啊 然後什麽都可以是精神病 02/01 20:19
27F:推 goury :推!我们都站在一条线的某一边 一定有人在另外一边 02/02 00:15
28F:→ goury :完全不懂精神状态这种东西,还能嘘的那麽有力 XDDDDD 02/02 00:16







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